The Australian today brings us a second round of figures from the weekend Newspoll survey. It shows that in spite of everything, the Prime Minister is rated the leader “more capable of handling Australia’s economy” by 48 per cent to Kevin Rudd’s 33 per cent, while Peter Costello leads Wayne Swan as “most capable of managing Australia’s economy as federal treasurer” by 53 per cent to 21 per cent. The Prime Minister is also rated the leader “most capable of keeping interest rates lower”, although his lead over Rudd has narrowed since last month.
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Aristotle, what were Dr. Hewsons ratings as compared to Rudds?
Glen, looks like we share a footy team in common; I also barrack for Melb Demons, but had a disappointing season. I’m very keen on Melb Storm who won the NRL Premiership on Sun night – a fantastic result. Hopefully Labor can have a similar result on the Night of the Returns.
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John Withheld Says:
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Links Julie? Sources? Confirmation? Please?”
I see that Glen got a story here already but this is the one I read on The Age. It might also be noted too that about a week ago, the story was floated that Peter Sumich was being wooed to come to Carlton as an assistant. He was Judd’s position coach for 6 years. This might have had some influence on Judd’s thinking. I do not know if Sumich has actually been signed to the Carlton staff yet or not.
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/judd-chooses-the-blues/2007/10/02/1191091095434.html
Is there any real benefit for Labor winning the election by more than a half a dozen seats?
Lord D it just goes to show people can have things in common despite their political differences…hehehe not only did he give the ‘filth’ the bums rush but he chose a team who plays on Telstra Dome 12 times nice for his groin and has worse facilities than the mighty dees and yet he goes and picks Carlton…far as im concerned Judd is a scumbag who chose a club purely for the $$$ nuff said..
Kina 205#
Except a repeat of 1998 in 2010 that’s what will happen if it is a Ruddslide in 2007.
Thanks Glen and Julie.
Sumich has already re-signed with West Coast.
Judd made no statement about why he dismissed Melbourne, Melbourne said it was because of poor facilities.
Collingwood have a great gym at the Lexus Centre, but a lousy oval.
Carlton’s new gym will be better than Lexus, and they have the best surface in Melbourne at Princes Park.
Kina there is no benefit in Labor winning!
Replace Swanny with Peter Garret isn’t he a Millionaire?
I thought I might share a conversation I had with some small business owners a few days ago…
These people are in the unfortunate position of seeing their new business dry up over the last 6-12 months. Why? People are spending more money on their mortgage payments and petrol. This means less to be spent on goods/services provided by these small businesses. Who do they blame? That’s right, one JW Howard (Who, as they say, talked the talk but couldn’t walk the walk on interest rates).
I was surprised by their animosity in light of Howard’s aim/claim to the be champion of small business. Would be interested to hear others thoughts…
@ 206 nuff said:
Not that what you say is true, but aren’t those the pure tory values by which you think we should all liv?
Matt what were these small business owners selling?
Judd is more of a scumbag John Witheld because he led the Demons, Collingwood, and Essendon on that they had a fair chance of receiving his services and he then chooses to wear the Carlscum jumper next year…while i dont like his decision it was the capitalist thing to do….one must except that if one is a Tory!
There are two Glens. The posts at 186 and198 were not written by the same person. Reminds me of the old Bugs Bunny cartoon. Mornin’, Ralph. Mornin’, Sam. Happened at the change of every shift.
Then, just like the cartoon, everyone else continues to punch the soulcase out of whatever Glen is on shift.
It will be November 24. Called Sunday 21 Oct. ( Parliament will be recalled for one week, w/c 15Oct).
Either that Roy or i am a schizophrenic…take your pick Roy!
John of Melbourne @ 210
They were mainly in the area of home renovation/landscaping
Good-oh, another reason to hate Carlton (I’ve been lacking a really good one since that drunken old swine Elliot retired).
Can we stop the footie crud. Its cricket season now. Its about the future guys.
197-4 38 overs.
