As reported by the Sydney Morning Herald (link broken at the time of writing), GetUp! has commissioned its third national poll of Senate voting intention from Galaxy. This is a highly dubious exercise which is producing very strange results. Make whatever you like from the news that Labor’s vote has slumped in the last month from 39 per cent to 33 per cent. The sample size was 1003; Family First and the Democrats were both on 2 per cent.
| ALP | LNP | GRN | |
| October 20/21 | 33 | 38 | 11 |
| September 8/9 | 39 | 35 | 10 |
| June 23/24 | 38 | 34 | 13 |
| 2004 Election | 35.0 | 45.0 | 7.7 |
UPDATE: GetUp! press release here. Maddeningly, “other/don’t know” has been rolled into one.
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Let me guess, WGAR – you were talking about interest rates. I had some blocks in place to stop spammers peddling “cheap loans” and other such. I’ve removed them now.
The media have never generally liked Howard but previously they have never turned on him as they have in the last few years because they want him gone and if they continue to sprout their rubbish and not scrutinise Rudd properly then they’ll get their wish…
Joe McDonald gets $2,500 in costs.
Glen, the media have given Howard a dream run……all big business has. When he loses office and you see him standing there without the robes of office even you will see him for the litte mediocre fellow he is. There is a definite move against Howard in the MSN which happens inevitably when change is coming like a tidal wave and everyone wants to be on the right side of it. I suggest glen that you stop listening to mummy and daddy and get on board…
Sounds like a fair deal to me – Howard out, Rudd in.
Actually = sorry if I’ve conjured a mental image of Howard stark naked. Very unsavoury.
hahahahahhahaha some moron from business S.A. just said on Nine News that inflation is at a good level.
Maybe he slept through all of Wednesday?
AMA says hospitals under funded by $3 billion.
Labor harasses and intimidates pensioners in nursing homes for their votes
Liberal looks after our older persons and improves their pensions
yeah. Glenn: are you mad at John Howard? If I was a Lib supporter, I’d be hell pissy. I think he’s dropped the ball big big time on the campaign trail. Like calling it this side of a RBA annoucement. Like flubbing the debate.
Thanks William for your prompt reply.
I did not know you were having probs with spamming. I was trying to catch up with posts earlier in the day and was trying to clear up some misconceptions (at lest in my mind) re the capped loans that were discontinued in the 70’s (I think). Once one starts turning grey history is one area that us oldies have an advantage.
You provide a very interesting blog and I would not want to do anything to make you life harder – though maybe after a few reds ………..
Below is a copy of that earlier post.
John of Melbourne @ # 152 said:
“AM house interest rates were at 13%!â€
It would be nice if you got your details correct John of Melbourne.
Some people had capped loans at 13% but a good percentage of homebuyers had uncapped loans. This meant that the rate on their loan was subject to the market.
To get a capped loan one had to satisfy certain conditions and borrow from an approved lender. Banks were approved lenders while all other lenders were not approved. However, not all loans from a Bank were approved loans for the purpose of having the loan rate capped.
This means that some borrowers were paying a lot more than 13% on their housing loan.
Those who had the capped loans however were caught when the rates fell below 13% in that the rate was maintained at the 13% mark for a considerable time after the rate fell. This resulted in those on unapproved loans were paying a interest rate of well below the cap of 13% well after the “official rate†had fallen below 13%.
For those keeping a record of predications for the election here is mine for what it is worth
My head says ALP 85
My heart says ALP 100+
So much for Rudd saying the Howard Government would go negative we have that buck tooth factional rooster Albanese on ACA claiming some big conspiracy with the EB and the Liberal Party…what hypocrisy from Rudd he was going to go as negative as the Coalition and yet he hadnt the balls to say so…
I am not mad at JWH i am mad at the media…and Ray Martin…
Why would i be angry with calling an election this side of an RBA decision…and he didnt flub the debate he burnt Rudd about using false OECD reports to sprout lies to the people of Australia…
Rudd got burned today…thats what happens when you arrive late to a pensioners club and interrupt their performance…has Rudd no decency! No wonder that guy called him a bastard…
thats it glen, let it out.
Geez, Glen… get a grip. There’s 4 weeks to go man!
Albanese is right. The Liberals shouldn’t accept money from an organisation that opposes liberty and equality. Opposing those two principles means they are un-Australian, and thus they should not be supported.
Glen: he rambled, he got mad. He had to play it cool, because Rudd’s framed as a nice, reasonable, calm, practical man. Think Father Mulcahy from MASH.
They’re going to put interest rates up during an election campaign! People vote with their hearts, their minds, and their mortgages. That’s bad. Look, honestly, I’m not saying that I think John Howard is a bad person. I’m just saying that I think Howard’s base have a reason to be mad at him.
