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	<title>Comments on: Idle speculation: late February edition</title>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-12598</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am closing comments on this thread, and have moved two just posted to the new thread &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/474#comment-12597&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am closing comments on this thread, and have moved two just posted to the new thread <a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/474#comment-12597" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: bill weller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10668</link>
		<dc:creator>bill weller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Veronica can you explain what you mean when you said  &quot;I think you see the current Labor Party through eyes turned back at several decades ago.&quot; As for Peter Garrett I love his music and his ideals from those long lost years, but now we have a Government and opposition that are right wing with religious overtones and big business supportive at the expense of the worker, community and THEIR environment. I work in a factory, I live in a working area bordering on a massive unemployment suburb which tears at the heart. Kids with little clothes and if they have it&#039;s so old that op shops would not sell them. Single mothers in abundance each with horror stories of abuse, drugs and prostitution. I have seen women getting out of a clients car and buy food with the little cash they have aren&#039;t. These residence cannot afford luxury&#039;s let alone buy things that will help with global warming and the lack of water in our State. It is about time the soon to be elected government brought change to even out the wealth and give these &#039;battlers&#039; some worth. I would love to see unions get involved in social issues and community actions to give back something that the community gave in support of YR@W. My point is how would people of higher means relate to this? How would Richardson and Rishworth (Kingston) even know how the above feels let alone Howard, Rudd , Garrett and co? I can hear people saying &quot;yeah I knew how it felt, I was in that same boat years ago&quot;. The thing is the people of this community haven&#039;t, won&#039;t, can&#039;t get out, and mostly not from lack of trying or from no fault of their own, but rather through social determinants &amp; being forgotten (or more likely- down trodden).

Hi Geoff Although I am not in your electorate or in your party I think you are on the right track with your environmental beliefs. I don&#039;t know what faction you belong too but Gray seems to be of the rightist variety. Good luck Geoff

Bill Weller
Greens for Kingston
AMWU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Veronica can you explain what you mean when you said  &#8220;I think you see the current Labor Party through eyes turned back at several decades ago.&#8221; As for Peter Garrett I love his music and his ideals from those long lost years, but now we have a Government and opposition that are right wing with religious overtones and big business supportive at the expense of the worker, community and THEIR environment. I work in a factory, I live in a working area bordering on a massive unemployment suburb which tears at the heart. Kids with little clothes and if they have it&#8217;s so old that op shops would not sell them. Single mothers in abundance each with horror stories of abuse, drugs and prostitution. I have seen women getting out of a clients car and buy food with the little cash they have aren&#8217;t. These residence cannot afford luxury&#8217;s let alone buy things that will help with global warming and the lack of water in our State. It is about time the soon to be elected government brought change to even out the wealth and give these &#8216;battlers&#8217; some worth. I would love to see unions get involved in social issues and community actions to give back something that the community gave in support of YR@W. My point is how would people of higher means relate to this? How would Richardson and Rishworth (Kingston) even know how the above feels let alone Howard, Rudd , Garrett and co? I can hear people saying &#8220;yeah I knew how it felt, I was in that same boat years ago&#8221;. The thing is the people of this community haven&#8217;t, won&#8217;t, can&#8217;t get out, and mostly not from lack of trying or from no fault of their own, but rather through social determinants &amp; being forgotten (or more likely- down trodden).</p>
<p>Hi Geoff Although I am not in your electorate or in your party I think you are on the right track with your environmental beliefs. I don&#8217;t know what faction you belong too but Gray seems to be of the rightist variety. Good luck Geoff</p>
<p>Bill Weller<br />
Greens for Kingston<br />
AMWU</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Pain</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10626</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The preselection for the seat of Brand will be decided tomorrow night.

The ALP has a stark choice between myself and Gary Gray.

I was an organizer of the Walk Against Warming last November that saw 5000+ concerned Western Australians march through the streets of Perth demanding action to prevent global overheating. Gary Gray is a greenhouse sceptic.

I have been a lifelong campaigner against the uranium industry and have written a review on the effects of &quot;depleted&quot; uranium - the bulk of mined uranium, on current and future generations. My work is a contribution to the global effort to ban uranium in armour-piercing shells that become mutagenic dust.

Gary Gray supports mining of uranium in WA, contrary to Party policy.