Adam, If you are going to call someone a “drunken old swine” then spell their name correctly – its Elliott. He is a friend of mine. He likes a drink, he works hard, he loves Carlton, he is a generous supporter of charity – and is not a swine.
Optimist its pistols at dawn you have insulted my family’s reputation!
Just to keep you from wetting yourself over this just do a simple search on Wikipedia for John Rawls and this website http://pages.pomona.edu/~mjg14747/033-2006/RawlsLiberty.shtml
I didnt think these were things you wouldnt be able to find out easily for yourself Optimist but to make the job easier i thought id lend a hand…technically some parts were revised by myself but i see that you are a stickler for the rules Optimist lol!
Showson 181 said
The other frequently reverts to illogical reasoning, usually based around arguments from authority “God says so so it must be true…â€.
One hears a lot of the same reasoning about climate change issues, except substitute Al Gore, the UN, the IPCC, or the CSIRO for God!!!
“John of Melbourne Says:
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Aristotle, what were Dr. Hewsons ratings as compared to Rudds?”
Not too good, John. He always had a high disapproval.
Nielsen only showed the top raters, but Newspoll have all their ratings and apart from a brief stint in the low 50’s following the launch of “Fightback”, he hung around 40, +/- 5 or so. By the end of 1992, he even collapsed into the 20’s. A bit too divisive John Hewson, I think.
You can check them out here: http://www.newspoll.com.au/
Follow the lnks.
Gee isn’t Hayden in fine form at the moment. Is Channel 9 showing any of these games?
Fox Sports 2 – Rupert does something right.
Poor people i empathise with them.
Have they tried WA they’ll make a killing?
Funny how JWH gets the blame for everything. In relation to interest rates he can’t do anymore he is running a surplus and petrol is set by markets.
Maybe in the new socialism if we get wall to wall Labor Governments Rudd can fix the petrol price.
As a Victorian it hurts me to say it but Brad Hodge needs to be booted from the team…stick in Voges perhaps he can do better caught behind for 3 is not good enough from Hodge…thank god for Symonds!
Elliot is not a swine. He is not fit to carry swill to them either.
Hang on, wayyyy off topic. Ahem.
My next post will be about politics and the coming election.
Thanks Aristotle
The GG is woeful and right wing dribble, the average Australian does not read it, yet sadly they do read the other News Ltd tabloids which are often just as bad and just as poorly researched and written, always catering the the lowest common demonator.
Thankfully for Rudd the vast majority of Austrlians are sick of hearing about Howard and his ‘team’ and they want them gone.
The GG is laughable, it is as if it is being written as a rodent party pick me up, the only people who would believe in what it says.
It is a comedy.
“thank god for Symonds!”
We can always rely on Queenslanders to get Australia back on track.
Re John Withheld:
My next post will be about politics and the coming election.
Sounds like a good idea… hint hint.
Haha maybe I’ll suggest that to them next time, should shore up the Labor support in WA if nothing else
Like Mal Brough Ruawake #235!
John of Melbourne,
Rudd wont fix the petrol price, but will take the pressure of the middle east somewhat which should reduce the jitters. also given that the American election will have more impact on this than any Aust gov could have. Anyone seen any impact on oil prices since the Iran cat came out of the bag?
ruawake @235 You beat me to it
Matt Says: @ 211
{These people are in the unfortunate position of seeing their new business dry up over the last 6-12 months. Why? }
This comes back to what I have said previously. Economics 101!
Every action of Government has an equal and opposite reaction. You take money out of the economy through lowering disposable income through say, workchoices and reduce spending through uncertainty of employment and it will flow throughout the economy.
How? You cut back on the flow of money within the economy because you reduce the amount of money that is available for the multiplier effect. ie; disposable income spent in goods and services provides for more employment in those businesses, more disposable spending from those employees, more tax payed by those employees and businesses and on and on it goes.
Dry that disposable income up and restrict spending through insecurity and increased mortgages and rents, petrol, food and other essentials and you have the makings of a depressive economy.
