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	<description>Music for grown-ups who remember when they weren&#039;t</description>
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		<title>By: acannon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>acannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one song I never want to hear ever again. Regardless of whether it&#039;s a good song or not, it&#039;s been done to death!! Have never paid much attention to the lyrics (not a lyrics person) but I can&#039;t even bear the tune anymore. It&#039;s so schmaltzy!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one song I never want to hear ever again. Regardless of whether it&#8217;s a good song or not, it&#8217;s been done to death!! Have never paid much attention to the lyrics (not a lyrics person) but I can&#8217;t even bear the tune anymore. It&#8217;s so schmaltzy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;sung while pissed&#039; - Exactly. I mean, how can we expect a tanked bogan to sing other than a simple tune in the simplest 2/4 time. (Question: How does a Diamondesque piece of crap in 2/4 time qualify as a 3/4 waltz?) 2/4 time is the lazy musicians&#039; best friend.
(Ah, now there&#039;s a subject worthy of an exclusive blog).  Anthem? My fellow Australians, do not ever admit to the &#039;anthem&#039; sentiment re this pile of lazy crap.
This is (psuedo/slack) muzac, not quite worthy of elevator muzac status. Your honour, McDermott, the tosser extraordinaire, is able to bumble his way through this mess. I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;sung while pissed&#8217; &#8211; Exactly. I mean, how can we expect a tanked bogan to sing other than a simple tune in the simplest 2/4 time. (Question: How does a Diamondesque piece of crap in 2/4 time qualify as a 3/4 waltz?) 2/4 time is the lazy musicians&#8217; best friend.<br />
(Ah, now there&#8217;s a subject worthy of an exclusive blog).  Anthem? My fellow Australians, do not ever admit to the &#8216;anthem&#8217; sentiment re this pile of lazy crap.<br />
This is (psuedo/slack) muzac, not quite worthy of elevator muzac status. Your honour, McDermott, the tosser extraordinaire, is able to bumble his way through this mess. I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link to flop eared mule is broken but is - http://flopearedmule.net/2009/06/because-its-about-sex.html

I think the song&#039;s appeal rests entirely in its ability to be sung while pissed and swaying, and holding on to your mate.  I also believe I am the only person here who has attended a wedding where it was the bridal waltz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link to flop eared mule is broken but is &#8211; <a href="http://flopearedmule.net/2009/06/because-its-about-sex.html" rel="nofollow">http://flopearedmule.net/2009/06/because-its-about-sex.html</a></p>
<p>I think the song&#8217;s appeal rests entirely in its ability to be sung while pissed and swaying, and holding on to your mate.  I also believe I am the only person here who has attended a wedding where it was the bridal waltz.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Rope</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Rope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things to note:

1. I agree with Dr Mickey&#039;s first up analysis - good for late night pub / party / campfire etc..etc.. sing-a-longs.

2. Since I have actually done it myself - more often in exasperation than love, but that is another matter - I always liked the &quot;shout it to the blue summer sky...&quot; line.

3. Welcome back Tim, hope this works for you.

3. I have never understood Eddie Vedder&#039;s - yes, that one - fascination with the song. 

Just have a look at this clip of him with Mark Seymour(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkRNz0tR7tc&amp;feature=related), or just look up Vedder and Throw your Arms in similar sites. 

(Sorry Tim, don&#039;t know how to do neat links in here.)

4. John Donovan, I never looked at The One I Love as a stalker song. I always took it that Stipe was taking the piss out of the banality of the lyrics of your bog standard Top 40 love song. 

The switch from &quot;A simple prop to occupy my time&quot; to &quot;Another prop has occupied my time&quot; indicating the somewhat fleeting nature of &quot;Love&quot;, and thus the stupidity of the lyrics of all those bland &#039;love&#039; songs promising eternal love etc... etc...?

Or maybe it was Stipe&#039;s first &#039;coming out&#039; song, taking the mick out of heterosexual mores?

Anyway, the fact that they wrote a great pop tune for it, and that it became their first major cross-over hit adds a certain irony to the whole story. How many people do you think mis-interpreted the meaning behind those lyrics?

Cheers All, and go The Wallabies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things to note:</p>
<p>1. I agree with Dr Mickey&#8217;s first up analysis &#8211; good for late night pub / party / campfire etc..etc.. sing-a-longs.</p>
<p>2. Since I have actually done it myself &#8211; more often in exasperation than love, but that is another matter &#8211; I always liked the &#8220;shout it to the blue summer sky&#8230;&#8221; line.</p>
<p>3. Welcome back Tim, hope this works for you.</p>
<p>3. I have never understood Eddie Vedder&#8217;s &#8211; yes, that one &#8211; fascination with the song. </p>
<p>Just have a look at this clip of him with Mark Seymour(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkRNz0tR7tc&amp;feature=related), or just look up Vedder and Throw your Arms in similar sites. </p>
<p>(Sorry Tim, don&#8217;t know how to do neat links in here.)</p>
<p>4. John Donovan, I never looked at The One I Love as a stalker song. I always took it that Stipe was taking the piss out of the banality of the lyrics of your bog standard Top 40 love song. </p>
<p>The switch from &#8220;A simple prop to occupy my time&#8221; to &#8220;Another prop has occupied my time&#8221; indicating the somewhat fleeting nature of &#8220;Love&#8221;, and thus the stupidity of the lyrics of all those bland &#8216;love&#8217; songs promising eternal love etc&#8230; etc&#8230;?</p>
<p>Or maybe it was Stipe&#8217;s first &#8216;coming out&#8217; song, taking the mick out of heterosexual mores?</p>
<p>Anyway, the fact that they wrote a great pop tune for it, and that it became their first major cross-over hit adds a certain irony to the whole story. How many people do you think mis-interpreted the meaning behind those lyrics?</p>
<p>Cheers All, and go The Wallabies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Morris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, can a girl comment?  I should state upfront that I kinda like the song - it is rather anthemic in an Australian beer/bbq/blokey kind of way, it is almost like a romantic football club song.  I don&#039;t know how many people actually listen to/are conscious of song lyrics, even if they sing them!  Can&#039;t overestimate the power of the melody and plodding, insistent beat, to overcome lyrics.  In any event, they do seem to be drunken one night stand lyrics - when all sorts of things are said...

