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THE airliner designer challenge for 2011

Inside a 189 seat Ryanirair jet with only two doors. Wikipedia Commons

Inside a 189 seat Ryanirair 737-800 with only two doors. Wikipedia Commons

If there is one design goal higher than any other for aircraft makers to address in 2011 it is surely that of easily boarding and leaving tightly packed single aisle Airbus A320s and Boeing 737s.

By now most of us have become grudgingly accustomed to miserably tight torture tube seating in jets with as many seats crammed into their cabins as the certification rules, not to mention our kneecaps, will allow.

But in the year just ended I’ve  timed five or six minute delays in even being able to stand up in the aisle after arrival, following inexpensive but ‘intimate’  42-70 minutes block times between actual take-offs and touch-downs.

The Tiger 180 seat A320 minus victims. Wikipedia Commons

The Tiger 180 seat A320 minus victims. Wikipedia Commons

The single aisle Boeings and Airbuses we fly in have internal dimensions that were fine for prompt seating and disembarking when expensive air travel saw cabins configured typically with around 130-140 seats and load factors were often so low that less than half of them were occupied.

This century the same jets can have up to 189 seats (Boeing 737-800) or 180 seats (Airbus A320s) if we look at the two models that do most of the single aisle jet flying in this country, and with 215 or higher seating starting to appear in the form of Jetstar’s A321s. These days these jets often fly with every seat occupied.

The plus for travellers has been affordability. But the negatives of severe crowding and slow ‘turnarounds’ of the jets between flights also impact the airlines. They lose revenue opportunities because the slow boarding and disembarkation processes reduce available flying hours, and we lose circulation in our extremities. And in my opinion, we also lose a margin of safety in an emergency evacuation, in that the harder it is to get to an aisle and to an emergency exit in the event of a fire or ditching, the more of us may die in an otherwise survivable accident.

Boeing and Airbus acknowledge all of the above. They have been dropping hints and exchanging signals for ages now about how ‘all new’ replacement designs for their super profitable single aisle jet families will solve all these problems.

An Airbus image of a future concept design.

An Airbus image of a future concept design.

Both claim that new designs will allow jets carrying more passengers than current members of the A320 and 737 lines to fit into the same gate spaces at airports. That they will be easier to get on and off, thus making us happy, and the airlines richer. And so forth.

But the process of turning these claims into reality has stalled…not forever…but certainly for the time being if we look at actual commitments of engineering resources versus words.  Airbus has put off its all new design until about 2024 (in order to fully utilise new materials technology) and Boeing has huffed and puffed about jumping the gun, and going ‘all new’ real soon.

The words ‘new’ and ‘real soon’ appear to have surreal connotations at Boeing,  judging by the  787 program! As does its slaughter of American talent in favor of farming design and manufacturing processes to incompetent, sub standard but wonderfully cheap outfits abroad.

Airbus has moved in on the ‘slight’ problem of the existing 737 family, of low ground clearance, by announcing an interim revision of its A320s with two new high tech engine options (from the Franco American LEAPX design, or a geared turbo fan from Pratt & Whitney) from 2016.

The Airbus A320NEO, its engines are fatter, but we are too, and it's still a pain to board or leave

The Airbus A320NEO, its engines are fatter, but we are too, and it's still a pain to board or leave

These engines are just wide enough not to fit under 737 wings without Boeing engaging in a very costly redesign of the main gear to lift the ground clearance. They promise to give Airbus very substantial fuel efficiency gains, and thus also payload and range gains over the Boeing line.

However both Airbus and Boeing share one very big challenge at the moment. A shortage of design and engineering talent. Both have cut brutally into their human resources, and in the case of Boeing, both brutally and stupidly, and can’t handle all new designs until they crawl over barbed wire and broken glass to bring back the talents that contemporary managements fired. The Airbus new engine option or NEO program requires far fewer design resources than an all new program, yet if mutterings in the European media are correct, even this program puts stress on its nascent A350 medium sized airliner program and ambitions to upgrade the A380 to fly ultra long distances or add two or three hundred seats to the offering.