Peter Costello and John Howard, good economic managers! ha ha ha.
Glen
Longman is lost. My internal polling at the Bribie hamburger joint told me so. 13.5% swing to Labor.
I doubt that Ruawake especially given Brough’s high profile and good press were he not the MP id have said it was on the rocks but i believe Mal will pull it off…do you know how many voters would have to change their minds from last time with a 13.5% we’re talking thousands and thousands of people highly unlikely.
No Matt don’t suggest itWA is Coalition territory only just but it’s Coalition territory. We’ll need that to stave off Rudd.
Rowan I’m sure Rudds gesture of pulling out a few troops will help the situation there. The real issue is when will the Christian US bomb the Mullahs in Iran back to the stone age?
Expect Rudd to send in the SAS for this job if he is PM.
Always love a Bribie hamburger joint poll, they are rarely, if ever, wrong.
Keep up the good work runawake.
Glen and his fellow Libs lovers are living a fantasy world, a very sad disillusioned fantasy world, filled willed little angry ‘teams’ of rodents who spend their days dreaming of ways in which to maintain power while denying the Australian people the oppurtunity to vote them out.
I mean it is so simple, if Howard is so confident that he should be in power let us have the chance to decide, oh wait that’s right, he decides whats right and what is legitamate in Australia.
The swing required at Longman in 6.6%, not 13.5%. My Qld sources agree that Brough is a good member and will be hard to beat, but if there is a big swing on in Qld that might not save him. Longman is prime WorkChoices + interest rates = pissed off voters.
Keating has a letter in the Australian today where he gently chides Glenn Milne for an article he wrote regarding the arts.
Worth a read.
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/letters/index.php/theaustralian/comments/australian_literature_is_outbid_by_rugby_league/
Glen
As a local I may know a little more than you, Brough will not win Longman. I have argued this point before on other threads. There is a major “character” issue that is hurting Brough, it may not be getting too much coverage in the national media but it sure is in the local “freebie” papers.
john of Melbourne,
True the troops pullout wont make much of an impact, but the confrontational aspect of the Bush Howard middle eastern policy will be reduced. And your’e smoking some bad granola if you think Rudd’s going to put any troops at Bush’s disposl in Iran. Bush would have to hate the republican party to do anything there in his last year. He’s a lame duck (in all but dictonary definition) and I would expect the White house to hose the story down in the next few weeks.
runawake, what is the ‘character’ issue?
Is it meaty or just a beat up/rumour?
Am i to assume the ALP have put up a Union official against Mal Brough because if they have they’re already lost it…
Dear me, Brough is just about the only member of the Howard Cabinet with a positive public image at present. They can’t afford to have him besmirched.
Maxine is going well in Bennalong. Howard’s gotta be concerned.
{According to the 2006 census, Bennelong is the only Liberal-held seat among the nation’s top 20 for residents who speak a language other than English at home. Mr Howard holds it by a margin of 4.3 per cent, or fewer than 3500 votes based on the 2004 result and a electoral redistribution.
The initial response yesterday suggested her quest may have been successful. Joshua Khoo, a 22-year-old swinging voter, said he thought the former ABC journalist was “very personable”. “I was taken aback by how real she is,” he said.
Connie Tung, the 2005 recipient of the Premier’s Award for Young Chinese of the Year, said she expected Ms McKew to appeal to younger voters.
“She really took the time to answer questions with heartfelt responses,” Ms Tung said.
Long-term Coalition supporter Jeffrey Lee said Ms McKew “almost makes me want to vote for her”. }
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22509680-11949,00.html
The Labor candidate is Jon Sullivan, former state member for Caboolture and husband of the current member. I don’t know what he did before he was a state member. He has a beard which won’t help him any.
Alpal,
Have you heard anything about Saroff being only 2 points behind Margaret May in McPherson on the latest round of Labor polling?
Incredible if it’s the case.
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