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Morgan: 60.5-39.5

Today’s Roy Morgan poll suggests that voters have, er, reacted sympathetically to Kevin Rudd’s tax gaffe. Or perhaps been driven insane by the onslaught of government advertising on television. Either way, they’ve published a headline figure of 54 per cent for Labor’s primary vote, which seems to have been enough to have caused their server to crash. More details as they come to hand.

UPDATE: Crikey email reports a two-party split of 60.5-39.5. The Coalition primary vote is down from 39.5 per cent to 36 per cent (for those interested, the Nationals vote is down from 3 per cent to 2.5 per cent). Labor’s primary vote in the previous survey was 49.5 per cent. This was a face-to-face survey with a sample of 972.

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  1. 1
    Lindsay voter
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Wow!!! Made my day but bet it won’t be reported. Incredible!!

  2. 2
    Noocat
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Is this for real?

  3. 3
    Stunkrat
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    What makes the server crap itself is people like you who sit there refreshing the link every 2 seconds.

    And, it must be said, people like me.

  4. 4
    Charlie
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    … so was that leadership issue *really* settled the Tuesday before last, folks?

  5. 5
    nostradamus
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    it is a mistake, morgan has labor 54 on 2pp, which is a coalition win when bias is factored. Dream on hippies/stalinists!

  6. 6
    Blacklight
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    maybe morgan is just playing with us

    hehehehehehe

  7. 7
    Let It End
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Good result. Will be compounded if article in SMH re inflation tipped to top 3.1% is correct. This will definitely put a lot of pressure on Reserve bank to raise interest rates again in November. Kirribilli Coconut may have lost his big gamble in delaying the election.
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/rates-pressure-rises/2007/09/28/11904

  8. 8
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    William did you block my earlier post about Liberal candidates because Mark Maj*wski’s name has the J-word embedded in it, or some other reason?

  9. 9
    Optimist
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Holy moley!
    Hey, I guess this another one of those many “rogue” polls that stubbornly refuse to show a swing back to the Government – January poll anyone?

  10. 10
    Stunkrat
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Still time to make predictions on the TPP – I reckon 61-39.

  11. 11
    Glen
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    One word sums up this result well actually five…

    Weak…seriously weak you guys….

    I am betting the Nat vote is 1% or lower as i made that prediction a week ago…i wonder how low the primaries are for the Libs what about 33% or something along those lines…

    I wouldnt be taking too much out of this poll because we dont know sample size but also if the Coalition had 54% id be calling it bull butter but hey it keeps with the trend i guess that Labor are clearly ahead and the Libs are clearly the underdogs.

  12. 12
    Glen
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Nostro is BACK!

  13. 13
    alpal
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    The Canberra Press Gallery won’t leave this Morgan alone as they usually do. It will be swamped by the GF’s this weekend – but will be prominent enough and linked into the Howard Bennelong story already running in the MSM.

  14. 14
    Pauline
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Lord D in previous thread, the reason Glen still hangs out here, is that his understanding of what is going on is far removed from the harsh political reality out there.

  15. 15
    2353
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    And just as one-eyed as ever.

  16. 16
    Lord D
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    As I said on the other thread, you show courage, Glen, by showing up for disastrous polls.

  17. 17
    Julie
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    9
    Optimist Says:
    September 28th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
    Holy moley!
    Hey, I guess this another one of those many “rogue” polls that stubbornly refuse to show a swing back to the Government – January poll anyone?

    :( ………… Our family is moving in January, if this comes to pass, DH and I will need to do one of those special votes for when you aren’t in your own electorate on polling day. Our move will take place in that instance between close of roll and polling day.

  18. 18
    Optimist
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Glen #11,
    why didn’t you just copy and paste my comment at #9 – would have saved you typing?

  19. 19
    Pat
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Glen: ‘I wouldnt be taking too much out of this poll’. hahahahaha. I bet you aren’t

  20. 20
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Glen we all know Morgan polls are not exactly kosher (can I use that word?), but if you trot out this stupid argument about under-counting the Nationals again, you will merely invite more ridicule.

  21. 21
    Julie
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    19
    Pat Says:
    September 28th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
    Glen: ‘I wouldnt be taking too much out of this poll’. hahahahaha. I bet you aren’t

    There isn’t much for him to take is there? :) :):)

  22. 22
    nostradamus
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    it is a misprint only you leftards would be fooled by – howard will win

  23. 23
    jasmine_Anadyr
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Oh I wish it were true, how do you write up a 54% PRIMARY vote for labor as a definite coalition win …. surely you can’t.