How might  an all-new single aisle design overcome cabin congestion issues? In the 1980s the ‘real Boeing’ had a project called the 7J7, which used unducted fan engines and had a twin aisle two by two by two seating arrangement.  The engine concept proved premature, and the generosity of the cabin amenity was starting to look implausible even then,  as the cost pressures of airline deregulation became more apparent.

Both manufacturers have dropped hints about ‘quasi wide body’ designs, in which the major part of the passenger deck might be twin aisle, or even consist of facing seats arranged against each cabin wall, paratrooper style, with two lines of facing seating in the middle.  There are problems with seating that faces sideways rather than ahead, in that the seat restrains would require small air bags to be fitted in the seat belts, as already found in some of the layouts used in side facing or ultra wide premium cabin seats.  But they aren’t insoluble.

There have also been references to a third set of main doors being fitted to the cabins, amidship, rather like a metro carriage, so that passengers could board and leave by an additional set of  full sized doors, roughly where the overwing exits are found today.

Note the above wing door location that may be a clue as to where Airbus envisages gantry access

Note the above wing door location that may be a clue as to where Airbus envisages gantry access

These third door options involve either a high wing design to create that door access, or are predicated on them only being used at terminal gates where a gantry allows passengers to use a ramp to reach them. I’ve been listening to every hint I can in discussion of these new designs, and another feature of them is the expectation that when they fly through busy airports gantry or clam shell type aerobridges would also facilitate simultaneous passenger movements from both sides of the cabin.

Applied to an 180 seat jet today, which at most uses two main doors at the terminal, this could make six main doors available, consigning the boarding and leaving discomfort of  domestic inter city flights today to the past. And allowing the airline using such designs to typically fly ten trips per plane a day between cities like Melbourne and Sydney rather than eight.

That’s the sort of productivity and coincidental comfort gain that is available, if only Airbus and Boeing can hire enough design experience to set them in motion this year with a view to entry into service before the second decade is over.

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  • 1
    DuncanG
    Posted January 1, 2011 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    I’d be interested in knowing what steps the airports are taking in improving embark/disembark times. e.g. are any airports installing systems for rear door aero bridges? Does Virgin Blue still disembark via the rear doors?

  • 2
    Rob
    Posted January 1, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    There is a solution to slow boarding; it’s a new system called the Flying Carpet that gets passengers into the right order before they head for the plane. Though simple it nearly halves boarding time, as verified by computer simulations comparing different boarding methods. eg. The Flying Carpet gets 150 passengers aboard an Airbus A 320 in less than 9 minutes, compared to the standard back-to-front system which takes nearly 16 minutes. See the sped-up video comparison on http://www.roundpegin.com/html/aircraft_boarding.html

  • 3
    Ben Sandilands
    Posted January 1, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    DuncanG,

    Virgin Blue still uses the rear doors when the weather permits, but the only systems I’ve seen introduced recently for improved passenger access on a consistent basis have been for A380s, including at Sydney and Melbourne where it is easier to load and unload a full load of up to 486 or so passengers than it is to struggle through a single door on a Qantas 737-800.

    Rob,

    The Flying Carpet process seems excellent to me, and I’m puzzled at the seeming lack of enthusiasm by carriers.

  • 4
    chpowell
    Posted January 1, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Ben

    re: Boeing and the 737…seen this?

    http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/peopleandpower/2010/12/20101214104637901849.html

    Kind regards………

  • 5
    Ben Sandilands
    Posted January 1, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Those allegations are extremely serious, and in my opinion, the Boeing and FAA responses are feeble and lacking in detail, perhaps because of the state of litigation between the parties.

    If Boeing or the FAA could provide a detailed response we might be able to better assess.

