The Australian has published a follow-up to its weekend Newspoll survey, showing issues rated most important and the party considered best equipped to handle them. Labor holds handsome leads on six of the eight listed issues, the exceptions being the economy and national security. Interestingly, the Coalition’s score on industrial relations has increased to 34 per cent from 31 per cent at the previous survey in June, after hovering around 30 per cent since the beginning of 2006. Industrial relations is also the one issue where there was no appreciable shift to Labor when Kevin Rudd became leader. The other issue to run against the overall trend is national security – it surged to Labor as strongly as any other when Rudd took over, but the Coalition has since recovered to levels near those of the Beazley era.
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Wishful thinking Glen.
Sounds narky today. Must have been hot in the chicken suit.
Glen, as both you and I know – smear campaigns work. The Coalition used it to great effect federally in 2004 and the NSW Labor Party used it to great effect this year.
The problem for the Coalition is that Labor has had practice with attack ads from the NSW State Election and would have been honing them to perfection over the past few months. By delaying the release of them, Labor can go into the debate on Sunday claiming that they have tried to be positive whilst the Coalition have been negative.
However, I think the Coalition have fired their biggest shots of the campaign already (both in terms of policies and ads). I hope for your sake that they work, coz otherwise you guys are going to be utterly stuffed…
Lose the election please @ 4.09pm “People don’t hate Howard”. aaahahaha. Even Howard knows that people loathe him.
What about Howard telling Rudd to grow up??? LOL The ad is ingenius.
Yes Howard and Costello are becoming more shrill, as are their loyalists on here. It is only week 1 and already the pressure is getting to them, I doubt Howard will last the campaign.
There is no doubt Rudd is getting under Howard’s skin.
But Rudd is a coward and he wont face Howard on Sunday because he knows if he does he wont get the 2 others he wants!!
Labor have had a negative campaign from day one, trashing everything the Howard Government has done and trying to start a fear campaign on workchoices Mark II…this is how Labor wants to win using fear and smear and it will backfire for Saint Krudd.
“What about Howard telling Rudd to grow up??? LOL The ad is ingenius.” Centre which ad do u refer?
Bahhahahahahahahahaha Glen, that’s pure gold! Please post something in a similar tone on the evening of November 24th and I’ll try and make sure I haven’t had too many celebratory drinks by then not to remember to tune in to Tantrum TV!!!
Glen said “at least our ads are factual with 70% of a Rudd ministry being Union affiliated either as members or officials that”
and lied through his teeth when writing it. The liberal ads say they are all Bosses.
PJK the ads say Union Officials which means union affliated/members/bosses/secretary’s ect the lot!
better luck next time mate!
glen, i’m worried you’re not taking your medication.
Labor’s $1.5 billion upgrade of the Ipswich motorway today is probably the biggest vote mover.
Even Bruce Flegg – Liberal leader in Qld agrees it is a better plan than John Howard’s
Howard’s an odd one. He calls a six week election and then stomps around demanding that everything – tax policy, debates, etc, happens in the first week. What are we meant to do for the next five weeks? Sit around looking at our watches?
Glen,
I can bet my bottom dollar that Rudd will be there on Sunday – it would be idiotic not to be there and give Howard 90 minutes on national TV to rant and rave about the dangers of voting Labor. I have become more convinced of this now that Channel 9 are using the worm for the debate.
And Glen, this is politics – it’s dirty and dangerous and there’s no better exponent of this than Howard. So if you’re going to complain about a Labor smear campaign, I have one thing to say to you:
Harden the f*** up!!!
No 559
Instead of ad hominem attacks, substance please.
Qld has a Liberal leader?
There’s a song from yonks ago by Melanie: “Lay down, Lay down (Candles in the Rain”.) Always liked that …
I don’t care what the tories say Rudd has to answer the negative ads. He is doing it beautifully. The fact that Howard is responding and trying to say they are not negative shows Rudd’s tactics are working already. One guest on Agenda suggested it makes Rudd seem as though he has a glass jaw. That criticism (the glass jaw) is known by those who study politics closely but the average person is not aware of it.
ruawake @ 560,
Do you have a link to the comment from Flegg?