I have proposed democratization of the Party by inviting all members of affiliated unions to accept one year free membership of the Party, after which they can choose to opt in as full voting individuals. This would break the power of certain factional leaders and produce a democratic Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The preselection for the seat of Brand will be decided tomorrow night.</p>
<p>The ALP has a stark choice between myself and Gary Gray.</p>
<p>I was an organizer of the Walk Against Warming last November that saw 5000+ concerned Western Australians march through the streets of Perth demanding action to prevent global overheating. Gary Gray is a greenhouse sceptic.</p>
<p>I have been a lifelong campaigner against the uranium industry and have written a review on the effects of &#8220;depleted&#8221; uranium &#8211; the bulk of mined uranium, on current and future generations. My work is a contribution to the global effort to ban uranium in armour-piercing shells that become mutagenic dust.</p>
<p>Gary Gray supports mining of uranium in WA, contrary to Party policy.</p>
<p>I have proposed democratization of the Party by inviting all members of affiliated unions to accept one year free membership of the Party, after which they can choose to opt in as full voting individuals. This would break the power of certain factional leaders and produce a democratic Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica Guy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10624</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Bill Weller, I think you see the current Labor Party through eyes turned back at several decades ago.

Pollies are pollies are pollies. That Garrett has made millions through Midnight Oil and any other means does not indicate his political and philosophical leanings.

He has always wanted to make a difference - through Oil&#039;s lyrics, his public comments etc and now he has got himself into federal politics. He still has enough of his earlier ideals to believe he can make a difference. His personal dosh is of no consequence. What is of consequence is that he is becoming more pragmatist than ideologue. And that happens to all of us as we grow up and weigh our beliefs against reality.

There is no way anyone could call me poor, however neither could anyone call me a right wing conservative. Them&#039;s the breaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Bill Weller, I think you see the current Labor Party through eyes turned back at several decades ago.</p>
<p>Pollies are pollies are pollies. That Garrett has made millions through Midnight Oil and any other means does not indicate his political and philosophical leanings.</p>
<p>He has always wanted to make a difference &#8211; through Oil&#8217;s lyrics, his public comments etc and now he has got himself into federal politics. He still has enough of his earlier ideals to believe he can make a difference. His personal dosh is of no consequence. What is of consequence is that he is becoming more pragmatist than ideologue. And that happens to all of us as we grow up and weigh our beliefs against reality.</p>
<p>There is no way anyone could call me poor, however neither could anyone call me a right wing conservative. Them&#8217;s the breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: blacklight</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10587</link>
		<dc:creator>blacklight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shit was flinged, it splattered back, they are all covered in it.

Federally, in the long rung, the Burke thing will probabbly mean didly squat. WA is not the rest of Australia. We are VERY insular...

Any from both Howard and Rudd its war already.

This will be facinating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shit was flinged, it splattered back, they are all covered in it.</p>
<p>Federally, in the long rung, the Burke thing will probabbly mean didly squat. WA is not the rest of Australia. We are VERY insular&#8230;</p>
<p>Any from both Howard and Rudd its war already.</p>
<p>This will be facinating</p>
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		<title>By: bill weller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10584</link>
		<dc:creator>bill weller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as i have been saying Howard will claw his way back. Looks like 3 more years of a Right wing Lib govt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as i have been saying Howard will claw his way back. Looks like 3 more years of a Right wing Lib govt.</p>
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		<title>By: Psephophile</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10573</link>
		<dc:creator>Psephophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian Campbell&#039;s resignation from the cabinet is disastrous for Rudd. It now sets a precedent that Rudd must distinguish himself from. Whether or not Rudd&#039;s dinner / breakfast / coffee / with Burke was innocent or not, it&#039;s going to start ticking over in people&#039;s minds that if a Govt minister had to quit over a 20 minute meeting with this odious character, then what does this say for Rudd and his rendezvous with Burke?

