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	<title>Comments on: Westpoll: Liberals lead in Perth marginals</title>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-75440</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well lets just take a look at labor with truth not spin , ok gillard comes out today in the telegraph (but not published by the abc ontv or channel 10/ 7 ,of course they are in cahoots ) and puts on the sad story of how she was conned by her union boyfriend to setting up accounts to put stoled funds in which by the way by her own admission ,recieved by threatening the people concerned with industrial action ,well if you believe she didnt know what he was up to when she was that close to him you would believe anything ,next we have the wa union guy coming out and saying gillard and rudd lied and made a deal for 400,000 ,well he should know he is one of their cronnies ,then we have the tapes in the vic police scandal that has also implicated bracks ,and a hitman ,and the union boss who tells just how they really run things .well after reading that and there is more to come ,the picture is very clear about unions ,gillard ,and spin doctor  rudd ! add to that rudd voted against all the policies that he now agrees with ,which wont matter anyway as the union has already made the deals on policies according to them ,so what a joke this is to run a goverment ,and if your still a little unsure about labor ability lookat nsw ,is there a bigger mess ? i dont think so !and gillard to run industrial relations is an even bigger joke going on her own past performance .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well lets just take a look at labor with truth not spin , ok gillard comes out today in the telegraph (but not published by the abc ontv or channel 10/ 7 ,of course they are in cahoots ) and puts on the sad story of how she was conned by her union boyfriend to setting up accounts to put stoled funds in which by the way by her own admission ,recieved by threatening the people concerned with industrial action ,well if you believe she didnt know what he was up to when she was that close to him you would believe anything ,next we have the wa union guy coming out and saying gillard and rudd lied and made a deal for 400,000 ,well he should know he is one of their cronnies ,then we have the tapes in the vic police scandal that has also implicated bracks ,and a hitman ,and the union boss who tells just how they really run things .well after reading that and there is more to come ,the picture is very clear about unions ,gillard ,and spin doctor  rudd ! add to that rudd voted against all the policies that he now agrees with ,which wont matter anyway as the union has already made the deals on policies according to them ,so what a joke this is to run a goverment ,and if your still a little unsure about labor ability lookat nsw ,is there a bigger mess ? i dont think so !and gillard to run industrial relations is an even bigger joke going on her own past performance .</p>
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		<title>By: Don Wigan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-60375</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Wigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[we arenâ€™t irresponsible fiscal managers like the ALPâ€¦] Glen

LOL! The Mersey Hospital Pork showed us all about Liberal &quot;responsible fiscal management&quot;.  Though you&#039;re right, it&#039;s not like ALP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[we arenâ€™t irresponsible fiscal managers like the ALPâ€¦] Glen</p>
<p>LOL! The Mersey Hospital Pork showed us all about Liberal &#8220;responsible fiscal management&#8221;.  Though you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s not like ALP.</p>
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		<title>By: Greeensborough Growler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-60316</link>
		<dc:creator>Greeensborough Growler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW,

All this nasal gazing and you will really get up my nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW,</p>
<p>All this nasal gazing and you will really get up my nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryano</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-60157</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahah! Curtin is not going red, the Libs could put an old world monkey on the ballot and still get over the line there. 
Another drop of Chardonnay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahah! Curtin is not going red, the Libs could put an old world monkey on the ballot and still get over the line there.<br />
Another drop of Chardonnay?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Wigan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-60114</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Wigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>55 Oakeshott

I think there&#039;s probably a reasonable explanation.  The Oz no doubt intended to run with Steven Kaye&#039;s report, but somehow it got mixed up with the SMH one.

Steven, I think they need you soon back at Lib H/Q to re-interpret their internal polling.  Morale and all that.

Still, nice to have you here for a little while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55 Oakeshott</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s probably a reasonable explanation.  The Oz no doubt intended to run with Steven Kaye&#8217;s report, but somehow it got mixed up with the SMH one.</p>
<p>Steven, I think they need you soon back at Lib H/Q to re-interpret their internal polling.  Morale and all that.</p>
<p>Still, nice to have you here for a little while.</p>
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		<title>By: ifonly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-60055</link>
		<dc:creator>ifonly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To complain that seats are not following the state trend is like complaining that states are not following the national trend.

In elections, each party tries to paint itself and its opponents in certain light.

The coalition is painting Rudd as L plate, &quot;Me to&quot; and Union controlled.

