Possum Comitatus informs us of a Taverner poll to be published in tomorrow’s Sun-Herald which will show Labor leading 59-41 in New South Wales and Victoria, and of a Galaxy poll to be published on Monday bringing the Coalition bad news from marginal seats. Taverner conducted electorate-level polling from New South Wales during the 2004 campaign, which proved fairly accurate.
UPDATE: Sun-Herald coverage now available, complete with the remarkable finding that Labor leads 73-27 among 18-29 year olds. No indication of sample size that I can see. While you’re there, have a look at their nifty graphic showing the size of Labor’s majorities as indicated by monthly ACNielsen polling results since June.
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How many bombs can you hide under an Islamic scarf?
One day a terrorist will disguise himself as Santa Claus and then we’ll see if anyone calls for Santa outfits to be banned.
Hilarious Hansard extract #235215363
24th October, 1984
Senator Robert Ray (ALP, Victoria):
I give notice that, on the next day of sitting, I shall move:
That the Senate congratulates the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate Senator Fred Chaney for his achievement of a one per cent poll rating amongst Liberal voters who had been asked who they preferred as Opposition Leader.
http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/view_document.aspx?ID=465510&TABLE=HANSARDS&TARGET=
[“THE Howard Government is considering banning Islamic scarfs at Australian airports, senior government sources have revealed.â€
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22580158-662,00.html
God I will be happy when this racial wedge politics approach to public policy is over.
What a stupid proposal, because as we all know if someone wears a head scarf in an airport they are up to no good.
I doubt the Howard Government would go to the polls with this as proper policy.
If the election is called tomorrow it will die as a story and I think Labor will just ignore it.
How many bombs can you hide under a scarf?
One day a terrorist will disguise himself as Santa Claus and then we’ll see if anyone calls for Santa outfits to be banned.
“Southpark Libertarians” is a more descriptive term, based on a show which mocks authority in any form, at every turn.
Told u it would be a 6 week campaign. Rudd will be all rubbery and gristly after being roasted for this long.
Either it will be announced before Howard calls the election, and thus it will be implemented as government policy. Or if they announce it after Howard calls the election they will need Rudd to agree to it.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22582400-5001021,00.html
By political editor Glenn Milne
October 14, 2007 12:00am
AUSTRALIA will go to the polls on November 24.
Prime Minister John Howard last night flew to Canberra and will visit Governor-General Michael Jeffery at Government House today to seek an election.
It will be a six-week campaign aimed at wearing down Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd.
That seems only consistent, for someone going cap in hand to the electorate.
It seems Howard is still trying hard to blow the racist dog whistle. That’s only one of the reasons why I want to see him thoroughly thrashed at this election.
The Ministry of Racism at it again?
Anti-Asian rehtoric
Drowned boat people
Refugees detention centres
Tampa
Children Overboard
Haneef
Sudanese
This government wouldn’t like to use racism at elections times?
Perhaps Rudd can combat Howard’s wedge with an ace relating to hurting the hip pocket, especially the bogans who drink a lot of beer. Apparently beer in NSW is going to go up due to the costs of barley going up because of the prolonged drought.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22580205-29277,00.html
If you look at the Glenn Milne article and see the picture of John Howard talking to the lady:
My question is where is his right hand and what is he doing with it and saying that is making him and her so happy?
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22582400-5001021,00.html
AND Gillard’s pissed that they are smearing her partner.
Now that has got to be really, really dumb by the Govt [doesnt matter if it come from the press - it will be assumed Govt] especially after the last day of Parliament when Rudd put Australia on notice as to the Howard Govt’s smear tactics – AND there being a dirt file from the Govt on Gillard.
That will be a few more women jumping the good ship Howard.
Here’s the smear campaign against Julia Gillard.
{WOULD-BE deputy prime minister Julia Gillard has lashed “muck-raking” politics for turning up new allegations about her partner’s past.
It is claimed her partner, hair products salesman Tim Mathieson, bombarded a Shepparton woman with hundreds of insulting text messages.
Mathieson denies claims that police were called over his alleged harassment of the woman last year.
And it is claimed Mr Mathieson has admitted to a drink-drive smash, fathering a child as a teen and walking out on a hair salon in which his father invested $30,000.
Yesterday, he and Gillard dubbed the smears “despicable”. }
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22580737-662,00.html
If this is the best that they can come up with, they deserve to be slaughtered at the election.
Howard must have some very interesting photos of Andrews to get him to do things he is. No one would behave like that normally, surely?
It will be interesting as the Govt reverts to type in this election and people get to see in full detail and remember why they want to get rid of them. Remember Burkegate?
I, for one, have never seen in Australia, someone garbed in the ‘niqab or burka’….however misspelt.