Anyway, I&#039;m going to go out on a limb and say the Howard knew full well Campbell met with Burke and went ahead savaging Rudd anyway He knew Campbell would find his position untennable, especially after Costello&#039;s remarks that &quot;ANYONE who meets with Burke is morally and politically compromised&quot;,  and so Campbell had no choice but to submit his resignation. This ramped up the pressure on Rudd and damages him further. Poor Campbell was the sacrifical lamb in Howard&#039;s bloodthirsty pursuit of Rudd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Campbell&#8217;s resignation from the cabinet is disastrous for Rudd. It now sets a precedent that Rudd must distinguish himself from. Whether or not Rudd&#8217;s dinner / breakfast / coffee / with Burke was innocent or not, it&#8217;s going to start ticking over in people&#8217;s minds that if a Govt minister had to quit over a 20 minute meeting with this odious character, then what does this say for Rudd and his rendezvous with Burke?</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb and say the Howard knew full well Campbell met with Burke and went ahead savaging Rudd anyway He knew Campbell would find his position untennable, especially after Costello&#8217;s remarks that &#8220;ANYONE who meets with Burke is morally and politically compromised&#8221;,  and so Campbell had no choice but to submit his resignation. This ramped up the pressure on Rudd and damages him further. Poor Campbell was the sacrifical lamb in Howard&#8217;s bloodthirsty pursuit of Rudd.</p>
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		<title>By: coota bulldog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10565</link>
		<dc:creator>coota bulldog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in all the discussion about Burke&#039;s impact on ALP&#039;s vote in the West ignores what happened in the Peel byelection just a few weeks ago.

Remember, Labor got a swing to it in that byelection, after the sitting member was sacked for his connections to Burke. It may look strange on the East Coast, but it appears so far that WA voters have a different approach to Burke/Grill and his links to both sides of the political fence.

The story on Ian Campbell&#039;s meeting with Burke just illustrates that the ALP and Liberal Party have links to the former premier of WA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in all the discussion about Burke&#8217;s impact on ALP&#8217;s vote in the West ignores what happened in the Peel byelection just a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>Remember, Labor got a swing to it in that byelection, after the sitting member was sacked for his connections to Burke. It may look strange on the East Coast, but it appears so far that WA voters have a different approach to Burke/Grill and his links to both sides of the political fence.</p>
<p>The story on Ian Campbell&#8217;s meeting with Burke just illustrates that the ALP and Liberal Party have links to the former premier of WA.</p>
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		<title>By: bill weller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10555</link>
		<dc:creator>bill weller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like this below does not help the ALP cause or am i being too leftist in wondering what millionaires are doing in a workers party. After a poor start by Howard i think he would be saying now GAME ON! 

&gt;From Crikey: Peter Garrett: healthy, wealthy, unwise?
Christian Kerr writes:

Opposition environment spokesman Peter Garrett went on ABC Radio in
Adelaide yesterday to talk about Ron Walker, Robert de Crespigny and
that nuclear power plant â€“ only to suffer some nasty fallout of his own.

&quot;A caller says: &#039;Fairâ€™s fair, weâ€™ve talked about these other
millionaires, and we should mention that Peter Garrett is a millionaire
as well&#039;,&quot; host Matt Abraham said.

Garrett got a little coy about that description â€“ so Abraham and his
colleague David Bevan went nuclear on the Oilâ€™s former front man:

    BEVAN: Are you a millionaire?

    GARRETT: Well, anybody who owns a house in Sydney or around Sydney
    probably qualifies for that but Iâ€™d say Iâ€™m a person of moderate means.

    ABRAHAM: But hasnâ€™t being a rock star made you a millionaire?

    GARRETT: Well, to the extent that Iâ€™ve been able to buy a house and
    live in a comfortable way, yeah, thereâ€™s no question about it that I
    had a successful career as a musician but Iâ€™m a man of moderate means.

    ABRAHAM: Where do you live when youâ€™re in Canberra?

    GARRETT: (laughs)

    ABRAHAM: Are you in a shed like Brendan Nelson?

    GARRETT: Oh, I stay with a mate.

    BEVAN: Okay, but is it correct, putting aside your house, because we
    donâ€™t want to get these things wrong and itâ€™s been thrown around a
    lot, Malcolm Turnbullâ€™s described as a multi-millionaire and people
    ring up I suppose from the conservative side and say &quot;well, hang on,
    what about Peter Garrett?&quot; Peter Garrett, putting aside your house
    which is a moderate house, can we call you a millionaire?

    GARRETT: Well, gentlemen, if you want to you certainly can. I think
    a person of moderate means, not to the extent of Mr Turnbullâ€™s
    wealth, but frankly I donâ€™t think thatâ€™s the key issueâ€¦

    ABRAHAM: But, we donâ€™t want to call you a millionaire if youâ€™re not.

    GARRETT: Well, feel free to call me what you will.

    ABRAHAM: No, wellâ€¦

    BEVAN: Well, weâ€™re just trying to be cooperative.

