Beware of scientists bearing expertise
James McElvenny writes…
The title of this post is probably a bit misleading. This is not an anti-science rant as such. My title is simply intended to evoke Beware of speech experts bearing science, a recent post from Aidan Wilson here on this blog that could considered an example of the ‘Respect mah authoritah!’ genre of linguistic blogging. I do hold out the cynical hope, however, that the title will score me some hits from the Lord Monckton Appreciation Society or the Adam and Eve Intelligent Design Support Network.
This post isn’t an apology for Dean Frenkel, either (that’s the gentleman under consideration in Aidan’s post). At least in the quotes Aidan presents, many of his pronouncements do seem rather odd – some might say wrong. This post is essentially a critique of the ad hominem turn Aidan takes in criticising Frenkel, if you’ll pardon my Latin. Aidan says:
…he’s [Dean Frenkel] certainly not a linguist or speech pathologist so he should refrain from claiming to have answers to such questions as the evolution of language, the development of the vocal tract, the linguistic ability of Neanderthals or the entire field of phonetics. Phoneticians undergo years of training in order to be able to comment on phonetics, as do evolutionary anthroplogists and historical linguistics. Giving Frenkel and people like him airtime cheapens our entire field.
It is true that academic linguists undergo years of training and that Dean Frenkel is not one of them. But this does not mean that linguists can wave their PhDs in the air and say ‘Chomsky hath said it’ – they have precisely the same responsibility to present arguments and evidence to support their claims and refutations, and to keep it clean.
Now it’s not possible for anyone in a twenty-minute radio interview or a blog post to convey the knowledge required to properly assess a theory of language evolution. But I think it does more harm than good to bring it to the level of ‘credentials’ (a word Aidan uses later on in the post) rather than keeping it impersonal.
And we scientists need to be conscious of our own limitations and correspondingly modest. In this respect I think Thomas Kuhn’s classic book The Structure of Scientific Revoltions is a good point of departure. As many Fully (sic) readers will know, the book contains several historical case studies which Kuhn uses to demonstrate his thesis that scientists are often constrained by their intellectual environments: he sees them as working within ‘paradigms’, theoretical structures for pursuing particular problems.
In his case studies, Kuhn finds that the paradigms serve as an unquestionable core of belief for scientists carrying on their work. When alternative views or even evidence that conflicts with the paradigm emerge, they are often ignored until a crisis develops. At this point, a scientific revolution takes place, a different paradigm is adopted – which might actually offer less good solutions than the preceding paradigm for some problems. Of course, Kuhn’s book does not stand alone, and in the fifty or so years since it first appeared there have been many critiques and refinements of the sort of views he presents. For those interested in finding out more, an introductory textbook to the philosophy of science, such as Alan Chalmers’ What is this thing called science?, is a good place to start.
Linguists, our pet scientists in this case, provide living and breathing examples of paradigm allegiance. A follower of Noam Chomsky will swear that the grammars of all languages are basically the same – the differences between languages are only superficial – and the reason why is that grammar is already hard-wired into human brains. There are arguments for and against that, and whether you subscribe to that paradigmatic assumption or not will determine what sort of linguistic research you do, and which other linguists you talk to. Another camp, whose members are generally in what linguists would call complementary distribution with Chomskians, will say, following Benjamin Lee Whorf, that the grammars of languages are different in many ways and the differences affect the way their speakers see the world. Here evidence and argument are also presented. There are innumerable other schools of linguists that we could mention to illustrate this point further.
It has to be said, however, that we don’t all have the time and enthusiasm to acquire the knowledge needed to comment intelligently on these different approaches to language and the results they present. The same is true of any other area of science or specialised knowledge. We need to have a certain amount of trust in experts. This is quite normal: when I have a toothache, I go to a dentist; when I get sued for defamation, I go to a lawyer. When a committee of climate scientists tells me I ought to trade in my black smoke belching 1976 Beetle for a bicycle, I listen.