    I’ve asked Boeing for as detailed a response as possible. Whether I get one before the 787 gets certified is another matter.

    But I should put my record on the line about manufacturer PR statements clear. During the 737 defective rudder issues stories Boeing disgraced itself, inventing a series of claims that it was variously the fault of the pilots or unique twin rotor wind spirals in the case of the Colorado Springs crash. It had to be dragged kicking and bawling to recognition that it was all along a design fault in part of the rudder control systems, which in turn lead in the early part of the decade just over of the biggest airliner safety modification program in aviation history.

    The capacity of Boeing to truthfully and candidly discuss issues affecting its airliners seems to me to be extremely minimal.

    When Ansett was found to have exceeded the aged airframe inspection cycle limits on its 767-200s by up to 37,000 cycles Boeing’s official position was that the airliners were perfectly safe to fly. Which was complete rubbish.

    That said, it may be that there are serious flaws in the Al Jazeera report. If Boeing can provide a detailed response to those claims I will be very pleased to publish it.

  • 6
    TomTom
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Besides the issue of putting more rows of seats into the aircraft from front to back, there is the issue that, between the time that Boeing designed the B707/B727/B737 fuselage and Airbus designed the A320 family fuselage which is eight inches wider than the B737 fuselage, the average passenger’s dimensions had grown by an inch wider at the shoulders and three-quarters of an inch wider at the hips. One presumes that people did not stop growing upon design of the A320 – most anecdotal evidence indicates that people have grown much larger in recent years – so that both of these aircraft are inadequate to accommodate the lateral space needs of today’s passengers, at the same time that the airlines are squeezing them more and more, front-to-back.

  • 7
    Angra
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    Ben – I was at Sydney airport yesterday and saw 2 A380′s depart – one Singapore Airlines, one Qantas, So presumably they are in the air now.

    I also saw an MD DC10 land – a cargo flight. I didn’t know these were still flying. Must be the jet plane with the worst reputation ever.

    I also saw a Boeing 767 in the livery of Air Transport International land. Aren’t they the company implicated in rendition flights for the CIA?

  • 8
    Ben Sandilands
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    SYD is often A380 busy, even though the trans Pacific flights by the Qantas remain grounded pending binding understandings between the airline and Rolls-Royce on the use of the engines at higher thrust ratings. Emirates alone can account for four A380 movements as it cycles early morning arrival across to Auckland and back before the evening departure for Dubai. Agree re the MD-11, even the FAA in retrospect admitted that certification of the type was at least premature. Not sure about ATI’s record. Hope no-one was being dragged across the tarmac and hauled on-baord, although have to say I feel that way some days!

    Have a great year everyone, he says a day late after emerging from party mode.

  • 9
    David Klein
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Ben, I certainly agree with the need to find some alternative to the emergency pop-out over wing exits. Having been involved in a couple of aircraft certification emergency evacuation exercises over the years, there is little doubt during a real emergency the pop-out exit will become the archilles heel of securing passenger evacuation safety. From my observations, even with education by the flight attendants, there is no way known under emergency evacuation pressure the passengers are going to succeed in popping the exit in an expedient time frame that will prevent a significant bottle neck of passengers in the aisle.

  • 10
    wordfactory
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    It seems idiotic to me that Boeing and Airbus have killed, or are in the process of killing, at least three successful commercial aircraft designs which they will not replace: the 767, the world’s only seven-abreast design (2x3x2), which is able to operate at up to 11,000 kms (theoretical) range with 250 pax and just 186 metric tonnes MTOW (although it can’t carry standard size cargo pallets, it is still a useful freight hauler); the four-engine A340, which is to be replaced by a twin, the very large A350, which means there will be no 300-seater in existence to fly remote routes; and the A310, a 46-metre version of the same barrel used in the 63-75-metre A340, which was an excellent freight hauler with up to 230 people on the main deck, a logical step up from the narrowbodies (which end at about 215 seats in sardine configuration). In the 1990s, Airbus claimed there was no market for an A300/310 replacement, even though the A330-200, which is closest to that specification, has since become Airbus’s hottest seller, while Boeing is also using the much larger B787 to kill off the 767, so those using narrowbodies (e.g., LCCs) will soon have no option but to jump at least 50% in gauge to 300 seats-plus if they want to grow unit sizes. Tell that to the airline accountants.