The Ipswich motorway upgrade is a Billion dollars cheaper than Howard’s plan too. By the end of the week at this rate Rudd will have saved more than the cost of the Tory tax cuts.
Glen, you sound like you’re about to have a bit of a cry mate. Take some time to compose yourself & remember, it’s just politics. Like life, it doesn’t revolve around what you think is fair.
Just shows SL that Labor are hypocrites for attacking our negative ads yet Rudd has defined his campaign as a negative smear eats babies campaign about the re-election of Howard…so much for Rudd ending the blame game so much for Rudd staying positive…Rudd=hypocrite…
Is someone else using Glen’s log-in? (is this possible on this site?)
“PJK the ads say Union Officials which means union affliated/members/bosses/secretary’s ect the lot!”
Affiliated/members/junior employees are not by any definition of the term officials (ie someone vested with authority).
Are you a Liberal Party official?
Rudd seems to be getting under Glen’s skin too. Personally I would leave howard to it on sunday night. He might have the rusted ons watching but the rest will flock to other channels. All Rudd has to do is explain his approach to the debates. Howard needs these debates more than Rudd does.
Rudd has done extremely well to use the libs smear to show how negative they are and then add his own positive message as comparison. Great strategy there and it is working.
Where are all the right-wing trolls today? I thought they’d all come out of hiding when the election was called. So far on this thread it’s just the two stalwarts ESJ and Glen – plus someone called rcandelori (he or she’s just as funny as ESJ and Glen, though)
But where are the others such Nostradamus, Cerdic Conan and Steven Kaye? I do need a good laugh, as I haven’t heard from them for ages
Perhaps they’re all very busy on the phone or online at the local Liberal Party electorate HQ placing large bets on the Coalition winning, or writing letters to the GG in support of the Rodent and the Smirk.
http://www.kevin07.com.au/get-involved/sign-a-petition/worm.html
SAVE THE WORM
Who says im not a National Party official?
lol bahahahah
Drunken Tory Sailors?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/coalition-to-trump-labors-seq-roads-plan/2007/10/17/1192300840039.html
Glen,
Politics isn’t a game for the morally pure. Sure, it’s hypocritical from Rudd to attack Howard’s attack ads before using his own.
But does the average voter care? I think not. Rudd’s message about Howard having the “mother of all scare campaigns” has resonated. When a Coalition attack ad comes up, people roll their eyes. When Rudd’s response ads come up soon afterwards, they agree with Rudd and pay attention. But when an anti-Workchoices ad comes up, they also nod with agreement.
This, unfortunately for you, is the current situation. Howard may cry “grow up” and you may moan about the hypocrisy of it all, but it doesn’t change anything. Smear campaigns work – and Labor’s got the better smear campaign this time around…
Let It End @533
That’s been my feeling since the campaign began: Howard is under enormous pressure, the prospects look bleak … could be a case of the spirit willing, but the flesh weak. I also get the feeling he’s really miffed at being forced to share the limelight with “Peter”. Stress can hit the best of us …
quick aside
a few posters here have been wondering who the voice over man is for the Libs attack ads
answer:the EB bagman LOL
Zander you are right (about Cook) after the Touke preselection debacle they are playing it safe. Particularly with Scott Morrison…he’s a nice white boy. Even saw him out on the hustings with UNSW rugby shirt (non-player of course). The Libs were livid when they couldn’t get Graham Annersley up in Miranda in the State election. I used to love thumping UNSW.
572 Glen – can anyone make sense of this? Please explain!!
re Glen @ 5.19 pm. Glen I have just read your comment. Mate are you serious!
Guys could you provide the links of the pause button ads to Glen.
Glen, enjoy.
But SL Rudd has shown quite clearly that he has a glass jaw ads that attack his inexperience are not smear they are merely informing the people of Rudd’s complete lack of experience and him not being fit for PM…Rudd has wasted lots of $$ to try and counter our ads and the more he does this all we have to do is bring out ads saying Rudd has a glass jaw…you dont see Howard or Costello appearing in Ads because Labor have attacked them…they can take abuse your fairy boy Rudd cant plain and simple…
581 Swing Lowe – spot on.
Glen @ 579 “Who says im (sic) not a National Party official?”
