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Newspoll: 58-42

Tasmanian reader Econocrat tells of a stunning Newspoll result foreshadowed on tonight’s Lateline: 58-42 to Labor. More to follow …

UPDATE: Kevin Rudd’s lead as preferred prime minister has increased to 50 per cent to 37 per cent. Like the two-party figure, this is a 2 per cent change in either direction from last week. Preliminary reports at Sky News and The Australian.

UPDATE 2: Graphic here, Dennis Shanahan here. Kevin Rudd’s satisfaction rating has recovered three points after a dip last week; the Coalition’s lead on the question of best party to handle the economy has narrowed to 46-37 from 48-33 three weeks ago; its lead on best party to handle national security has unaccountably narrowed from 45-33 to 43-39; and Labor’s leads on education and health have widened considerably. No doubt much of this can be put down to a very Labor-friendly poll sample. Most interesting is a question on strength of voting intention which gives no reason to think the support for Labor might be “soft”.

782 Comments

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  1. 51
    Bobby Horry
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Great result! But there’s only poll that matters…

  2. 52
    blacklight
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  3. 53
    Michael Proud
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Bluebottle – it was 56-44 with ALP /Coalition on 39/48 primaries.

  4. 54
    Simon
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Gaps narrowing on economy and Nat. security.

  5. 55
    onimod
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    ahhhhhhh
    4-1 talkback AGAINST the LP tax cuts was NEVER momentum.
    I even yelled at Brissenden on the 730 report tonight for referring to it as such.
    What’s the reaction going to be?
    I’m betting “all steady, nothing new” from the ALP for another week and panic like we’ve never seen form the LP – I think it’s Hockey’s turn tomorrow isn’t it?

  6. 56
    Blackbird
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    George Megalogenas says gap narrowing on economy and national security

  7. 57
    Oldtimer
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    OMG

    I agree Kina, it may be an outlier but it ain’t the ‘Narrowing’!

    Santa Claus just walked through my door!!!!!!!!!

  8. 58
    Kina
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Labor still has a job to do, if the win looks good odds then the job is to maximise the opportunity.

  9. 59
    Charlie
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Preferred PM – Rudd 50, Howard 37.

  10. 60
    Michael Proud
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Adam at 47 – I am off to the Cemetery now!

  11. 61
    TofK
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Yay, we shall then have a minute silence for our dearly departed, the worm.

  12. 62
    BenC
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Any word on Primaries yet?

  13. 63
    alpal
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    I thought there would b e a widening. I think Possum is on the record of thinking the same thing. It will widen even further. This will be a once-in-a-generation tsunami.

  14. 64
    Lord D
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    CRUSH THEM ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT MERCY!!!!! GRIND THEM INTO THE DUST WITH THE HEELS OF OUR BOOTS!!!!!!

  15. 65
    Just Me
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Not gloating, Adam. Genuinely stunned. I would have been happy with 54 2PP.

    WOW!

  16. 66
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    TofK 46

    You’re hard to please!!!!!

    Bobby Horry 51

    C’mon, let us enjoy this for tonight LOL :-)

  17. 67
    Mr Squiggle
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but a result like this requires a labor primary vote to be at least 50%.

    This is a complete kick in the gonads…..

    I need to go and sit down somewhere, find an ice-pack, and wonder if I’ll ever conceive children

    groannnnnnnnnnn

  18. 68
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Adam 47. How do you do that? No, don’t tell me, the Libs might turn their energies from Inet pseudo polls.

  19. 69
    TofK
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    BREAKING: white powder found at parliament, found on HoR side. Are the libs trying to start their own terror scare? Way too coincidental.

  20. 70
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    George Megalogenas says gap narrowing on economy and national security

    That means the government is on the way out. Voting intention is most important, but those gapes narrowing mean people are changing their mind on those issues to justify prefering Labor, not the other way around.

  21. 71
    nath
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Who’s going to sack Windschuttle?

  22. 72
    TofK
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Eggo, Im filling my glass with chardonnay as I type (dont ask me how).

  23. 73
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Don’t like it when the polls show landslide preportions.. the public may see it as a reason to believe that Labor will win so i will switch back…

  24. 74
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    You can put the figure in, you just have to be clever.
    http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2007/calculator/?swing=national&national=10.7&nsw=0&vic=0&qld=0&wa=0&sa=0&tas=0&act=0&nt=0&retiringfactor=1

  25. 75
    HarryH
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Adam,

    i recall you ,some weeks ago, calling possum and others(me) fools for suggesting that some Lib strongholds like North Sydney, Ryan, Sturt, Goldstein,Higgins, Kooyong, Grey etc are in play.

    any change of mind now?

    Rudd is no hero to Labor left supporters but he is KRYPTONITE to Howard with “wet” Lib supporters.

  26. 76
    Julie
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Now we know the real reason why Costello wouldn’t come onto the 7:30 report with Kerry ;-)

  27. 77
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Just Me. My prediction after the Rudd tax policy was that it would enable Labor to hold the line in Newspoll at 55 and that would be good enough. I’m very pleased to be wrong.