These are dangerious times for scientists – their expertise is frequently called into question by people with vested interests, anti-intellectual attitudes, or with a desire for self-aggrandizement. But scientists have to treat non-specialists in their field with respect: explain as best they can why they have reached the conclusions they have and the problems with ‘unscientific’ views (such as those of Frenkel). ‘I’m a scientist, you’re an idiot’ is not an argument.
With the demonstrated propensity for linguists to reach for ad hominem denunciations, it’s probably fortunate that they generally have a fairly low profile and the fate of the world does not depend on them, unlike, say, climate scientists. We’re only likely to be subjected to the tyranny of a linguist if we need another unit for our BA degree and think that Linguistics 101 looks easy or when we accidently subscribe to the RSS feed of a linguistics blog and can’t work out how to delete it.










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James – good article and thank you.
But I take exception to your characterisation of linguists as ‘scientists’.
They are philosophers, not scientists.
They are debating meaning and it’s foundations – not objectively-observed facts.
ref: Peter Winch “The Idea of a Social Science and it’s Relation to Philosophy”.
(disclaimer of a vested interest – he was my old tutor).
I’ll give you an example. My wife is from the highlands of PNG. English is her third language.
How do you translate a phrase through three different languages?
My mum-in-law was particularly grateful for a Christmas present and said to me in thanks “mi wainem kai-kai kok blon yu.”
This sounds very naughty. But isn’t so when you realise the original common Kuman phrase translated via Pisin means something like “I am very grateful”.
‘Chinese whispers’?
Of course scientists have to treat non-specialists in their field with respect. If linguists went around giving all their non-linguist friends a dressing-down every time they shared an opinion about language, they’d lose friends pretty quickly.
But, the situation is a little bit different when someone is actually masquerading as a speech and language expert. Frenkel’s claims in the interview with Philip Adams are coming from one of two positions: a) the perspective of an expert in singing, in training one’s voice for singing, and the qualities of a good singing voice or b) the perspective of a non-linguist who, like every other non-linguist, is perfectly welcome to share their opinions on language and speech. If it’s a), Frenkel should be disclaiming that this is the perspective he comes from, and if it’s b), then he should both avoid promoting himself as an authority, and also be comfortable with disagreement from people who do consider themselves professionals in the relevant field. Frenkel does neither of those things, and that’s what the problem is here.
Sure, not everyone has the time to flesh out the required knowledge to talk expertly on a given topic for 20mins, but Frenkel has written a whole book called ‘Evolution of Speech’, so we should be able to assume he has spent some time on the subject. It’s not a problem of Frenkel using a different paradigm, or finding evidence that conflicts with an established paradigm – he doesn’t provide any evidence for anything, and ignores the knowledge that is already out there. It’s not just linguists who would take issue with his remarks, either – speech pathologists, biologists, cognitive scientists and even physicists will have trouble digesting some of them.
Even the general public are a bit suspicious; commenters on ABC’s ‘The Drum’, in response to Frenkels ‘analysis’ of the speech of Australian politicians (28/06/11), can be seen noting that his analyses seem fairly subjective, and calling for more information on his methodology and findings, and access to the full results.
One example from monkeytypist: “I know this person supplies some sort of reference as to his qualifications in his bio, but this assessment seems pretty arbitrary. Shouldn’t politicians sound like their voters? What exactly qualifies “good” speaking? He leaves it unstated. I’d need to see what “research” this was based on before I could tell what was behind it.”
More concerning are some comments to another of his articles (20/06/11): “The author is a speech analysist. That should tell you he knows what he’s talking about. If you don’t agree with her content, it will come across as a whine.” This shows that some people clearly do take Dean Frenkel for a professional speech analyst, and it means that by giving out blatant misinformation he is taking advantage of their trust in an ‘authority’ on the subject. This sort of thing is only going to help anti-intellectualism along.