An unforgettable and sickening image to me is of the defenceless woman, in burqua, beheaded in public view at a football field.
Capital Punishment defended, anyone? Headscarf, big deal.
Good to see Matt Price back on deck. He’s going to try and carry on through the campaign. Once the thrill of the chase gets in your blood, it’s hard to give up, even when you are not well.
{DURING this excruciatingly protracted election year, John Howard has done to national politics – and his once formidable brand – what the boffins who added cherry flavouring to Coca-Cola in the mid-1980s did for the famous soft drink: it was an expensive, infamous marketing disaster.}
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22581056-5000117,00.html
That’s funny, I clicked on the link to the article Possum 149, and got it.
Just clicked again, page not found. What does that mean?
link is working for me
Possum. Tried again. Link established. Must be other mysterious force.
The liberal bloggers/staffers on news.com.au are playing the, “would you vote for a party that choose Mark Latham as its leader in 2004″ card. Seems a bit desperate.
Re: Wedge Watch. So what are the Gulf Air and Emirates hostesses going to wear?
Maybe I should play the “who would vote for a party that couldn’t get rid of Howard card.”
Good spotting re Matt Price, Scorpio. His article as feisty as usual. On ya, Matt.
Hossen 27 Do you have the link for that blog. I’m feeling particularly belligerent.
Mark #176
here you go. have fun
News.com.au
Merci H27
Why do they want to ban Islamic scarfs?
AND if it is for identification purposes why not say, any face covering, including Islamic, Christian Nun scarfs etc that inhibit identification with passport photos etc but excluding KKK headware.
It is obvioulsy delibetately worded in a provocative wedge manner.
What do they do at Heathrow, the USA etc?
There are other ways in anycase – small little head enclosure, booth or whatever where the scarf can be quickly lifted back to aid ID by, of course, a female Passport officer. Or a line for people with religious headware that goes through an enclosure – women only etc.
Too easy.
Andrews is trying to stir up a fight with the Muslim community so the Govt can play the racism card of course. Andrews and Ruddock must have checked the souls in at Liberal party headquarters when signing up.
What on earth do you have in your wardrobe Kina? When was the last time you saw someone wearing a KKK hood in public?
The christian nun scarves that I have seen do not hide the face and neck.
The muslim head coverings in many cases do conceal the identity of the wearer.
And you never know what they are hiding under the rest of the outfit.
The female muslim costume is a favourite outfit of teenage male muslim terrorist suicide bombers.
Ruddock will retire after this election. Andrews is Ruddock-in-training.
Well if it is for security purposes what do other international airports do?
It still doesn’t excuse the way it is worded. It is directed at Muslims rather than a law against coverings that inhibit identification.
I am wondering if there shouldn’t be letters to the editor asking the Muslim community and other minority groups to avoid argument, confrontation and dispute with the government during the election campaign, unless of course they want to aid the Govt’s re-election.
All this talk of narrowing – I was a believer in it before I read Possum’s excellent entry on it.
But I reckon even believers in narrowing shouldn’t be talking about it yet. Surely the theory about narrowing is that, as the election approaches, the prospect of the alternative PM becoming PM becomes all too real for those voters most nervous about the unknown.
I would have thought that its effect – if there is any- would be expected after the official campaign begins, and probably at least a week into the campaign, once the reality and proximity of an election gains some traction.
Either way, I hope there’s no narrowing. Not that it matters for me – it’s unlikely my MP, Julie Bishop, would be ousted.
For the schoolies, uni students, anyone working or away on election day can Pre-Poll at AEC locations. It’s a Declaration vote placed in a sealed envelope. You need Electoral ID card or Driving licence or Passport.
Will update with details and locations when they are available
# 180 Nafe Says: October 14th, 2007 at 2:50 am
Oh really? Where did you read that? Piers Ackerman? Here’s me thinking that Australia never has had a muslim terrorist act. And I’m thinkin the Bali bomb wasn’t planted by some chick hiding behind a muslim outfit. Care to provide some proof of that statement of yours?
So what we’re really talking about is just you inventing stuff up in order to create a division that currently doesn’t exist, in order to capitalize on the division after it has been created.
No the favourite outfit for suicide bombers (at least for a while) was to dress up as Hassidic Jews and cross the border into Israel.
This is absolute crap. You can’t hide from metal detectors and sniffer dogs. Why just the airport? Why not everywhere? Crap.
“The female muslim costume is a favourite outfit of teenage male muslim terrorist suicide bombers.” Indeed it is but they can never decide on the right shoes to go with it.
Oh and when was the last (and that would also be the first) suicide bomber in Australia. More crap.
re Muslims, headscarves, airports, etc.
I agree with Howard on this one. No half measures against terrorism.