Rudd failed his first big decision, he has been saying for months he had a tax plan that he was going to release in the election. Instead of going with whatever that plan was, he went &quot;me to&quot;......reinforcing the Coalition&#039;s positioning of him.

He can&#039;t really counter the L plate
He has failed to counter the union control
His adds say he has a plan without details


I suspect the Coalition will have another big announcement next week eg health. If he responds with &#039;me too&quot; he is gone. Comedians are already joking about it and there is a risk that it becomes how people view him.

Also, Labor needs to characterise the Coalition in a certain light. 

Recent polls tend to support the idea of Labor &quot;soft vote&quot; but time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To complain that seats are not following the state trend is like complaining that states are not following the national trend.</p>
<p>In elections, each party tries to paint itself and its opponents in certain light.</p>
<p>The coalition is painting Rudd as L plate, &#8220;Me to&#8221; and Union controlled.</p>
<p>Rudd failed his first big decision, he has been saying for months he had a tax plan that he was going to release in the election. Instead of going with whatever that plan was, he went &#8220;me to&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;reinforcing the Coalition&#8217;s positioning of him.</p>
<p>He can&#8217;t really counter the L plate<br />
He has failed to counter the union control<br />
His adds say he has a plan without details</p>
<p>I suspect the Coalition will have another big announcement next week eg health. If he responds with &#8216;me too&#8221; he is gone. Comedians are already joking about it and there is a risk that it becomes how people view him.</p>
<p>Also, Labor needs to characterise the Coalition in a certain light. </p>
<p>Recent polls tend to support the idea of Labor &#8220;soft vote&#8221; but time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Bruce</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-59959</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbcity - right on the money. It&#039;s called strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbcity &#8211; right on the money. It&#8217;s called strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Quinlivan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-59951</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Quinlivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curtin .... despite it&#039;s name this seat is not likely to vote  labor ever
maybe a good independent candidate in the right circumstances  could
win...... Nedlands &amp; Peppermint Grove are  like  Sydney&#039;s  Double Bay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtin &#8230;. despite it&#8217;s name this seat is not likely to vote  labor ever<br />
maybe a good independent candidate in the right circumstances  could<br />
win&#8230;&#8230; Nedlands &amp; Peppermint Grove are  like  Sydney&#8217;s  Double Bay</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/10/20/westpoll-liberals-lead-in-perth-marginals/comment-page-6/#comment-59933</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; #282

Curtin falling okay this will be filed under wishful thinking or nasal gazing.&quot;

&#039;nasal gazing&#039;? Is that what NostrilDamus does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; #282</p>
<p>Curtin falling okay this will be filed under wishful thinking or nasal gazing.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;nasal gazing&#8217;? Is that what NostrilDamus does?</p>
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		<title>By: Melbcity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melbcity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to maximise your campaign dollar the earl;y weeks are fort on the ground in the electorate.  There is no real again in the first week of an campiagne the momentum build up with most undecided swinging voters deciding which way they will vote in the last two weeks of then campaign.  you let the government come out with what you expect them to say..  &quot;We are doing well. look at the record on the board, why risk the unknown&quot;.. &quot;blah blah blah&quot;.. by the end of the second week the government is looking tied,.  The opposition comes out with the rebuttal and by the time the government responds the message is out there and the government is on the back foot.  Then comes the knockout blow in the last weeks.  Problem with Latham was he never really came out fighting and had nothing left in the last week where the match was decided.

If the opposition come out too strong then they become the target  not the government.  A long haul distance runner does not use up all their energy in the first Km, They wait for the pace to be set by their competition then they keep pace and when they tire then pump out the extra energy to strive forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to maximise your campaign dollar the earl;y weeks are fort on the ground in the electorate.  There is no real again in the first week of an campiagne the momentum build up with most undecided swinging voters deciding which way they will vote in the last two weeks of then campaign.  you let the government come out with what you expect them to say..  &#8220;We are doing well. look at the record on the board, why risk the unknown&#8221;.. &#8220;blah blah blah&#8221;.. by the end of the second week the government is looking tied,.  The opposition comes out with the rebuttal and by the time the government responds the message is out there and the government is on the back foot.  Then comes the knockout blow in the last weeks.  Problem with Latham was he never really came out fighting and had nothing left in the last week where the match was decided.</p>
<p>If the opposition come out too strong then they become the target  not the government.  A long haul distance runner does not use up all their energy in the first Km, They wait for the pace to be set by their competition then they keep pace and when they tire then pump out the extra energy to strive forward.</p>
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