As you say, linguistics is a small field, but I don’t think it’s constructive to just pat Frenkel on the head and say “Nice try, we appreciate your enthusiasm.” It’s also important for linguists to put themselves out there and say “Hey, we know about this stuff, and we’re keen to tell you all about it! Also, if you want to know about this stuff, ask us!”. I’m sure Dean wouldn’t appreciate linguists publicising themselves as the go-to guys for overtone singing instruction, so this is really just a case of it being best to stick to what you know.
An anonymous reader – let’s call him Dr X – has drawn my attention to another recent interview with Philip Adams, this one with Noam Chomsky. To quote Chomsky out of context and thereby effect a slight misrepresentation: ‘I don’t even have professional qualifications…’ (14:16-ish and following)
James, I find your comment disingenuous. In matters linguistic Chomsky is highly qualified – having both a Masters and a PhD. In matters politic, he’s right, he doesn’t have any formal qualifications – but he has published many peer-reviewed articles and has received many honorary degrees and prizes for his work. It is possible to excel in a field outside of the official awards system, but Chomsky still has support (although not complete agreement) within the field of political science and presents evidence to support his opinions.
You are confusing Chomsky’s usual self-depreciation with an assumption that anyone is qualified to openly talk about anything and not be critically appraised for their lack of substantiating evidence to support their opinion. Chomsky has that evidence, Frenkel doesn’t.
Loz, if you listen to the interview, you’ll find that Chomsky is talking about his qualifications in linguistics. You might also note my comment about misrepresenting the quote by using it out of context (the context including the interview, Chomsky’s personal history, and the history of western academia since at least the end of World War II).
I’m a little bit concerned by the black and white turn this discussion is taking. My post does not say that we should ‘just pat Frenkel on the head and say “Nice try, we appreciate your enthusiasm,”‘ (Rosey Billington) or that ‘anyone is qualified to openly talk about anything and not be critically appraised for their lack of substantiating evidence to support their opinion’ (Loz). My post is specifically concerned with the argument from authority that Aidan invokes in his post.
Now Aidan’s post does address specific claims that Frenkel makes to a certain extent. I probably should have acknowledged that more in my response. But although Aidan talks about ‘verifiable evidence’, he never really presents any. Aidan mentions lots of ‘evidence’ and ‘facts’, but he gives almost no citations to allow the reader to check them. The only citations in the entire post used to support his position are a link to a Wikipedia article about Saussure’s theoretical distinction between language and speech and another to a Fry and Laurie sketch where the notion is sort of briefly mentioned – which is there more for humour (which is good!). Perhaps Aidan’s arguments from logic and common sense used to debunk Frenkel’s claims about whether singing or talking came first and whether you need to be able to whistle to say [w] could also be considered sufficiently supported. But beyond that, Aidan just invokes the nebulous claim that he’s stating the currently accepted views of ‘science’.
My comment that ‘it’s not possible for anyone in a twenty-minute radio interview or a blog post to convey the knowledge required to properly assess a theory of language evolution’ was intended more to let Aidan off the hook for not having presented any substantive arguments or evidence rather than as a defence of Frenkel. I thought the following sentence made that reasonably clear, but I’m prepared to accept that it didn’t. And my following discussion of Kuhn’s notion of paradigms was not intended as a defence of Frenkel either. It was merely designed to illustrate the point that ‘science’ is not as straightforward as I feel Aidan’s post implies it to be.
I don’t think I made the motivation behind my post clear. Frenkel’s book does not look like good scholarship but, if you want to debunk it, you should demonstrate why it isn’t good scholarship – saying that it doesn’t conform to current scientific opinion and then not even citing the sources of that opinion just looks arrogant. I think scientists need to be extra careful in this regard in the current intellectual climate. Not sticking strictly to the rules of good, detached argument can be disastrous. A good (or bad!) example is Adam Spencer’s recent interview with Lord Monckton, where Spencer went in guns blazing with personal attacks and ended up apologising to Monckton and being lectured by him like a naughty schoolboy. This is the worst possible outcome – Monckton scores points and the real issues are forgotten.
The Frenkel interview offers ample material for a decent debunking and I’m sure his book does too. I look forward to seeing Aidan ‘duly dissect’ Frenkel’s book – but on its content rather than on Frenkel’s qualifications.