  • 11
    Bill Parker
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    This is going to be a rather naive comment, but is there anything fundamentally wrong with re-building anew the 767? That is, use the same machine tools and the rest of it to produce more of an aircraft we trust?

    I understand that once a certain life has been reached you cannot “restore” a jet like you can an old car, but what I am reading regularly (thanks to Ben’s writings) seems borderline mad in this quest to do things that maybe ain’t meant to be. No one is going to get me on a 787. But then I expect I had a counterpart in the early days of commercial flying!

  • 12
    Ben Sandilands
    Posted January 2, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    The 767 in my opinion is the most comfortable jet ever to fly domestic service in Australia. The seven across economy seating was the optimum for amenity at a reasonable cost.

    It was also killed stone dead by the A330, which is less comfortable in economy, with narrower seats in an eight abreast cabin, because it was structurally lighter and stronger and could take international sized cargo containers in its under floor holds. By any of the standards that excite bean counters, the A330 is unbeatable in operating economics over short to medium haul and now, with improvements, even medium to longish haul routes.

    But the fact remains, the A330 is a pain in the rear to sit in, if flying economy, and not nice for fast and civilised passenger boarding and disembarking. And we are talking about the A330 at eight across. Air Asia X flies them at nine across in a format worthy of the attention of Amnesty International.

    As a historical (or hysterical) note, the British and European charter operators did actually squeeze seats into 767s at eight across. When Thomas Cook flew some of these charters all the way to Australia in the late 90s a number of their customers refused to make the return trip, and the airline was allowed to offer their seats on the Australian market at incredibly cheap rates. So cheap that buying two, one for each buttock, would have been an attractive alternative to the regular long haul economy seat.

    Unfortunately, the 767 is history.

    It joins the ranks of the ‘dead comfortable’ airliners, the wonderful if eccentric Airspeed Ambassador, the Boeing Stratoclipper, the great flying boats, the Electras, DC-6Bs and Vickers Viscounts, and in more recent times, the early 707s and DC-8s.

    For the wide and weary, today’s champions of economy seating comfort are the Embraer E-jets, the 777s (but only at nine abreast) and the A380s. Of this disparate trio, only the E-jets are truly domesticated in terms of range/cost benefits, as the others are engineered for much longer average flight stages.

  • 13
    Frequent Traveller
    Posted January 3, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Happy 2011 !… and it WILL be happy, because the challenge presented in this blog concerning quicker ground turn-arounds for SMR Feeder aircraft HAS BEEN SOLVED !! The nut to be cracked in 2011 was cracked … back in 1984/85 !

    Cf FlightGlobal http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/runway-girl/2009/12/enter-the-twin-aisle-narrowbod.html or again http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/runway-girl/2010/07/photos-twin-aisle-narrowbody-i.html or Actualités Aéronautiques in France http://avia.superforum.fr/t1070p100-a320-et-b737-bi-couloir#22094 + many others … You just need to Google up “Twin Aisle, A320, 737″ and they all come forth.

    The problem here is not in any wont of new ideas, but in RESISTANCE factually from the Producer Lobby (Manufacturers & Operators) in accepting ideas which give extra advantages to the End Users :

    Wonder why Crikey/Plane Talking hasn’t bothered to comment the new Twin Aisle Narrowbody Aircraft … or did I miss you out somewhere ? In any event, I think Boeing or Airbus should pick up “TAO” (the Twin Aisle Option) alongside with the forthcoming “NEO”, because legitimately, when enhanced operating efficiency is offered to airlines, from advances in Technology (here : from the new LeapX or PurePower UHBP fans), it shouldn’t serve solely for improvements in profitability for the benefit of Operators, but those advances should be SHARED with the factual END-USERS of the aircraft, ie with the general Travelling Public and with people to whom Aircraft and Airports are their working places : ie passing on at least partially those advances as enhancements in cabin Safety, Comfort, Ergonomy for benefit of EndUsers!