  24. 24
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Adam, you are correct about the nature of my moderation block, which I have now loosened a little.

  25. 25
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Nostro – what about the part that says “Highest under Rudd”?

  26. 26
    Rx
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    William put his finger on it, IMO. People are feeling tormented by the torrent of government advertising. While meanwhile Ratty refuses to call the election to put a stop to the torture and the waste of public money.

    If there is any justice the electorate will emphatically punish the Coalition for this, come election day.

  27. 27
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    OK thanks William – here it is again, although with everone in a Morganatic frenzy, I doubt anyone will care.

    No sooner do I make a sarcastic comment about the NSW Liberals’ missing candidates, than they are announced – most of them anyway.

    * John La Mela, Barton
    * Mark Majewski, Blaxland
    * Lindsay Paterson, Charlton
    * Colin Fowler, Cunningham
    * Daniel Caffery, Grayndler
    * Krysia Walker, Newcastle
    * Lily Arthur, Prospect
    * Ronney Oueik, Reid
    * Philip Mansour, Watson
    * Rose Torossian, Fowler (not at the NSW Libs website yet, but I know she is running)

    Still missing: Banks, Shortland, Sydney and Werriwa, plus Batman and Scullin in Vic.

    If anyone knows any occupational details about these candidates, please let me know. As in the state election, the Lebanese community is obviously the source of last resort for candidates in unwinnable seats (Oueik, Mansour and Torossian).

  28. 28
    Julie
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    10
    Stunkrat Says:
    September 28th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
    Still time to make predictions on the TPP – I reckon 61-39.

    Sounds good to me, the last one was 49.5/56.5 and that was a difference of 7.

  29. 29
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Gary, no doubt the dreaded “Labor soft vote” :-)

  30. 30
    nostradamus
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    therese rein rudd’s hypocrisy in england is labor’s final nail of their electoral coffin and hehehehe har har!!!!!

  31. 31
    nostradamus
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    labor are 54 2pp this poll not primary

  32. 32
    Let It End
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    nostradamus Says:
    September 28th, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    therese rein rudd’s hypocrisy in england is labor’s final nail of their electoral coffin and hehehehe har har!!!!!

    Some seem to have descended from the chimpanzee much later than others.

  33. 33
    James J
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    The last morgan phone was 60/40 with ALP primary @ 51%
    Morgan is an extremely volatile series and the phone polls tend to be inconsistent with other published polls.

  34. 34
    Lord D
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    54% Labor primary will be around 62% 2PP

  35. 35
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Nostra in full swing and denial, good to see.

  36. 36
    Optimist
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    What was the name of that nasty little kid who got de-selected for the Libs in Maribyrnong? Anyone?

  37. 37
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    labor are 54 2pp this poll not primary

    Where does it say that?

  38. 38
    Nostra fan
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Great to see you back Nostra, you really brighten up my day. :)

  39. 39
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Hamish Jones

  40. 40
    John Withheld
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    After all those centuries in a coffin, it’s hardly surprising that he’s a little unhinged.

  41. 41
    Optimist
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Adam, knew you’d be first in.
    Just wondering if Hamish goes by any nicknames……..perhaps Glen or Nortrodamus?

  42. 42
    KT
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    “Morgan is an extremely volatile series and the phone polls tend to be inconsistent with other published polls.”

    Well yes, but it’s so much fun.

  43. 43
    nostradamus
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    hamish jones he was a brilliant officer at melb uni student union a few years back.

  44. 44
    John Withheld
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn @ 37

    Nowhere. It’s wishful thinking.

  45. 45
    Optimist
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    hehehe – I rest my case.

  46. 46
    BxTom
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Let it End @ 32, …and some just haven’t been game to take the leap…

  47. 47
    Kina
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    I do recall making and seeing made predictions that the longer Howard left the election the more people will be convinced to jump ship.

    Nice to have a positive rogue for a change and to dream that it is reality.

  48. 48
    alpal
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Dead right Kina. The longer he leaves it, the worse it will get.

  49. 49
    nostradamus
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    under the golden two term stewardship of scott crawford one of the few half decent guys in labor

  50. 50
    Posted Friday, September 28, 2007 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    They also disendorsed Cam Nation in Gorton after he posted videos of himself roaring drunk on his own website – no doubt he was a whiz in the Young Libs as well.

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