Jetstar returns to Honolulu non-stop from Melbourne but doesn’t fix its web site
There is something that tells you a business isn’t well run when it announces something you can’t buy, which is what happened when Jetstar said this morning it would return to Melbourne-Honolulu non stop A330 flights from 15 December.
The timetable section of Jetstar.com.au, as at 1332 today eastern time, was last updated on 4 April and offered PDF timetables only as far as 27 October, the start of the northern winter timetable season.
Attempts to use the book flights function failed for requested dates between 1 January 2013 and 15 January 2013.
Of course it will fix the web site, and we’ll revisit both the Qantas and Jetstar sites when the reality for consumers catches up with the press releases for the media.
The announcement also raises questions about the conflict between the tired old 767-300ERs that poor unloved ruinously costly full service Qantas offers between Sydney and Honolulu and what are quite comfortable Qantas full service configured A330-200s gifted or otherwise transferred to Jetstar.
Just what is going on?
When Qantas.com is consulted as an alternative to the non-functional non-updated Jetstar. com site for the weekly timetable it shows one outbound flight, Jetstar’s JQ3, leaving Tullamarine on Monday afternoons for Honolulu via Sydney.
It refused to display any return flight options for any date, which is really odd, since normally the Qantas web site will attempt to match a return flight to a port like Sydney to a connecting flight to Melbourne.
But whatever it was up to, it didn’t display any non-stop Melbourne-Honolulu-Melbourne flights.
Since Qantas customers are supposed to be resourceful, the next step was to ask Qantas.com for the timetable between Sydney and Honolulu with a view to constructing an itinerary that did what airlines are supposed to do, and get you both to and from your destination, unless Alan Joyce has one of those Saturday morning’s like at the end of last October when he grounded the whole shebang, and apparently quickly dicatated and printed thousands of letters of notification to a whole army of bored courier cyclists loitering with intent on the off chance that something might happen.
That timetable inquiry showed the Sydney had six JQ3 flights non-stop to Honolulu in that period per week, and four full service museum fleet 767-300ERs for full service Qantas on four days. There was a close proximity on timings of the Qantas and Jetstar departures on two days out of seven.
There is of course another way to fly non-stop from Sydney or Brisbane to Honolulu in that period, which is on an A330-200 operated by Hawaiian, and if you were travelling from Melbourne there are connections offered by its allied carrier Virgin Australia.
The announcement from Jetstar this morning says its non-stop service from Melbourne to Honolulu will rise to three departures a week by March. All you have to do is find the flights, because they aren’t/weren’t on Qantas.com or Jetstar.com.au.








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Slow news day Ben?
Ben, it’s bookable on the Jetstar website as of now. JQ 1 departs MEL at 4.30pm arriving in HNL at 6.00am the same day. JQ 2 departs HNL at 7.30am arriving back in MEL the following day at 4.10pm.
Well, its almost 4 pm in the east and despite being told by Jetstar that the northern winter timetable was being loaded just before 2 pm it isn’t there as a PDF download.
That timetable will give us the complete picture as to where Jetstar has added and moved capacity, and I think the delay is driven by a desire to have to media do the lazy thing and write up the stories of expansion, but not look at where the extra capacity is coming from.
I also think that Qantas international will be doing some route pruning in the northern winter season, which is why when you query certain routes you encounter problems.
The issue on this supposedly slow news day is that if you do a little bit of work, you will see that the full picture is being selectively released, and hey, sucker that I am, I think that any reporter that does more than suck up with cut and paste stories will try and find out what the full picture is.
It helps pass the time on a slow day, unless you want to be pawned of course.
Seriously ?
You can not even imagine how many times sales and marketing department of so praised here other than Qantas airline were running promotions forgetting to tell websites guys that they need to update something. You know, it happens in such complex environments as airline. And yeah, I’m pretty sure that J* booking panel comes straight from Navitaire so it’s even more complex.
Having once already sampled the delights of the 767 fleet on Qantas from Sydney to Honolulu, the next time I travel there [next year] it will be on Hawaiian – even if JetStar seem to now magically have the better aircraft.
Maybe it’s just me, but why would you let your cheaper cousin fly BETTER aircraft to the same destination as your premium brand ? Or its that too obvious ?
Graeme , its Melbourne- Honululu not Sydney-Honolulu. Obviously Melbourne doesnt have a direct service to Hawaii.
ghostwhowalksnz – Yes i know it refers to Melbourne but my point is valid – JetStar end up flying better aircraft whilst Qantas gives you their clapped-out remnants. Since I live in Perth I don’t have any direct options to go to the US but even after flying across Oz I’d pick any other carrier but Qantas for a Honolulu trip. The A380 offering to LA from Sydney is pretty special from Qantas but on many other routes their offering is way below what their competitors offer.
OK Flylo but what sort of service is it that lands you in HNL at 0600? Thanks but I prefer to travel on an airline which enables you to actually get into your accommodation without sitting in a hotel foyer for half a day. The Hawaiian Airlines flight ex Sydney shows some sensitivity in that regard.
Arriving at 6am. Just ask for an early check in . You have to drive these things and not be sheep
Ask for an early check-in! You have to be joking. The usual response around the world, including Australia, to such requests is an invitation to you to book for the previous night, or ‘you are welcome to use our early arrivals facility’[a toilet] , or would you like to have breakfast, or just plain sorry we were full last night…..Honolulu was no different the last time I was there
If the actions of the QANTAS management over the past five years was played out in a private company they would have been run out of town years ago.
Clifford soaks up $600,000 a year fro his efforts, Cosgrove..you know the self congratulatory ex Army chief get $260,000 a year . Dixon is still getting paid consultancy fees . These people have neither shame nor intellect.Woe is my country!
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