  • 14
    Ben Sandilands
    Posted January 4, 2011 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Frequent Traveller,

    Keep Googling and you will also find my Crikey and Plane Talking articles on those press conferences or announcements. You will also find in the print archives now accessible with a little WORK on your part, stories I wrote in the 80s and 90s for the Fairfax media concerning the 7J7, the unducted fan engines and in the later 90s some patents for a high wing version of a semi-wide body by some Boeing engineers. I’m not sure I agree with your conclusion that the ‘producer lobby’ is resisting the proposed innovations in any coherent way. Some certainly are, but I don’t think they come together in a smoke filled room to conspire to keep us uncomfortable.

    On the record in the stories that you didn’t discover you will find positive attitudes to a total new geometry in this class of airliner. In my opinion, all the evidence for their not proceeding points to a lack of engineering and design resources and a view that the engine and materials technology isn’t quite ready yet.

  • 15
    Peter Evans
    Posted January 4, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Bit harsh on the A330. Without naming names, maybe you’ve only flown on a Qantas configured A330, with their ridiculous legroom and so on? I flew A330s to Hong Kong recently on Cathay (2-4-2 config) and they had more legroom than I have seen in economy class for decades. Maybe that’s a long haul configured plane – I’m not a massive flyer, but I’ll wager that Cathay A330 had more leg room than the Singapore A380 I flew in a year earlier.

  • 16
    Zortiander
    Posted January 4, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    @Wordfactory
    The A340 is still being produced on order. Count at least 24 month lead time or more. The reason it is seemingly “dead” is simple economics. same for the A310. Why operate such an aircraft, when you’ve got the A330-200? Even though more expensive when buying, it’ll end up being cheaper (even at the same passenger counts) due to less consumption.

    @Ben
    It’s nice to complain – but it won’t change anything. No matter how you design an aircraft, the aim will always be to fit the maximum number of people into it, no matter the comfort of the passengers. There will always be sufficiently people who want to fly cheap, but not those who want to fly expensive (see the economic downturn – business went down the line). As to safety – the airplanes are certified for those configurations. Airbus was able to evacuate a full-economy high-density A380 layout in under 80 seconds.

    As to boarding: you could also use the aft doors, limit cabin baggage etc. Nobody complains about trains being narrow and sometimes taking ages to load, or even having to stand for hours because you don’t have a seat. And compared to the pains and waiting times in security lines and then beign patted over by the over-eager TSA agents, the boarding time is actually short.

    @Frequent Traveler
    Maybe check a bit revenue statistics. You will note that carriers don’t make much money. In fact, you will note that those making money are operating mostly full economy high-density layout. Bottom line is: these advances are shared, in the form of low prices. Ever wondered why in Europe it’s cheaper to fly than to take a train? Exactly, it is because every single advance in a/c weight is shared, by dropping the price. No use complaining – you can still fly business or premium economy or use a legacy carrier with some more legroom (they do exist) and pay more.

  • 17
    Rob
    Posted January 5, 2011 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    You can redesign planes, add more doors, add more aisles, and rearrange the deck chairs (sorry, seats), etc., until you’re blue in the face and maybe make boarding slightly quicker. But if you really want to make it easier and faster, like twice as quick, all you need to do is to get passengers in the right order BEFORE they enter the plane. This is easily achieved by means of an Australian invention “The Flying Carpet” (patent pending”). Simple, effective, and cheap. See how well it works on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJjF7ph2h4

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