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		<title>By: Geoffrey Keed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2463</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Keed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies to Mr Bowe if I have taken &quot;Even Family First has disappointed by deciding to run only in country seats&quot; out of context, however I point out that Family First does have a candidate in the Brisbane electorate of Mansfield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies to Mr Bowe if I have taken &#8220;Even Family First has disappointed by deciding to run only in country seats&#8221; out of context, however I point out that Family First does have a candidate in the Brisbane electorate of Mansfield.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2426</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think FF pose a significant threat to the Nats in the seats they need to win in the regions and on the coasts, because they&#039;re dirty on Springborg for not wanting to stamp out legal prostitution (yes, folks, that&#039;s the #1 issue for Queensland families!) and disinclined to allocate preferences. Even if they do, they more than likely don&#039;t have the people to staff all sorts of very remote booths. 

So optional preferential means that they may reduce the Nats&#039; primary significantly through their votes exhausting. That&#039;s more problematic for the Nats&#039; chances in trying to take seats off Labor, but it&#039;s not impossible it could lead to a Nats loss if their vote comes from nowhere in a seat.

More reasoning on this explained here, and commentary on the independents. The independents are again mainly a problem for the Nats, not for Labor.

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/08/22/crikey-story-paulines-ghost-haunts-the-nats/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think FF pose a significant threat to the Nats in the seats they need to win in the regions and on the coasts, because they&#8217;re dirty on Springborg for not wanting to stamp out legal prostitution (yes, folks, that&#8217;s the #1 issue for Queensland families!) and disinclined to allocate preferences. Even if they do, they more than likely don&#8217;t have the people to staff all sorts of very remote booths. </p>
<p>So optional preferential means that they may reduce the Nats&#8217; primary significantly through their votes exhausting. That&#8217;s more problematic for the Nats&#8217; chances in trying to take seats off Labor, but it&#8217;s not impossible it could lead to a Nats loss if their vote comes from nowhere in a seat.</p>
<p>More reasoning on this explained here, and commentary on the independents. The independents are again mainly a problem for the Nats, not for Labor.</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/08/22/crikey-story-paulines-ghost-haunts-the-nats/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/08/22/crikey-story-paulines-ghost-haunts-the-nats/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2422</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jon and Dave have summed up my thoughts on the progress of the Coalition campaign. The selection of Nationals candidates in city seats was never a smart idea (I still maintain that if Labor hadn&#039;t chosen a union hack in the Gaven by-election, they might have held the seat against Alex Douglas because of this), and the who-will-be-leader fiasco was a stuffup of massive proportions, and one that I think effectively finished them.

I&#039;m cynical about the impact that Family First and the Greens can have in Queensland, where the unicameral parliament prevents them from having any hope of winning seats. I really don&#039;t think that either of them will have much effect on the campaign, and I suspect what preferences they do send to the major parties will probably cancel each other out.

The question of the independents, on the other hand, is much more interesting. I suspect that all the incumbents will retain their seats, except for (possibly) Elisa Roberts, due to her flip-flopping on recontesting her seat and the Traveston dam. In this climate, I&#039;d put my money on a couple more appearing, and I wouldn&#039;t count on the lack of hype surrounding any individual independent as a sign that no new ones will win. Queensland has been very friendly to conservative independents for years, and the likes of Ray Hopper (2001) and Trevor Perrett (1989) both came out of nowhere to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jon and Dave have summed up my thoughts on the progress of the Coalition campaign. The selection of Nationals candidates in city seats was never a smart idea (I still maintain that if Labor hadn&#8217;t chosen a union hack in the Gaven by-election, they might have held the seat against Alex Douglas because of this), and the who-will-be-leader fiasco was a stuffup of massive proportions, and one that I think effectively finished them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m cynical about the impact that Family First and the Greens can have in Queensland, where the unicameral parliament prevents them from having any hope of winning seats. I really don&#8217;t think that either of them will have much effect on the campaign, and I suspect what preferences they do send to the major parties will probably cancel each other out.</p>
<p>The question of the independents, on the other hand, is much more interesting. I suspect that all the incumbents will retain their seats, except for (possibly) Elisa Roberts, due to her flip-flopping on recontesting her seat and the Traveston dam. In this climate, I&#8217;d put my money on a couple more appearing, and I wouldn&#8217;t count on the lack of hype surrounding any individual independent as a sign that no new ones will win. Queensland has been very friendly to conservative independents for years, and the likes of Ray Hopper (2001) and Trevor Perrett (1989) both came out of nowhere to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other problem with the Sunday Mail polls is:
- They include the Democrats, who are de-registered
- They don&#039;t include Family First, who are registered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other problem with the Sunday Mail polls is:<br />
- They include the Democrats, who are de-registered<br />
- They don&#8217;t include Family First, who are registered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at Qld election blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Currumbin2Cook&lt;/a&gt;, Graham Young reproduces his &lt;a href=&quot;http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001554.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunday Mail column&lt;/a&gt;, the influence of factionalism in the Libs on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001556.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robina preselection&lt;/a&gt; and expresses some doubts about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001558.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunday Mail polls&lt;/a&gt;, with which I concur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at Qld election blog <a href="http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/" rel="nofollow">Currumbin2Cook</a>, Graham Young reproduces his <a href="http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001554.html" rel="nofollow">Sunday Mail column</a>, the influence of factionalism in the Libs on the <a href="http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001556.html" rel="nofollow">Robina preselection</a> and expresses some doubts about the <a href="http://currumbin2cook.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001558.html" rel="nofollow">Sunday Mail polls</a>, with which I concur.</p>
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		<title>By: David Walsh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2415</link>
		<dc:creator>David Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another small issue - your Gympie info box still lists Roberts as the Outgoing Member.

