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	<title>Comments on: Miscellany</title>
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		<title>By: Antony Green</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2005/12/07/miscellany/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the National Anthem vote in 1977. Advance Australia Fair won 43.4% of the primary vote, and after the distribution of preferences, won 65.2% of the two-song preferred vote.

You&#039;ve got to love the concept of a two-song preferred vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the National Anthem vote in 1977. Advance Australia Fair won 43.4% of the primary vote, and after the distribution of preferences, won 65.2% of the two-song preferred vote.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to love the concept of a two-song preferred vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Orr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2005/12/07/miscellany/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will look sad, but I&#039;m not replying to my own comment.

I just wanted to draw attention to Rann&#039;s referendum proposal.    He&#039;s given no details of the mechanism, but it could only be a multi-option vote - a &#039;preferenda&#039;.        

1.  Would it be by preferential vote, or plurality wins?   I imagine only a preferential vote could guarantee the legitimacy of any outcome.
2.  Does anyone know of preferenda being used in Australia before?    I&#039;ve only come up with some local option polls (eg offering communities different hours for pub closing times).
3.  My interest in this is a belief that we should resolve the Republican question in one fell swoop with a preferendum - pitching, head-to-head Con Monarchy; Parl Apptment and Direct Election models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will look sad, but I&#8217;m not replying to my own comment.</p>
<p>I just wanted to draw attention to Rann&#8217;s referendum proposal.    He&#8217;s given no details of the mechanism, but it could only be a multi-option vote &#8211; a &#8216;preferenda&#8217;.        </p>
<p>1.  Would it be by preferential vote, or plurality wins?   I imagine only a preferential vote could guarantee the legitimacy of any outcome.<br />
2.  Does anyone know of preferenda being used in Australia before?    I&#8217;ve only come up with some local option polls (eg offering communities different hours for pub closing times).<br />
3.  My interest in this is a belief that we should resolve the Republican question in one fell swoop with a preferendum &#8211; pitching, head-to-head Con Monarchy; Parl Apptment and Direct Election models.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Orr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2005/12/07/miscellany/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I hate to see the term &#039;No Comment(s)&#039; let me break the silence, with a quick comment on Sen/the Hon/Erica Betz&#039;s press release.

The first thing to note is how refreshing it is to see a press release with a footnote.   A first?   Forget the fact that the footnoted paragraph is not just irrelevant (indeed referring back 22 years) but a case of &#039;methinks he doth protest too much&#039;.      Press Releases need pseudo-academic touches the way government ads need flippant and passing citation of bogus research (yes, I&#039;m referring to the Business Council of Australia ads).

The second thing to note is that the ambit claim on tax deductibility of donations has been stripped somewhat.    It is now $1500 pa (funny figure, since it is considered obsolete as the threshold for disclosure).

Even so, $1500 is 15 times the present level of $100.    AND it&#039;s extended to company donations (mind you some coys already claim, as a business expense, their overpriced tickets to party dinners, conferences, millenia fora etc...)    The problem with any form of tax deductibility is that it is a taxpayer subsidy of private political largesse.    And by definition an unequal one since poorer/retired voters can&#039;t afford more than token donations, and higher income earners benefit more since their deduction is at the highest marginal rate.

Note that the current deductibilty of just $100 - currently only allowed to natural persons - just covers a party membership.       The new $1500 will, I presume, apply to the first $1500 of up to 9 donations to a party, since the larger parties register by state/territory branch + as a national entity.   That&#039;s up to $3600 tax saved - or rather ploughed into their favoured party - by every corporate donor, every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I hate to see the term &#8216;No Comment(s)&#8217; let me break the silence, with a quick comment on Sen/the Hon/Erica Betz&#8217;s press release.</p>
<p>The first thing to note is how refreshing it is to see a press release with a footnote.   A first?   Forget the fact that the footnoted paragraph is not just irrelevant (indeed referring back 22 years) but a case of &#8216;methinks he doth protest too much&#8217;.      Press Releases need pseudo-academic touches the way government ads need flippant and passing citation of bogus research (yes, I&#8217;m referring to the Business Council of Australia ads).</p>
<p>The second thing to note is that the ambit claim on tax deductibility of donations has been stripped somewhat.    It is now $1500 pa (funny figure, since it is considered obsolete as the threshold for disclosure).</p>
<p>Even so, $1500 is 15 times the present level of $100.    AND it&#8217;s extended to company donations (mind you some coys already claim, as a business expense, their overpriced tickets to party dinners, conferences, millenia fora etc&#8230;)    The problem with any form of tax deductibility is that it is a taxpayer subsidy of private political largesse.    And by definition an unequal one since poorer/retired voters can&#8217;t afford more than token donations, and higher income earners benefit more since their deduction is at the highest marginal rate.</p>
<p>Note that the current deductibilty of just $100 &#8211; currently only allowed to natural persons &#8211; just covers a party membership.       The new $1500 will, I presume, apply to the first $1500 of up to 9 donations to a party, since the larger parties register by state/territory branch + as a national entity.   That&#8217;s up to $3600 tax saved &#8211; or rather ploughed into their favoured party &#8211; by every corporate donor, every year.</p>
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