    ABRAHAM: If you are a millionaire, putting aside the value of your
    house, then youâ€™re a millionaire because as I said Malcolm Turnbull
    and others targeted Kevin Rudd and yourself as being millionaires
    effectively because he was. I just... if youâ€™re not, youâ€™re not, and
    thatâ€™s fine and thatâ€™s the end of it and if you are, you are.

    GARRETT: Yep, and Iâ€™m quite happy to say I am.

    ABRAHAM: Okay, well, Peter Garrett we appreciate you coming on the
    program.

**********************

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s1858712.htm


      Fourth WA minister falls to commission inquiry

Reporter: Hamish Fitzsimmons


KERRY O&#039;BRIEN: And now, to the latest political drama from the West, and
the fall of yet another State Government minister. This afternoon John
Bowler became the fourth minister sacked or demoted from the Carpenter
government in the past year - the third connected to the Brian Burke
scandal - as the Corruption and Crime Commission juggernaut continues to
pound the Government. On Sunday, Environment Minister Tony McRae
resigned over his links with former Labor minister turned lobbyist
Julian Grill, a business partner of Mr Burke&#039;s. Premier Alan Carpenter
was forced to act today after the CCC played tapes of Mr Bowler
discussing sensitive Cabinet information that it secretly recorded at
the home of Mr Grill. By late afternoon, Mr Bowler was dismissed by his
Premier...

John Bowler had been caught on tape talking about a proposed railway
line through an Aboriginal heritage area in the Pilbara. Mr Grill and
his business partner Brian Burke were representing the mining company,
Fortescue Metals, which was proposing the line. Cabinet initially
rejected the railway plan but here Mr Bowler reveals the Aboriginal
Affairs Minister, Sheila McHale, had opted to reverse the decision.

JOHN BOWLER (TAPE): Now, Woodstock Abydos, apparently Carps said he&#039;s
happy in the way it&#039;s going, that although they said, you know, the
decision of the, of that committee, ACMC, Sheila, Sheila understands
that they have to say that and that she will now overturn it.

JULIAN GRILL (TAPE): All right, so if I can just take a note on this, er -

JOHN BOWLER (TAPE): So it&#039;s expected that, um, Sheila will overturn the
ACMC decision.

JULIAN GRILL (TAPE): So Carpenter just told you that, um, Sheila should
overturn the decision?