It sounds like she&#039;s been caught at an indecisive moment. It reminds me of something &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nsw/2005/guide/background.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Antony wrote&lt;/a&gt; last year:

&lt;blockquote&gt;It appears that fixed general election dates have given MPs more opportunity to consider their future rather than be rushed to re-nominate by the calling of a snap election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another small issue &#8211; your Gympie info box still lists Roberts as the Outgoing Member.</p>
<p>It sounds like she&#8217;s been caught at an indecisive moment. It reminds me of something <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nsw/2005/guide/background.htm" rel="nofollow">Antony wrote</a> last year:</p>
<blockquote><p>It appears that fixed general election dates have given MPs more opportunity to consider their future rather than be rushed to re-nominate by the calling of a snap election.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disunity is death in politics and in the Queensland election the Opposition is showing a fatal level of division.  We have a splintering of unity on two fronts. 

1.  Between the Nationals and Liberals.  The coalition is shoddy and weak.  The failed &#039;New Liberals&#039; plan is fresh in the minds of most Qlders and Bruce Flegg and Springborg don&#039;t seem to have the same entrenched relationship that had grown between Quinn and Springborg simply because of time and necessity.  The &#039;Who will be Premier?&#039; question is also highly damaging.  

2.  The factional nonsense gripping the Liberals will lose them votes among those who care (if people do actually care).  The Robina preselection is just another example of the Santoro faction trying to exert undeserved influence and swinging voters won&#039;t like this.  Though the Beattie government has screwed up plenty of times they do appear to be successfully united.  

For these two reasons the Coalition have consigned themselves Opposition for perhaps another two terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disunity is death in politics and in the Queensland election the Opposition is showing a fatal level of division.  We have a splintering of unity on two fronts. </p>
<p>1.  Between the Nationals and Liberals.  The coalition is shoddy and weak.  The failed &#8216;New Liberals&#8217; plan is fresh in the minds of most Qlders and Bruce Flegg and Springborg don&#8217;t seem to have the same entrenched relationship that had grown between Quinn and Springborg simply because of time and necessity.  The &#8216;Who will be Premier?&#8217; question is also highly damaging.  </p>
<p>2.  The factional nonsense gripping the Liberals will lose them votes among those who care (if people do actually care).  The Robina preselection is just another example of the Santoro faction trying to exert undeserved influence and swinging voters won&#8217;t like this.  Though the Beattie government has screwed up plenty of times they do appear to be successfully united.  </p>
<p>For these two reasons the Coalition have consigned themselves Opposition for perhaps another two terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2413</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/08/20/first-week-wrap-up-on-the-qld-election-campaign/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trackback&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/08/20/first-week-wrap-up-on-the-qld-election-campaign/" rel="nofollow">Trackback</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the point about Family First, they pose a potential danger to Nats in the bush and regional areas. And for that matter to Coalition candidates on the Gold and Sunshine Coasts, if they run there, as there are large blocs of evangelicals on both coasts. With optional preferential, any splintering of the conservative vote risks turning close seats into effective first past the post contests, which has led to Labor wins in unlikely places in the past.

FF are also cool on allocating preferences to the Nats, because they don&#039;t like Springborg taking a relatively soft line on the legalised brothel question. So they are sending round a candidate questionnaire.

FF might be able to direct their preferences more tightly than ONP, but it depends on how many troops they can muster on election day. And the culture of &quot;Just Vote One&quot; has been pretty successfully entrenched in Qld since Beattie began pushing it some elections ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the point about Family First, they pose a potential danger to Nats in the bush and regional areas. And for that matter to Coalition candidates on the Gold and Sunshine Coasts, if they run there, as there are large blocs of evangelicals on both coasts. With optional preferential, any splintering of the conservative vote risks turning close seats into effective first past the post contests, which has led to Labor wins in unlikely places in the past.</p>
<p>FF are also cool on allocating preferences to the Nats, because they don&#8217;t like Springborg taking a relatively soft line on the legalised brothel question. So they are sending round a candidate questionnaire.</p>
<p>FF might be able to direct their preferences more tightly than ONP, but it depends on how many troops they can muster on election day. And the culture of &#8220;Just Vote One&#8221; has been pretty successfully entrenched in Qld since Beattie began pushing it some elections ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2006/08/19/highlights-of-week-one-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Antony, but it&#039;s still a very bad outlook for Catalbiano, who will be busy today looking after the Santoro faction&#039;s interests in the Robina preselection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Antony, but it&#8217;s still a very bad outlook for Catalbiano, who will be busy today looking after the Santoro faction&#8217;s interests in the Robina preselection.</p>
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