You are computer literate (barely). So you can’t be a National.
“The Labor Party has delivered a policy that will return control of industrial relations in this country to the union bosses. They have put union power ahead of workers’ jobs.” Howard – Vic Lib Council
“Will the interests of the Australian people be better served by having the trade union bosses back in town?” Howard – NSW Council speech
“This is a tricky and deceitful campaign by the union bosses to get Kevin Rudd into the Lodge” – Hockey
“Targeting the nation’s 1.9 million small business operators, the pamphlet features photos of Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union West Australian secretary Kevin Reynolds and his deputy, Joe McDonald. It says Kevin Rudd’s policies will give “militant†union bosses “more powerâ€,
Liberal pamphlet quoted
“The Labor billboard lampoons a Liberal advertisement that claims 70 per cent of Labor’s frontbench are union bosses.” Australia – oct 12
“”Gone out of business because of union bosses”. BCA ad
“And this is the pattern of behaviour from the Labor Party and the union bosses, they’re trying to sneak their way into government and you can’t get away with that because Australian people will start to focus on what these union bosses and what the Labor Party stand for” Hockey again.
And finally – look at the ad at the bottom of http://www.liberal.org.au/info/multimedia/detail/20071017_HowManyUnionOfficials.php
Oh yes – 70% Bosses….Liberals – Going for lying..
572 Glen – can anyone make sense of this? Please explain!!
It means the chicken suit was too hot, the medication ain’t working and his side is losing badly and the narrowing hasn’t happened along with no bounce for all the genius displayed so far.
PJK, that’s some pretty good research there!
Glen …”you dont see Howard or Costello appearing in Ads”
Good point Glen, they are not on any of the postal material either, are the libs ashamed of them?
It is quite obvious to me that the trolling element is setting out to sidetrack and devalue this site with their tripe and inanity, hoping that it will lead to its closure.
This will leave the field open only to MSM, with its close, incestous relationship to the neoconservatives.
It is no coincidence, (indeed I am amazed at their blatent transparency) that the same troll names are posting on this site now as posted previously on the Ozpolitics blog site, leading to its closure.
Despots need control of information, and the current crop have lost that contol as a result of sites such as this.That is the raison de etre of the trolls; to make this site meaningless as a source of information. By responding to them, we assist them.
Again, please ignore them.
PJK i have downloaded the ad and it says
Union Officials
Anti-Business Union Officials
Unionist
The only time is mentions Union boss was in reference to Joe McDonald saying we’re coming back…
Stop spreading your lies PJK…
I so loadth Howard that even if during the debate (if there is one), Rudd stumbles, mumbles, squares, curses, farts …
I’m still vote down Howard at the booth.
Liberal – “Go for booted”
Glen,
How well do you think ads saying that Rudd has a “glass jaw” will go down in the electorate? Will people believe them, particularly as they will be coming from the Coalition, who would have, by then, spent 2 or 3 weeks constantly running negative ads against him?
People aren’t mugs, Glen – they won’t believe everything the Coalition says. People like Rudd (witness his stratospheric approval ratings all year) – everytime you attack Rudd, it annoys those people who like Rudd.
Which leads me to my last point. In politics, perception = reality. If the perception is that Howard spends all his time attacking Rudd, then that becomes the “electoral” reality. Similarly, if Rudd is perceived as a nice guy who is being unfairly attacked, that will also be the “reality”. As you may note, both of the above “realities” favour Labor – a problem for you and the Coalition.
“I’m just hoping this election campaign exposes those truly biased sectinos of the media for what they really are.”
Well, as I was saying earlier, the disconnection between media hype over the government’s tax cuts and the ACTUAL in-the-pocket cash for individuals and families has already started to reveal the sections of the media who are campaigning for a coalition victory.
My take on the slogans…
‘Go for broke’ lol
‘Union leadership’ lol
And what’s more – that ad on the liberal site even has Gillard as a Boss! No wonder they have tried to tone it down on TV since they couldn’t get with lying any more….
Liberal -Really Going for Lying too much.
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