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	<title>Comments on: Bennelong shock: McKew leads Howard</title>
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		<title>By: Bennelong Blue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/04/bennelong-poll-shock-mckew-leads-howard-52-48/comment-page-2/#comment-68949</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennelong Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How funny! It looks like the Socialist Alternative have taken hold of this blog??? If not Socialist Alternative, perhaps it&#039;s Michael Butterworth, McKew&#039;s Campaign Manager?  It will be interesting to see whether he&#039;d get offered a position on Maxine&#039;s staff if she was elected or whether she&#039;d stack her office with some of the ABC cronies that she&#039;s been employing on her campaign team? I guess time will tell.......

However, getting back to the campaign in Bennelong, it&#039;s been very apparent for quite some time that Howard&#039;s team has been hammering Maxine on the ground. Whether that be with Street Stalls, Railway Stations, poster sites, literature or knick nacks, Howard is clearly well ahead of the ALP. Howard&#039;s local campaign team has swung strongly into action, which has seen them man up to six street stalls on any given Saturday morning. Howard also has a hand picked team of Young Liberals who are out on the ground on Saturdays and during the week. By contrast, Maxine&#039;s purple shirt wearers turn up at Ermington or Epping for an hour and leave. That&#039;s hardly professional campaigning - in fact, it simply proves a lack of resources and manpower, a point well highlighted in a July edition of the local Northern District Times. It will be interesting to see if McKew even bothers to run more than three street stalls this weekend?

McKew for all her supposed charm, continues to struggle for name recognition with the crucial Chinese and Korean community. Despite the best efforts of a few in her Chinese supporters group who salaciously throw up the old Howard/Hanson xenophobic chestnut, most in this community see through this lie and are reluctant to throw away access to their local MP who also happens to be the Prime Minister of Australia, similar in vein to the access that they have to John Watkins, the NSW Deputy Premier in the overlapping State electorate of Ryde. 

Sure, the result of this seat will be close and the best thing McKew has going for her is demographic change, however, the odds must surely be right and in favour of a Howard win in this seat? Any talk about odds being corrupted is just another foolhardy, socialist conspiracist theory. It&#039;s about as believable as the arrival of the next socialist revolution or a comeback from Che Guevara?

Let&#039;s see what happens in the next few weeks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How funny! It looks like the Socialist Alternative have taken hold of this blog??? If not Socialist Alternative, perhaps it&#8217;s Michael Butterworth, McKew&#8217;s Campaign Manager?  It will be interesting to see whether he&#8217;d get offered a position on Maxine&#8217;s staff if she was elected or whether she&#8217;d stack her office with some of the ABC cronies that she&#8217;s been employing on her campaign team? I guess time will tell&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, getting back to the campaign in Bennelong, it&#8217;s been very apparent for quite some time that Howard&#8217;s team has been hammering Maxine on the ground. Whether that be with Street Stalls, Railway Stations, poster sites, literature or knick nacks, Howard is clearly well ahead of the ALP. Howard&#8217;s local campaign team has swung strongly into action, which has seen them man up to six street stalls on any given Saturday morning. Howard also has a hand picked team of Young Liberals who are out on the ground on Saturdays and during the week. By contrast, Maxine&#8217;s purple shirt wearers turn up at Ermington or Epping for an hour and leave. That&#8217;s hardly professional campaigning &#8211; in fact, it simply proves a lack of resources and manpower, a point well highlighted in a July edition of the local Northern District Times. It will be interesting to see if McKew even bothers to run more than three street stalls this weekend?</p>
<p>McKew for all her supposed charm, continues to struggle for name recognition with the crucial Chinese and Korean community. Despite the best efforts of a few in her Chinese supporters group who salaciously throw up the old Howard/Hanson xenophobic chestnut, most in this community see through this lie and are reluctant to throw away access to their local MP who also happens to be the Prime Minister of Australia, similar in vein to the access that they have to John Watkins, the NSW Deputy Premier in the overlapping State electorate of Ryde. </p>
<p>Sure, the result of this seat will be close and the best thing McKew has going for her is demographic change, however, the odds must surely be right and in favour of a Howard win in this seat? Any talk about odds being corrupted is just another foolhardy, socialist conspiracist theory. It&#8217;s about as believable as the arrival of the next socialist revolution or a comeback from Che Guevara?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what happens in the next few weeks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: EconoMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>EconoMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got on for $200 when Maxine was $4.75, just after she was announced. The best price she was ever paying was $4.80 i believe. I&#039;m still happy to let it ride at the moment, I reckon the true odds are close to evens atm. I also have a fair chunk of money on Labor to win overall, at an average price of $1.55

I believe (and hope) that Kina is right, @ 79. The &#039;once it looks like Labor will win&#039; factor was one of the main reasons I thought I was getting solid &#039;overs&#039; when I placed the bet. Howard has all but confirmed he will retire if he wins but Coalition loses (&#039;no shit&#039; is an appropriate response). So who wants to vote for a by-election? Not many swinging voters I&#039;d say.

