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	<title>Comments on: Tribal warfare, anthropology, journalism and lies</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Gosford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Gosford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one TC - I&#039;ve been following this via the Anthro-L webgroup and it is a fascinating glimpse into the world of pop-anthropology and a good illustration that even well-regarded polymaths may get it wrong sometimes. Maybe our own Tim Flannery should watch his back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one TC &#8211; I&#8217;ve been following this via the Anthro-L webgroup and it is a fascinating glimpse into the world of pop-anthropology and a good illustration that even well-regarded polymaths may get it wrong sometimes. Maybe our own Tim Flannery should watch his back?</p>
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		<title>By: RhondaRShearer</title>
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		<dc:creator>RhondaRShearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your post with interest as publisher of StinkyJournalism.org and one of the authors of the 40,000 plus word report referred to above.

To clarify, we have only published a 10,000 word excerpt of the larger report so far. 
See http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/latest-journalism-news-updates-149.php. The larger report is forthcoming.

With all due respect to the anthropologist quoted by Science, Pauline Wiessner, I would never &quot;shoot from the hip&quot; and say-- without knowing specifics (the man, circumstances, in other words, the facts) and make a definite conclusion and general statement --“I could have told him immediately that it was a tall tale, an embellished story. I hear lots of them but don’t publish them because they are not true.”

Polly works with a known type of unemployed young man in PNG--but this is not Daniel Wemp. He is now in his forties, and was a high functioning administrative assistant and driver for World Wildlife Fund in 2001-2002 when Diamond spoke to him and later when Diamond spoke to him for last time (May 2006), he was a oil field technician at Oil Search Ltd. 

Polly&#039;s statement is irresponsible and foolish. We have lots of gang murders in the US. What Polly said was equal to saying, &quot;I study young men in Harlem that brag about killings ...therefore I could have told you, in advance of any resaerch or specific knowledge and just by hearing the story (great method) that that XYZ man was exaggerating. 

I spoke to an AU scientist who also worked with Wemp for a couple of months during the same time period. He said that Wemp was the best assistant he ever had, and that Daniel gave no reason (told no stories) that would make the scientist not trust or believe him. Now that is factual information and direct testimony--not reckless guessing that--again for a second round--defames an innocent man. 

Daniel told Diamond stories and Diamond, just like a fiction writer selected and twisted facts to suit an exciting story--just like &quot;the fact&quot; that Henep Isum was in a wheelchair paralyzed for 11 years from an arrow in the spine shot by assailants that Daniel hired. We found Isum. As the photos prove, it&#039;s all fiction--Isum is hale and hearty, walking around with no wheelchair in sight! 

Ask yourself: if Daniel knew, as Diamond adamantly claims, that he was telling stories that would be made public and yet also secretly knew were untrue--why would Daniel use real names when he knew people would find out and also knew this would put his life in danger? He simply wouldn&#039;t. 

The more reasonable scenario is that Diamond thought no one would check his facts--that&#039;s why he did literally zero fact checking himself. What adult--let alone award winning scientist-- takes what their driver says and just publishes it without checking facts? A fiction writer does not fact check, of course--but a scientist does. So who is the liar? Who is the teller of fiction? Who was selling $25,000 lectures using Daniel Wemp&#039;s names and stories before getting caught and told to cease. 

I believe the facts speak for themselves. However, please read our report before you judge--I don&#039;t want you to be like Polly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your post with interest as publisher of StinkyJournalism.org and one of the authors of the 40,000 plus word report referred to above.</p>
<p>To clarify, we have only published a 10,000 word excerpt of the larger report so far.<br />
See <a href="http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/latest-journalism-news-updates-149.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/latest-journalism-news-updates-149.php</a>. The larger report is forthcoming.</p>
<p>With all due respect to the anthropologist quoted by Science, Pauline Wiessner, I would never &#8220;shoot from the hip&#8221; and say&#8211; without knowing specifics (the man, circumstances, in other words, the facts) and make a definite conclusion and general statement &#8211;“I could have told him immediately that it was a tall tale, an embellished story. I hear lots of them but don’t publish them because they are not true.”</p>
<p>Polly works with a known type of unemployed young man in PNG&#8211;but this is not Daniel Wemp. He is now in his forties, and was a high functioning administrative assistant and driver for World Wildlife Fund in 2001-2002 when Diamond spoke to him and later when Diamond spoke to him for last time (May 2006), he was a oil field technician at Oil Search Ltd. </p>
<p>Polly&#8217;s statement is irresponsible and foolish. We have lots of gang murders in the US. What Polly said was equal to saying, &#8220;I study young men in Harlem that brag about killings &#8230;therefore I could have told you, in advance of any resaerch or specific knowledge and just by hearing the story (great method) that that XYZ man was exaggerating. </p>
<p>I spoke to an AU scientist who also worked with Wemp for a couple of months during the same time period. He said that Wemp was the best assistant he ever had, and that Daniel gave no reason (told no stories) that would make the scientist not trust or believe him. Now that is factual information and direct testimony&#8211;not reckless guessing that&#8211;again for a second round&#8211;defames an innocent man. </p>
<p>Daniel told Diamond stories and Diamond, just like a fiction writer selected and twisted facts to suit an exciting story&#8211;just like &#8220;the fact&#8221; that Henep Isum was in a wheelchair paralyzed for 11 years from an arrow in the spine shot by assailants that Daniel hired. We found Isum. As the photos prove, it&#8217;s all fiction&#8211;Isum is hale and hearty, walking around with no wheelchair in sight! </p>
<p>Ask yourself: if Daniel knew, as Diamond adamantly claims, that he was telling stories that would be made public and yet also secretly knew were untrue&#8211;why would Daniel use real names when he knew people would find out and also knew this would put his life in danger? He simply wouldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The more reasonable scenario is that Diamond thought no one would check his facts&#8211;that&#8217;s why he did literally zero fact checking himself. What adult&#8211;let alone award winning scientist&#8211; takes what their driver says and just publishes it without checking facts? A fiction writer does not fact check, of course&#8211;but a scientist does. So who is the liar? Who is the teller of fiction? Who was selling $25,000 lectures using Daniel Wemp&#8217;s names and stories before getting caught and told to cease. </p>
<p>I believe the facts speak for themselves. However, please read our report before you judge&#8211;I don&#8217;t want you to be like Polly.</p>
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