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	<description>Margaret Simons on Media</description>
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		<title>Comment on Caroline Overington Gives Some Hints on Rupert&#8217;s Plans (and tangles with Annabel Crabb) by shepherdmarilyn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/05/caroline-overington-gives-some-hints-on-ruperts-plans-and-tangles-with-annabel-crabb/comment-page-1/#comment-1945</link>
		<dc:creator>shepherdmarilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Caroline, when her book Kick Back came out she slagged off on John Pilger&#039;s writing and was forced to admit she had never read a word of it.

One always is a wee bit suspicious of people who behave this way I think.  I have read her work and Pilger&#039;s.  His wins in a canter for the very breadth, depth and honesty of his work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Caroline, when her book Kick Back came out she slagged off on John Pilger&#8217;s writing and was forced to admit she had never read a word of it.</p>
<p>One always is a wee bit suspicious of people who behave this way I think.  I have read her work and Pilger&#8217;s.  His wins in a canter for the very breadth, depth and honesty of his work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Caroline Overington Gives Some Hints on Rupert&#8217;s Plans (and tangles with Annabel Crabb) by What’s Murdoch’s ‘cool new toy’ for accessing media content? &#124; DAILYMAIL</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/05/caroline-overington-gives-some-hints-on-ruperts-plans-and-tangles-with-annabel-crabb/comment-page-1/#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>What’s Murdoch’s ‘cool new toy’ for accessing media content? &#124; DAILYMAIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Margaret Simons of the Content Makers, reports how Caroline Overington, senior writer and columnist with The Australian (part of Mudoch&amp;#82... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...] Margaret Simons of the Content Makers, reports how Caroline Overington, senior writer and columnist with The Australian (part of Mudoch&amp;#82&#8230; [...</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Conceptual Confusion and Journalistic Process &#8211; My Highlights and Lowlights of Media 140 by acannon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/06/conceptual-confusion-and-journalistic-process-my-highlights-and-lowlights-of-media-140/comment-page-1/#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator>acannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great quote from Papworth. And the generations after us may very well know precisely what their great-grandparents were doing at any particular hour on any particular day. But this assumes a few things:

a) that it still exists - digital archiving is tricky at best. Who amongst you really archives their emails properly, let alone their twitter feed? (Twitter doesn&#039;t store posts beyond about a month). If Facebook or any other platform goes belly-up, what will happen to all that content? Who will pay for the server space? (Leaving aside the possibility of apocalypic events destroying any digitally stored information or even &#039;civilisation as we know it&#039;).

b) that they can FIND this information amongst the vast, vast quantities of stuff we are creating.

c) that they can ACCESS this information. We&#039;ve already seen information lost even in 20 years of digital technology (floppy disks no longer accessible; documents prepared with no-longer-supported software etc). Who knows what the future will bring?

d) that they can still recreate the original context of the information. I&#039;ve saved direct messages from twitter, comments from Facebook etc that are sent to my inbox - invariably when I look through them later (even after a month) my response is &quot;Huh? What was that about?&quot; 

Sorry a bit off-topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great quote from Papworth. And the generations after us may very well know precisely what their great-grandparents were doing at any particular hour on any particular day. But this assumes a few things:</p>
<p>a) that it still exists &#8211; digital archiving is tricky at best. Who amongst you really archives their emails properly, let alone their twitter feed? (Twitter doesn&#8217;t store posts beyond about a month). If Facebook or any other platform goes belly-up, what will happen to all that content? Who will pay for the server space? (Leaving aside the possibility of apocalypic events destroying any digitally stored information or even &#8216;civilisation as we know it&#8217;).</p>
<p>b) that they can FIND this information amongst the vast, vast quantities of stuff we are creating.</p>
<p>c) that they can ACCESS this information. We&#8217;ve already seen information lost even in 20 years of digital technology (floppy disks no longer accessible; documents prepared with no-longer-supported software etc). Who knows what the future will bring?</p>
<p>d) that they can still recreate the original context of the information. I&#8217;ve saved direct messages from twitter, comments from Facebook etc that are sent to my inbox &#8211; invariably when I look through them later (even after a month) my response is &#8220;Huh? What was that about?&#8221; </p>
<p>Sorry a bit off-topic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So what&#8217;s the &#8220;cool new toy&#8221; by RICK68</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/06/so-whats-the-cool-new-toy/comment-page-1/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>RICK68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fall Of The American Empire:   Brought down by the enemy within!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fall Of The American Empire:   Brought down by the enemy within!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Excerpt of Overington by Thomas Paine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/06/excerpt-of-overington/comment-page-1/#comment-1941</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News Ltd is staggering around with a bad case of Rupe flu. Going nowhere but down, some of their &#039;journos&#039; exposed as people with little ability apart from having Liberal party views.