As to peoples&#039; bets not affecting the price, the Bennelong market is pretty thick, judging by Betfair. Last I checked, which was a while back, Betfair had matched:

National market (i.e. who forms govt): $600,000
Bennelong market: ~$60,000
Most other individual seats: less than $1000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got on for $200 when Maxine was $4.75, just after she was announced. The best price she was ever paying was $4.80 i believe. I&#8217;m still happy to let it ride at the moment, I reckon the true odds are close to evens atm. I also have a fair chunk of money on Labor to win overall, at an average price of $1.55</p>
<p>I believe (and hope) that Kina is right, @ 79. The &#8216;once it looks like Labor will win&#8217; factor was one of the main reasons I thought I was getting solid &#8216;overs&#8217; when I placed the bet. Howard has all but confirmed he will retire if he wins but Coalition loses (&#8217;no shit&#8217; is an appropriate response). So who wants to vote for a by-election? Not many swinging voters I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p>As to peoples&#8217; bets not affecting the price, the Bennelong market is pretty thick, judging by Betfair. Last I checked, which was a while back, Betfair had matched:</p>
<p>National market (i.e. who forms govt): $600,000<br />
Bennelong market: ~$60,000<br />
Most other individual seats: less than $1000</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that Maxine&#039;s strategy was to put pressure on Howard during this election, with the aim of winning Bennalong when Howard&#039;s resigns/retires (which will  be most likely late January or early February 2008, to avoid the humiliation of sitting in Parliament again).

Her worst case scenario now would be that the Libs getting back in with a waffer thin majority, in which case Howard will have no choice but to resign within six months, the by-election called and Maxine will sail in as the new member for Bennalong.


I guess the question uppermost in the minds of many electors in Bennalong is  do they go through th charade of bring back Howard only for him to shoot through in a couple of months, or do they move on to the next generation of politicians (and by the way, most likely have someone influencial in the new Government as their MP).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that Maxine&#8217;s strategy was to put pressure on Howard during this election, with the aim of winning Bennalong when Howard&#8217;s resigns/retires (which will  be most likely late January or early February 2008, to avoid the humiliation of sitting in Parliament again).</p>
<p>Her worst case scenario now would be that the Libs getting back in with a waffer thin majority, in which case Howard will have no choice but to resign within six months, the by-election called and Maxine will sail in as the new member for Bennalong.</p>
<p>I guess the question uppermost in the minds of many electors in Bennalong is  do they go through th charade of bring back Howard only for him to shoot through in a couple of months, or do they move on to the next generation of politicians (and by the way, most likely have someone influencial in the new Government as their MP).</p>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like using the Sportingbet $100 freebie is just &#039;stealing&#039; money from the Liberals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like using the Sportingbet $100 freebie is just &#8217;stealing&#8217; money from the Liberals!</p>
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		<title>By: paul b</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another first-timer puts $100 freebie on Maxine. I was thinking of putting the $30 on the coalition at $3-something, but it felt dirty. Other $30 on Labor @ $1.32. 

Odds still $2.60 at 6:30pm. Amazing value, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another first-timer puts $100 freebie on Maxine. I was thinking of putting the $30 on the coalition at $3-something, but it felt dirty. Other $30 on Labor @ $1.32. </p>
<p>Odds still $2.60 at 6:30pm. Amazing value, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Crikey Whitey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crikey Whitey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try again.

William

I have a number of the missing threads, most in full I think, two of which are partial only, which I have pasted into word documents.

Any good to you?

It happened that I had left them open, which my brain (?) had not registered till now.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try again.</p>
<p>William</p>
<p>I have a number of the missing threads, most in full I think, two of which are partial only, which I have pasted into word documents.</p>
<p>Any good to you?</p>
<p>It happened that I had left them open, which my brain (?) had not registered till now.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathological Logic... now I see why you chose your name. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathological Logic&#8230; now I see why you chose your name. <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This line by Howard, is not a gaffe, but it reveals the truth...:

&quot;This country needs infrastructure and, for the last couple of years, the business community and journalists and editorial writers have been saying we need more money spent on infrastructure.&quot;

For the last couple of years?????????????

So he&#039;s admitting they&#039;ve done bugger all for two years, and now three weeks out they decide to do something but not to begin until 2009?

And they wonder why the polls are stuck on 55-455...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This line by Howard, is not a gaffe, but it reveals the truth&#8230;:</p>
<p>&#8220;This country needs infrastructure and, for the last couple of years, the business community and journalists and editorial writers have been saying we need more money spent on infrastructure.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the last couple of years?????????????</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s admitting they&#8217;ve done bugger all for two years, and now three weeks out they decide to do something but not to begin until 2009?</p>
<p>And they wonder why the polls are stuck on 55-455&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pathological Logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pathological Logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I planted my free $100 on Maxine about a week ago when it was $2.85 - no risk, why not?  I also have $15 on Mike Bailey at 7:1, hedged against $35 on Labor to win overall (at $1.40).  At the absolute worst (if Maxine and Mike lose but Labor win), I&#039;ll be down a full dollar.  This, I feel, is a reasonable level of risk-taking. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I planted my free $100 on Maxine about a week ago when it was $2.85 &#8211; no risk, why not?  I also have $15 on Mike Bailey at 7:1, hedged against $35 on Labor to win overall (at $1.40).  At the absolute worst (if Maxine and Mike lose but Labor win), I&#8217;ll be down a full dollar.  This, I feel, is a reasonable level of risk-taking. <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading about Howard&#039;s $10b road plan. How dodgy can you get. Firstly most of it has been budgeted fro under Auslink, and second, &quot;None of the money will be spent before 2009.&quot;

Promises for roads are generally the first discarded - if they weren&#039;t, Sydney to Brisbane would be the safest road in the world by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading about Howard&#8217;s $10b road plan. How dodgy can you get. Firstly most of it has been budgeted fro under Auslink, and second, &#8220;None of the money will be spent before 2009.&#8221;</p>
<p>Promises for roads are generally the first discarded &#8211; if they weren&#8217;t, Sydney to Brisbane would be the safest road in the world by now.</p>
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