  28. 78
    the munz of mosman
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    71.. why would’t he walk?

  29. 79
    Doug
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Has Newspoll been taking Morgan methodology pills?

  30. 80
    Grog
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Shanahan says “Too early to tell if public likes the ALP tax policy”

  31. 81
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Let’s be objective here (I know it’s hard to do, bear with me)

    What can the Libs do now? Let’s think from their side….

    National security

    Ditch Howard (not as dumb as it sounds)

    I struggling to think of things…….

  32. 82
    Julie
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    72
    TofK Says:
    October 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pm
    Eggo, Im filling my glass with chardonnay as I type (dont ask me how).

    thanks for that thought, I just finished mine, will go back for a refill ;-)

  33. 83
    Lose the election please
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    At least this in part destroys any media narrative of a ‘comeback’ for the Liberal Party. Watch and see Liberal internal polling be leaked showing them ‘in front in the bush and key marginals’.

  34. 84
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Harry, I don’t think I called anyone a fool. I begged to differ with the construction Possum was putting on the Newspoll extrapolations. I am sticking by my prediction of 20 seats.

  35. 85
    Just Me
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    TofK. I am already on my 2nd vodka after reading those numbers.

    WOW! (Last time, I promise. I’ll revert to lower case.)

  36. 86
    sondeo
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    #76
    Julie Says:
    October 22nd, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Now we know the real reason why Costello wouldn’t come onto the 7:30 report with Kerry ;-) …

    And maybe why the PM seemed a grumpy old man last night.New he had to win to try and stay in the race.

  37. 87
    TofK
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Cant wait for Shanna’s article. If there ever was a ‘Denis Doctrine’, it would be denial, and lots of it.

  38. 88
    SJP
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    To paraphrase Aussiegurl from last nights blog :

    “Australians let us all rejoice for we are gunna be Howard-free”

  39. 89
    nath
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    exactly Adam, this means that 55-45 is possible. That still wont deliver seats like Kooyong.

  40. 90
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Sydney Newspaper headline last week was
    “Here comes Johnney” wonder what will it be tomorrow…..

  41. 91
    Bluebottle
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Stopped by the office of one Wayne Swan this arvo and strongly suggested a Swan-Costello debate, face to face, would be good value for Labor if Swanny can go hard on child care, petrol prices, family budget struggles and stuff the women voters in outer mortgage belt seats will tune in to.

    The secretary kindly listened to my suggestions then took my name etc and I left. Tonight, on the BIG EARS report, they noted at the beginning that Captain Smirk had been invited to do just that, debate Swan ;

    He opted to say no and also rejected an invitation to a simple interview with BIG EARS, again, no thanks;maybe tomorrow night. Maybe he is still smarting from the dressing down he got for being a dickhead on national television during the debate last night.

    Oh yeah, I was a dick trying to advise W Swan how to run his campaign: but that’s ok, Im not running for Government or the unelected PM of this country am I. What a whoose bag Captain Smirk is outside of the big house.

  42. 92
    TofK
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    JustMe, vodka! You menshevik! Bed its that red label you keep under the bed!

  43. 93
    Kina
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Labor still needs to cry poor, under-play it considerably, even bullshit it – they don’t want the horses to be scared. If this is even close to true then other things could be on. 11 long years.

    This is like wining the sem-final and walking off the field without celebration, mind on the big event.

    I hope unions, officials, Labor members can hold it together with out the office measuring mentality. :)

  44. 94
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Just Me, Julie, TofK

    I’m a tea-totaller

    Nights like this I wish I wasn’t…..

  45. 95
    El Nino
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Kina @ 42 and Dave @ 28 – spot on. Nothing has changed. The real tsunami in this (i.e. slow and unstoppable) is best summarised in how our mate the worm didn’t move after a few moments of J-HO talking. The punters have switched off. Roll on 24 Nov.

  46. 96
    Blackbird
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Bolt says Labor with a majorith of 10 seats. Attacks Henderson for sitting on the fence and then criticising those that got it wrong after the election.

  47. 97
    TofK
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Yes Kina. Personally I think Labor’s policy of Rudd running for 150 seats is working.

  48. 98
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Yes Harry,

    I too want Adam to at least admit that Higgins and Warringah are now in play.

  49. 99
    Just Me
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    81
    SirEggo Says:
    Let’s be objective here (I know it’s hard to do, bear with me)
    What can the Libs do now? Let’s think from their side….

    Umm, seppuku?

    I am just trying to help, and make it as painless for them as I can. Honest.

    Oops, empty glass again. Must have a hole in it. Better drink straight from the bottle, just to be sure.

    wow

  50. 100
    Grog
    Posted Monday, October 22, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    I was trying to stay positive last week given the strong AC primary. But I was sure the 2PP would be 54 or less.

    LETP 83 is spot on – this poll is good mostly because it kills the Howard is comming back bull. But at 58% it actually goes even further and the talk becomes about should Howard have gone, is it too late for Costello etc etc.

    The main goal for Rudd all year has been to destroy the myth of Howard and his ability to come back from the dead. Last week’s nerves showed how potent this myth is.

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