Bad management is what has happened to News Corp. Warren Buffet must shake his head at the sheer incompetence and blindness of News corp leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News Ltd is staggering around with a bad case of Rupe flu. Going nowhere but down, some of their &#8216;journos&#8217; exposed as people with little ability apart from having Liberal party views.</p>
<p>Bad management is what has happened to News Corp. Warren Buffet must shake his head at the sheer incompetence and blindness of News corp leadership.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Excerpt of Overington by Durutticolumn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/06/excerpt-of-overington/comment-page-1/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>Durutticolumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again I am puzzled about the weight being given to Overington&#039;s comments. Not sure she will be the last to know but she will be a  long way down the line. Rupe is obviously re-thinking this strategy after trying to drag all the other publishers into the hole he was digging and finding very few volunteers. Even Fairfax executives certainly not the sharpest tools in the shed knew it was a dud idea. Her comments on the ABC and News are just typical of the News Ltd army of  sycophants to which can now be added David Speirs. Anyone anyone caught his interveiw with the Sun King? AT least he wasm&#039;t wearing that ridiculous kevlar army helmet. 
 But Scott&#039;s views of world domination  deserved a big serve. It was laughable as someone said elsewhere on crikey. You have to have a dominant culture such as the US or the Brits or the Arab world  Even the French struggling with their francophone network aimed at competing with the BBC. Mark Scott loves the sound of his own voice  it is just that it rarely enunciates a clear well thought out strategy. He had years at fairfax to show he was a big thinker but spent the time carrying fred&#039;s bags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again I am puzzled about the weight being given to Overington&#8217;s comments. Not sure she will be the last to know but she will be a  long way down the line. Rupe is obviously re-thinking this strategy after trying to drag all the other publishers into the hole he was digging and finding very few volunteers. Even Fairfax executives certainly not the sharpest tools in the shed knew it was a dud idea. Her comments on the ABC and News are just typical of the News Ltd army of  sycophants to which can now be added David Speirs. Anyone anyone caught his interveiw with the Sun King? AT least he wasm&#8217;t wearing that ridiculous kevlar army helmet.<br />
 But Scott&#8217;s views of world domination  deserved a big serve. It was laughable as someone said elsewhere on crikey. You have to have a dominant culture such as the US or the Brits or the Arab world  Even the French struggling with their francophone network aimed at competing with the BBC. Mark Scott loves the sound of his own voice  it is just that it rarely enunciates a clear well thought out strategy. He had years at fairfax to show he was a big thinker but spent the time carrying fred&#8217;s bags.</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Bergin&#8217;s Media 140 Speech by Tweets that mention John Bergin’s Media 140 Speech – The Content Makers -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention John Bergin’s Media 140 Speech – The Content Makers -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by John Bergin, Dave Earley. Dave Earley said: RT @theburgerman: For those of you who have requested it - a full transcript of my #media140 speech is available here: http://bit.ly/3A1jA3 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by John Bergin, Dave Earley. Dave Earley said: RT @theburgerman: For those of you who have requested it &#8211; a full transcript of my #media140 speech is available here: <a href="http://bit.ly/3A1jA3" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3A1jA3</a> [...</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on So what&#8217;s the &#8220;cool new toy&#8221; by Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/06/so-whats-the-cool-new-toy/comment-page-1/#comment-1938</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear. Are we going to go back to that 1920s attempt to sell radios that only tuned to one radio station? That turned out well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. Are we going to go back to that 1920s attempt to sell radios that only tuned to one radio station? That turned out well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Excerpt of Overington by RICK68</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICK68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MURDOCH:  Andrew Bolt&#039;s employer, hence his bias reporting on this former Australian.For the record, Rupert sold his citizenship for the Yankee dollar,and for his business requirements overthere. Regards Richard Ryan to the imposters out there, who are too scared to use their real names. YEAH, I am speaking to you stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MURDOCH:  Andrew Bolt&#8217;s employer, hence his bias reporting on this former Australian.For the record, Rupert sold his citizenship for the Yankee dollar,and for his business requirements overthere. Regards Richard Ryan to the imposters out there, who are too scared to use their real names. YEAH, I am speaking to you stupid!</p>
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		<title>Comment on So what&#8217;s the &#8220;cool new toy&#8221; by RICK68</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2009/11/06/so-whats-the-cool-new-toy/comment-page-1/#comment-1932</link>
		<dc:creator>RICK68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupert Murdoch told us not long ago not to become anti-American, this is a bit rich coming from this media baron, who renounced his citizenship for the Yankee dollar. But he does have a lovely Yankee twang and in such a short time. Andrew Bolt told us some time ago on Insiders,  that Murdoch was a great Australian. Murdoch and Bolt for the record are rabid supporters of the Iraq war, Bolt loves telling his bloggers that the war is won and over in Iraq.Regards Richard Ryan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupert Murdoch told us not long ago not to become anti-American, this is a bit rich coming from this media baron, who renounced his citizenship for the Yankee dollar. But he does have a lovely Yankee twang and in such a short time. Andrew Bolt told us some time ago on Insiders,  that Murdoch was a great Australian. Murdoch and Bolt for the record are rabid supporters of the Iraq war, Bolt loves telling his bloggers that the war is won and over in Iraq.Regards Richard Ryan.</p>
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