Indeed, if Howard is fair dinkum on protecting Australians from terror he should immediately announce a ban on any Australian departing flights to any airports to any airports that are lax enough to put innocent people at risk this way.
Of course, this means none of you is ever likely to see Europe again, much less the Middle East, but I can assure you that Japan is a lovely place, as is New Zealand. And PNG. (I assume you’re still allowed to go there.)
VoterBoy.
Happily ensconced in the UK.
Land of the Free, Home of the Headscarf (google Hilda Ogden/Coronation Street, and you’ll know what terror means)
From the Perth Telethon Blog.
http://blogs.news.com.au/perthnow/overthefence/index.php/perthnow/comments/telethon_as_it_happens/
If Tavener, Galaxy and Newspoll all show similar results can we say that the voters have given John Howard a triple bypass.
Bahahahahahaaa!
The Herald Sun has “NOVEMBER 24TH” in massive numbers on its home page – going to look a little silly if its called for another date!!!
Also, Matt Price contributes a short piece – hopefully a sign he is getting better.
And, surprise, surprise, Ackerman is silent on Howard’s discovery of symbolic reconciliation.
Another good poll for the ALP. Let’s hope the 42nd Parliament is one that will bring hope to us all. Just imagine…
By His Excellency’s Command
Kevin Rudd
Prime Minister
Peter Jensen is having a bit of an Each Way Bet.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/14/2058955.htm?section=justin
I haven’t seen Akerman ‘write’ a piece on the government or the Liberal Party for quite a while now. (Except to try to deny there were leadership tensions around the time of APEC) His obsession is trying to bring down the Opposition.
If Labor wins the election, what will people like him do? Rediscover the journalistic imperative of investigating and criticising the government of the day? That’ll be a change for porky Piers!
I can’t see him continuing in his present role of Opposition kicker if the Opposition becomes the Coalition.
Maybe he will just retire with a broken heart and spend time trying to console himself with cream buns and doughnuts.
Try reading this with a straight face:
“JULIA Gillard’s partner, hair products salesman Tim Mathieson, has a love child from a teen relationship and was involved in a drink-driving accident six years ago.”
OMG Guys! I never knew that! I’m definately voting Liberal now! Tony Abbot’s love child that wasn’t his was much funnier though…
On the discussion about schoolies, uni students etc. – Victorian elections are now always held at this time of year. Main impact for election-watchers is that it eliminates the traditional conservative advantage in postals and pre-polls (at other times of year these are disproportionately from the elderly) – so you can’t assume that seats that are knife-edge on the night will go to the Coalition as you usually can. The Greens also do well out of pre-polls and postals in November elections.
Good morning Poll Bludgers. I’ve been lurking here for yonks and do enjoy reading your posts and the info contained in them. Like most of you, I’m hoping for a big labor win. I have never voted for Howard having sussed out his bigoted far right ideology back in the years when he was Fraser’s Treasurer. Do you think I may be correct in thinking that Howard’s demise will be caused because the small ‘l’ libs are hell bent on getting their party back from the extreme right element?
Get your tv tuned to Sky News folks even if you mute the sound or check in on it by channel switching from another program. They have had a dual screen since at least 6am with one camera focused exclusively on the gates at the GG residence. They will leave the studio to go that camera as soon as the PM’s car rolls into view.
Hi Janice and welcome!
As for your theory on ’small l’ Liberals… only time will tell. Although I do even know plenty of Lib staffers for moderate Lib MPs are saying even they are considering voting Greens at this election, I suspect when push comes to shove a fair portion of them will head back to the Coalition.
We can only hope though. I suspect this election will be a amazing to watch, any way it goes down. Either, the demise of a PM everyone thought was a bound for certain victory a year ago, or the question of why the polls got it so wrong.
Possum’s right re the oldies demograph. It’s the only one not yet in a Labor majority, but 49 still represents a very big swing. And I’d say it’s pretty much down to Workchoices.
If you’ll pardon the anecdotal evidence of a cabbie (albeit an atypical one who listens mainly to Classic-FM, RN, and Jon Faine rather than Lawsie and co), I do a lot of work with folks to and from the retirement villages (pretty strong growth area in Warrnambool, BTW). Invariably they’re friendly, agreeable people who don’t touch on politics, probably for fear of offending. But there’s almost universal loathing and fear about Workchoices. I don’t think it can be all Labor-voting and unionist retirees, even though Warrnambool has a very interesting past with worker equity in Fletcher Jones.
As to Victoria, I think there is something in the Judith Brett Lib analysis. Victoria has a long tradition of Liberal patrician fairness. Howard has torn away that base. How it pans out is anyone’s guess, but it is not good for the Libs.
I suspect this is about to become the longest 6 weeks of our lives.
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