Comments on: Newspoll issues survey

By: Been There

Been There — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:25:23 +0000

Crispy 809,

Thanks for the reference, which I already have in my archives, but thanks anyway.
Iâ€™m sorry if I offended a scientist or two with the Goebels quote, definitely not my intention. I donâ€™t believe a true scientist would ever stoop to propaganda!

While accepting that carbon dioxide and other gases have a heat absorption effect, and that burning fossil fuels certainly increases the atmospheric carbon dioxide level, I think Arrhenius and Callendar got the magnitude wrong. If not, the 30% increase in CO2 since 1940 should have increased temperatures by more than 1.2 â€“ 1.5 degrees C (the absorption effect is after all logarithmic so the effect should get less proportionately as the amount of CO2 increase).
Personally I think the models are still far too crude, finding it essentially impossible to accurately account for the effect of higher cloud formation as temperature increases and more water is evaporated from the oceans. The extent to which the cooling effect or more cloud cover offsets the blanketing effect of the â€œgreenhouse gasesâ€ is a big unknown and demands a large research effort. I think this should be done before potentially wasting enormous amounts of capital on something which may prove much less of a problem than many people believe.

Iâ€™ve posted this on last nightâ€™s thread so as not to contaminate the current thread with off the subject matter.

By: Burgey

Burgey — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:13:47 +0000

How to overcome the anti-union ads 101:

Picture an ad with all of the following:

Brant Webb, Tod Russell and Bernie Banton all extolling how, when they were at the lowest ebb (in the case of Beaconsfield, a literal low), the unions were there to lend a helping hand, how they worked with managmeent at the mine, and how without the unions Hardies would have gotten off scot-free leaving asbestos victims with no cabbage into the future.

Game over.

By: Enemy Combatant

Enemy Combatant — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:28:43 +0000

“Sorry William, Iâ€™ve had a big day and have difficulty keeping up with all the posts and links as well as trying to follow the fast moving political commentary.”

Hmmmm. Perhaps the new government should hold an inquiry into Bludger fatigue.

By: Michel de Nostredame

Michel de Nostredame — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:01:58 +0000

Let it End and Julie – A vote for The Greens in the HoR is important too. Local Greens Groups where all members get to participate and create and decide policy derive most of their campaign funds out of lower house votes through election funding. Compare and contrast this with the ALP who accept funding not only from Unions but also from donors like the Hotel Industry and Richard Pratt.

By: Scorpio

Scorpio — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:23:10 +0000

Sorry William, I’ve had a big day and have difficulty keeping up with all the posts and links as well as trying to follow the fast moving political commentary.

See my post at 867. I think I should hit the cot too.

By: Crikey Whitey

Crikey Whitey — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:19:25 +0000

Oh, okay Scorpio. No problem. Thank you. And William.

By: Crikey Whitey

Crikey Whitey — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:15:43 +0000

William, I have no idea. Most upsetting. Crossed posts, perhaps? Golly. Misunderstood. Not to get too frayed this early in the campaign. Think I at least will have a sleep. Will look out before to see if Scorpio is okay. Otherwise, night night.

By: Scorpio

Scorpio — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:15:36 +0000

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Crikey Whitey Says:
October 18th, 2007 at 12:16 am
Yes, actually.The later day saint should visit the earlier blogs on this forum, rather than wasting anyoneâ€™s time or energy on re examining this now ancient tax story.}

I think I owe you an apology CW. I missed the last few words and thought you were having a go at me for wasting other peoples time because I got on late and wondered if others had done the online poll.

I had a rather unpleasant experience a while back with Julie trying to equate the Latter Day Saints with the EB as I consider a persons Religion should not be slandered in the manner that she did.

They are not a cult, they vote and they don’t interfere in politics.

By: William Bowe

William Bowe — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:03:11 +0000

What the hell happened then, Scorpio?

By: Crikey Whitey

Crikey Whitey — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:56:24 +0000

Pardon, Scorpio? I am most certainly not referring to you, if that is what you mean. Read Edward.