I agree the lyrics are a bit silly, and I don&#039;t know what four places/running along the street means - maybe you should get in touch with Mark and ask him what he meant?  But then, like books, once out there, the singer loses control of meaning.  It&#039;s up to us.   Assuming it&#039;s not a song he wrote about the former girlfriend who was, sadly, subsequently before the courts for a little bit of close walking...

If you want a stalker song, check out Marc Cohn&#039;s &#039;True Companion&#039;. It&#039;s deceptive - seems like it could be an undying love love song, but has always sounded to me like the guy is going to stalk the girl beyond the grave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, can a girl comment?  I should state upfront that I kinda like the song &#8211; it is rather anthemic in an Australian beer/bbq/blokey kind of way, it is almost like a romantic football club song.  I don&#8217;t know how many people actually listen to/are conscious of song lyrics, even if they sing them!  Can&#8217;t overestimate the power of the melody and plodding, insistent beat, to overcome lyrics.  In any event, they do seem to be drunken one night stand lyrics &#8211; when all sorts of things are said&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree the lyrics are a bit silly, and I don&#8217;t know what four places/running along the street means &#8211; maybe you should get in touch with Mark and ask him what he meant?  But then, like books, once out there, the singer loses control of meaning.  It&#8217;s up to us.   Assuming it&#8217;s not a song he wrote about the former girlfriend who was, sadly, subsequently before the courts for a little bit of close walking&#8230;</p>
<p>If you want a stalker song, check out Marc Cohn&#8217;s &#8216;True Companion&#8217;. It&#8217;s deceptive &#8211; seems like it could be an undying love love song, but has always sounded to me like the guy is going to stalk the girl beyond the grave!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Dunlop</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Dunlop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think the control thing is probably true.  And maybe I should put up a clip of H&amp;C doing it too.  That DAAS one is like watching the national anthem...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think the control thing is probably true.  And maybe I should put up a clip of H&#038;C doing it too.  That DAAS one is like watching the national anthem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heathdon McGregor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Heathdon McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Like the reels&#039; quasimodo dream it is easy to sing along with and hard to sing along with well. As most of the singers are going to get the lyrics wrong they feel less alone or embarrassed.

Also what is it about? Who knows? one listen and you know it is sung by Marc with absolute gusto and passion. Other versions haven&#039;t always measured up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Like the reels&#8217; quasimodo dream it is easy to sing along with and hard to sing along with well. As most of the singers are going to get the lyrics wrong they feel less alone or embarrassed.</p>
<p>Also what is it about? Who knows? one listen and you know it is sung by Marc with absolute gusto and passion. Other versions haven&#8217;t always measured up.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the declarative tone of the song that conditions men to open up to its emotionality. That declarative tone puts the male &#039;speaker&#039; in control of the situation, which has always been a big bloke turn on in any situation, not just a romantic one.

This is one male who does not like the song. It is partly the peculiar and dumb lyrics as outlined above but it is also the edge of self-pity, I&#039;m-so-sorry-for-myself in the voice of the singer that is more than a little off-putting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the declarative tone of the song that conditions men to open up to its emotionality. That declarative tone puts the male &#8217;speaker&#8217; in control of the situation, which has always been a big bloke turn on in any situation, not just a romantic one.</p>
<p>This is one male who does not like the song. It is partly the peculiar and dumb lyrics as outlined above but it is also the edge of self-pity, I&#8217;m-so-sorry-for-myself in the voice of the singer that is more than a little off-putting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave55</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/2009/06/05/kiss-you-in-four-places/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More importantly Tim, why is mrgreen ( :mrgreen: ) a monkey on Crikey blogs? (it makes about as much sense as TYAAM lyrics)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More importantly Tim, why is mrgreen ( <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-monkey.png' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' />  ) a monkey on Crikey blogs? (it makes about as much sense as TYAAM lyrics)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave55</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

It&#039;s a song about (a) one night stand(s) - of course us blokes are going to love it ;-)

More seriously though, I always looked at the lyrics as more of a &#039;promise&#039; to get the one night stand rather than a reflection of the event afterwards (Of course the last lot of quoted lyrics don&#039;t much sense in this context but, as you say, when exactly did song lyrics make sense :mrgreen: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a song about (a) one night stand(s) &#8211; of course us blokes are going to love it <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More seriously though, I always looked at the lyrics as more of a &#8216;promise&#8217; to get the one night stand rather than a reflection of the event afterwards (Of course the last lot of quoted lyrics don&#8217;t much sense in this context but, as you say, when exactly did song lyrics make sense <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/johnnys/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-monkey.png' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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