JOHN BOWLER (TAPE): I think Sheila says that she willâ€¦she will, she will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like this below does not help the ALP cause or am i being too leftist in wondering what millionaires are doing in a workers party. After a poor start by Howard i think he would be saying now GAME ON! </p>
<p>&gt;From Crikey: Peter Garrett: healthy, wealthy, unwise?<br />
Christian Kerr writes:</p>
<p>Opposition environment spokesman Peter Garrett went on ABC Radio in<br />
Adelaide yesterday to talk about Ron Walker, Robert de Crespigny and<br />
that nuclear power plant â€“ only to suffer some nasty fallout of his own.</p>
<p>&#8220;A caller says: &#8216;Fairâ€™s fair, weâ€™ve talked about these other<br />
millionaires, and we should mention that Peter Garrett is a millionaire<br />
as well&#8217;,&#8221; host Matt Abraham said.</p>
<p>Garrett got a little coy about that description â€“ so Abraham and his<br />
colleague David Bevan went nuclear on the Oilâ€™s former front man:</p>
<p>    BEVAN: Are you a millionaire?</p>
<p>    GARRETT: Well, anybody who owns a house in Sydney or around Sydney<br />
    probably qualifies for that but Iâ€™d say Iâ€™m a person of moderate means.</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: But hasnâ€™t being a rock star made you a millionaire?</p>
<p>    GARRETT: Well, to the extent that Iâ€™ve been able to buy a house and<br />
    live in a comfortable way, yeah, thereâ€™s no question about it that I<br />
    had a successful career as a musician but Iâ€™m a man of moderate means.</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: Where do you live when youâ€™re in Canberra?</p>
<p>    GARRETT: (laughs)</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: Are you in a shed like Brendan Nelson?</p>
<p>    GARRETT: Oh, I stay with a mate.</p>
<p>    BEVAN: Okay, but is it correct, putting aside your house, because we<br />
    donâ€™t want to get these things wrong and itâ€™s been thrown around a<br />
    lot, Malcolm Turnbullâ€™s described as a multi-millionaire and people<br />
    ring up I suppose from the conservative side and say &#8220;well, hang on,<br />
    what about Peter Garrett?&#8221; Peter Garrett, putting aside your house<br />
    which is a moderate house, can we call you a millionaire?</p>
<p>    GARRETT: Well, gentlemen, if you want to you certainly can. I think<br />
    a person of moderate means, not to the extent of Mr Turnbullâ€™s<br />
    wealth, but frankly I donâ€™t think thatâ€™s the key issueâ€¦</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: But, we donâ€™t want to call you a millionaire if youâ€™re not.</p>
<p>    GARRETT: Well, feel free to call me what you will.</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: No, wellâ€¦</p>
<p>    BEVAN: Well, weâ€™re just trying to be cooperative.</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: If you are a millionaire, putting aside the value of your<br />
    house, then youâ€™re a millionaire because as I said Malcolm Turnbull<br />
    and others targeted Kevin Rudd and yourself as being millionaires<br />
    effectively because he was. I just&#8230; if youâ€™re not, youâ€™re not, and<br />
    thatâ€™s fine and thatâ€™s the end of it and if you are, you are.</p>
<p>    GARRETT: Yep, and Iâ€™m quite happy to say I am.</p>
<p>    ABRAHAM: Okay, well, Peter Garrett we appreciate you coming on the<br />
    program.</p>
<p>**********************</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s1858712.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s1858712.htm</a></p>
<p>      Fourth WA minister falls to commission inquiry</p>
<p>Reporter: Hamish Fitzsimmons</p>
<p>KERRY O&#8217;BRIEN: And now, to the latest political drama from the West, and<br />
the fall of yet another State Government minister. This afternoon John<br />
Bowler became the fourth minister sacked or demoted from the Carpenter<br />
government in the past year &#8211; the third connected to the Brian Burke<br />
scandal &#8211; as the Corruption and Crime Commission juggernaut continues to<br />
pound the Government. On Sunday, Environment Minister Tony McRae<br />
resigned over his links with former Labor minister turned lobbyist<br />
Julian Grill, a business partner of Mr Burke&#8217;s. Premier Alan Carpenter<br />
was forced to act today after the CCC played tapes of Mr Bowler<br />
discussing sensitive Cabinet information that it secretly recorded at<br />
the home of Mr Grill. By late afternoon, Mr Bowler was dismissed by his<br />
Premier&#8230;</p>
<p>John Bowler had been caught on tape talking about a proposed railway<br />
line through an Aboriginal heritage area in the Pilbara. Mr Grill and<br />
his business partner Brian Burke were representing the mining company,<br />
Fortescue Metals, which was proposing the line. Cabinet initially<br />
rejected the railway plan but here Mr Bowler reveals the Aboriginal<br />
Affairs Minister, Sheila McHale, had opted to reverse the decision.</p>
<p>JOHN BOWLER (TAPE): Now, Woodstock Abydos, apparently Carps said he&#8217;s<br />
happy in the way it&#8217;s going, that although they said, you know, the<br />
decision of the, of that committee, ACMC, Sheila, Sheila understands<br />
that they have to say that and that she will now overturn it.</p>
<p>JULIAN GRILL (TAPE): All right, so if I can just take a note on this, er -</p>
<p>JOHN BOWLER (TAPE): So it&#8217;s expected that, um, Sheila will overturn the<br />
ACMC decision.</p>
<p>JULIAN GRILL (TAPE): So Carpenter just told you that, um, Sheila should<br />
overturn the decision?</p>
<p>JOHN BOWLER (TAPE): I think Sheila says that she willâ€¦she will, she will.</p>
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		<title>By: bill weller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/02/19/idle-speculation-late-february-edition/comment-page-5/#comment-10554</link>
		<dc:creator>bill weller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say the Burke thing is only the start. Its like the tortoise and the hare    Rudd running on full steam, Howard taking it slowly methodically reeling him back in. Like is said before the ALP has peaked to early and unless Rudd and co can keep the pressure up 100 percent then i can see a small Lib win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say the Burke thing is only the start. Its like the tortoise and the hare    Rudd running on full steam, Howard taking it slowly methodically reeling him back in. Like is said before the ALP has peaked to early and unless Rudd and co can keep the pressure up 100 percent then i can see a small Lib win.</p>
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