I must of course apologise to Angra, the first commenter on this post, for ignoring him so far. I’m just a bit stumped about how to incorporate the information he’s provided into a discussion on decency in argumentation. It all seems pretty indecent!
James, I think that your comments overlook something that Aidan does emphasise, which is that Dean Frenkel confidently makes assertions about major developments in the evolution of speech which are actually not yet well understood or explained by science. On the questions of what triggered the developments in the human vocal tract that enabled speech, and whether or not this happened before speech or concurrent with the development of speech, as Aidan said, “the truth is that we simply don’t know”, and the question of whether or not Neanderthals had the ability to speak is also “barely explained by science”.
There are lots of good theories around about these things, informed by the very tiny amount of information we have gleaned from the fossil record, but it’s not yet possible to confidently say “it happened this way”. I don’t think Aidan’s point was to say “Frenkel is wrong, linguists are right”, because there in not yet a “right” answer to some of these major questions. The point is that Frenkel happily ignores all the information that is out there and goes as far as saying that singing came before speech “without a doubt”. You don’t even need to go further than the Wikipedia article on the origin of language to know that this idea isn’t even a minor player in the current debates.
The original post is a cautionary tale against self-styled experts. If Frenkel is going to go around saying that singing happened before speech and actually led to speech “without a doubt”, the onus is on him to back that up. There’s nothing wrong with encouraging a healthy sense of cynicism when people like him start popping up in the media as an authoritative source on these matters.
I’m going to take an unapologetic view here. I don’t believe it was illegitimate for me to raise the issue of Frenkel’s lack of relevant qualifications in my post on Thursday and I don’t agree that doing so amounted to an ad hominem attack. We could argue about the pros and cons of the meritocratic class system that such an emphasis on qualifications and credentials entails, but that’s a much larger debate. If the tone was too heavy, as it may well have been, looking at the direct quote at the start of this post, then I will concede that I could have been a bit more courteous.
This doesn’t change the fact that Frenkel went on air and was quoted in papers, described as a ‘speech analyst’ and an ‘expert’, and delivered his opinions about empirical matters as though they were undisputed facts of history. There is still a question as to whether it was Frenkel’s misrepresentation of himself (I’d like to see one of his media releases, personally) or the failure of journalists such as Michelle Grattan or Philip Adams to research their stories, or both. I cannot accept however, that radio interviews like the one I discuss, constitute legitimate scientific debate. And in case someone points out that it’s only popular science, that’s still no excuse for peddling falsehoods.
All this arguing over peripheral concerns like Kuhnian paradigm shifts is distracting us and potentially our readers (if they’re still wading through the soul-searching that James has directed us towards) from the real issue: ensuring that the representation of linguistics (and other sciences) in the media is as accurate as it can be given the level of specialised knowledge needed for a lot of it. Pointing out instances like I did is, I think, our obligation if we’re concerned about that.
Regarding my failure to supply references, to which James alludes in the comment above, it’s a fair cop; if I’m talking about academic honesty and so forth then I should lead by example. The truth is that when I made reference to empirical information, such as that Homo Erectus lived around 1.8 million years ago, it’s all taken from the various Wikipedia articles which I scanned briefly while writing the post, checking up on the websites the Wikipedia articles cite as sources such as the Smithsonian’s website (i.e. here). I didn’t do so explicitly because it’s just a blog post – a book (for which the interview in question was publicity) is a different matter. I had originally planned on going into more detail about phonetics, for which I had John Lavers’ The principles of phonetics (1994; Cambridge: Cambridge University Press) at the ready, specifically to address a point Frenkel made in another article, that Ted Baillieu’s voice is ‘at least half an octave higher than it should be given his size’ (which Lauren has since discussed here). I decided later to restrict my post to the Adams interview and removed such references. I should also state that it’s not exactly easy to find a reference for something like ‘gravity was not the cause for the descended larynx’ or ‘whistling is not a necessary precursor to articulating the labiovelar approximant w’.
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