..how do you think the campaign is going? on a scale of one to ten? I mean, externalities (the media which we’re all smart enough to see through, at least here), and emphemera (K. Rudd’s aural snacking, rest homes, Bishop’s school trip, etc, etc)
Glen
Do you have a clue who writes OECD reports on Australia? AUSTRALIANS.
I had a nice time in Paris decades ago working for the OECD, getting all my data from the AUSTRALIAN Govt.
Costello loves to quote stats he agrees with, then ignores anything that does not suit his spin.
I wonder how many shredders have burnt out this week.
Damn that Ray Martin. Damn Media. They’re losing us the war in Iraq and driving down Bush and Howard’s popularity. If only there was a rich Australian conservative who could create a Media Empire and marry a much younger Asian journalist and go and live in the USA but still control the newspapers in Australia and use his power to promote the conservatives world wide and maybe even call his company News something or other. Guess you can just dream of such things. Damn media.
Tabitha, your persuasive efforts are going to waste here. I think Brian Longhane requires your services.
542- Ive heard on the grapevine the Telegraph editorial will come out pro ALP. Murdoch believes that Rudd is a safe pair of hands (at the moment anyway)
Speaking of Rudd, is it just me taking notice for once or is he really improving in his media performances?
His delivery certainly seems a lot more relaxed and polished and has more depth to it over the last week or so. Maybe it’s just a confidence thing with him but he’s getting better by the day.
Ozy @ 394
OK. $20 on table now. Calling contacts. This is big! Any room for Meryl Streep?
When is the next Galaxy due out?
Soldier killed.
Glen you need to be a little more rational. Make a list of the things that have opened up our economy and thus made us what we are:
Diplomatic ties with china
Reduction of tariffs
Floating of the dollar
compulsory supper
etc.
Then put a name next to them.
Rude old tools from Tassie aside, campaign’s going swimmingly Id say. However, Im increasingly of the view that public polls should be regulated by minimum standards.
Polls are important to us out here you know!
Lets have minimum standards (eg samples sizes), and a bit of methodological rigour, please.
Should have to publish the questions with the results too, and we’ll be the judge of who’s pushing and who’s polling.
Charles 575
Point 4 compulsory supper
I would not put labour but the name piers next to that one
I’m calling Warringah for Zochling. This is just for you. (Please note that in times past z was pronounced d).
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WMKxnYRhk6I
Another Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan.
Another soldier has died in Afghanistan
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/25/2070673.htm
Keating on ABC – solid gold!
Also, Jim Middleton picked up Possum’s analysis showing that interest rate increases correlate with an increase in Labor’s vote.
Yep, I’d say a pretty good day all round for Labor. The MSM and banks are turning like sharks on a bleeding prey. Keating at his marvellous best. How I miss him. Want him for first Leader of the Republic. On topic, the poll looks entirely not worth commenting on to me. Brissenden on 7.30 fundamentally replaying Lib. propaganda. May the new Labor gov’t renew the ABC. Ozymandias, you’re a genius.
Our own dear Anthony on 7:30 report now
Antony?
charles @ 575
……
to which we could add:
Nearly every other enduring reform of the twentieth century, from the accomplishments of Fisher through Curtin and Chifley to Whitlam and Hawke-Keating. The great social and economic drivers have been put in place by Labor governments, whatever their faults and mis-steps. By contrast, the coalition have stood for one thing above all – getting and enjoying office.
Fair go, what about decimal currency?
oh quite right, shows on: a giant step forward
#277 Dem
The Democrats winning a Senate seat in South Australia AND Queensland? I’d like to see that!
ShowsOn: They only put in decimal cueency since they didn’t know how to count. hehe
currency even
To be fair, in retrospect, despite his errors, Malcolm Fraser did some good things too…
obviously Ray Martin is a communist and Channel Nine is the Socialist Broadcasting Station…or is that SBS…
Nice EB bogeymen
heheheh
PJK for President!
Including of course forming SBS TV. But I think now is the time to merge SBS and ABC, one station for all Australian content, the other station for foreign content, and another two stations for national and state community TV.
Something like PBS and CSPAN in the U.S.
community tv? i think my kids call this snorology…
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22647055-5005361,00.html
Methinks the Accordian Player needs some Anger Management Pills.
Oh and for the record,m he was a Scot – nuff said.
i’d like a channel that plays reruns of the west wing, minder, gilligan’s island and i dream of genie…i could descend into telelvisual dementia, content at last
Frank the point was and everybody could see that Rudd and Sidebottom came in late and interrupted their recital so while they may have been invited they came late and disrupted them doing their performance…so Rudd deserved the stick he got…
Oh and for the record,m he was a Scot – and an ex cop
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Glen Says:
October 25th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Frank the point was….
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more sour grapes, glen….sore belly, huh?
Has anyone seen any labor ads that are defending the union movement and countering the Lib scare campaign??
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