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		<title>By: canberra boy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-71969</link>
		<dc:creator>canberra boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have been thinking recently about the standard deviation of swings by electorate.  I started out thinking about applying standard deviations to poll results either nationally or by state to get some idea of the distribution of the swing.  I didn&#039;t get far in proving anything useful.  However, as often happens in scientific endeavour, I happened on something interesting by accident.

I was able to download an Excel spreadsheet with 2004 swings by electorate from the AEC website.  Because there was no equivalent spreadsheet for 2001 results, I was compelled to enter 2001 swings manually from an AEC table.  The electorates were listed in swing order, and I noticed that a number of the electorates we have been canvassing lately in the blogosphere crop up at the swing-to-Labor end of the 2001 spectrum.  For example Warringah, Kooyong, Ryan, Higgins &amp; Kennedy. 

With my interest piqued by the 2001 swings in some of those safer Coalition seats, I decided to test the swing in each seat to see how many standard deviations they were away from the mean electorate swing for the State.  I did this for both 2001 &amp; 2004, and then added the results together as well for good measure.

A number of Coalition seats stand out for having gone hard (in relative terms) against the pro-Government trend in the last two elections:

Bennelong - 1.4 standard deviations of the NSW swing in the Labor direction in 2004
Berowra - almost 1.5 NSW st dev towards Labor in 2004
Bradfield - 1.18 &amp; 1.15 st dev towards Labor in the last two elections (but at 68% 2pp last time its very safe)
Cowper - 1.5 NSW st dev towards Labor in 2001
Mackellar - averaged .9 NSW st dev towards Labor at the last 2 elections (but over 65% 2pp)
North Sydney - .9 and 1.36 NSW st dev towards Labor
Warringah - 1.18 and .97 the last two elections
Wentworth - .95 and 1.05
Kennedy - 1.6 and 0.7 st dev better for Labor than the mean swing in Qld
Ryan - averaged .8 Qld st dev towards Labor in 2001 &amp; 2004
Boothby - averaged .91 SA st dev better for Labor
Corangamite - 1.5 Vic st dev better for Labor in 2004
Higgins - more than 1.3 Vic st dev in each election
Kooyong - .96 and 2.1 Vic st dev better for Labor
McMillan - 1.67 st dev better for Labor in 2004

The extent of these swings was disguised by the State and national swings to the Coalition the last two times.  For example, the 2001 swing to the Libs in Wentworth of 0.5% looks unremarkable, but its not a good result when you realise the mean swing in NSW was 3% with a standard deviation of 2.6%.

My hypothesis about a number of these seats is that it represents the revolt of the small-l Liberal heartland against the Howard marginal seats strategy involving lowest-common-denominator racism, xenophobia, global warming denial, detention without trial etc.  The statistics reinforce &lt;a href=&quot;http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/my-what-a-big-swing-you-have/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Possum Comitatus&#039; analysis&lt;/a&gt; of the quarterly Newspoll results which points to a huge swing in safe Coalition seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have been thinking recently about the standard deviation of swings by electorate.  I started out thinking about applying standard deviations to poll results either nationally or by state to get some idea of the distribution of the swing.  I didn&#8217;t get far in proving anything useful.  However, as often happens in scientific endeavour, I happened on something interesting by accident.</p>
<p>I was able to download an Excel spreadsheet with 2004 swings by electorate from the AEC website.  Because there was no equivalent spreadsheet for 2001 results, I was compelled to enter 2001 swings manually from an AEC table.  The electorates were listed in swing order, and I noticed that a number of the electorates we have been canvassing lately in the blogosphere crop up at the swing-to-Labor end of the 2001 spectrum.  For example Warringah, Kooyong, Ryan, Higgins &amp; Kennedy. </p>
<p>With my interest piqued by the 2001 swings in some of those safer Coalition seats, I decided to test the swing in each seat to see how many standard deviations they were away from the mean electorate swing for the State.  I did this for both 2001 &amp; 2004, and then added the results together as well for good measure.</p>
<p>A number of Coalition seats stand out for having gone hard (in relative terms) against the pro-Government trend in the last two elections:</p>
<p>Bennelong &#8211; 1.4 standard deviations of the NSW swing in the Labor direction in 2004<br />
Berowra &#8211; almost 1.5 NSW st dev towards Labor in 2004<br />
Bradfield &#8211; 1.18 &amp; 1.15 st dev towards Labor in the last two elections (but at 68% 2pp last time its very safe)<br />
Cowper &#8211; 1.5 NSW st dev towards Labor in 2001<br />
Mackellar &#8211; averaged .9 NSW st dev towards Labor at the last 2 elections (but over 65% 2pp)<br />
North Sydney &#8211; .9 and 1.36 NSW st dev towards Labor<br />
Warringah &#8211; 1.18 and .97 the last two elections<br />
Wentworth &#8211; .95 and 1.05<br />
Kennedy &#8211; 1.6 and 0.7 st dev better for Labor than the mean swing in Qld<br />
Ryan &#8211; averaged .8 Qld st dev towards Labor in 2001 &amp; 2004<br />
Boothby &#8211; averaged .91 SA st dev better for Labor<br />
Corangamite &#8211; 1.5 Vic st dev better for Labor in 2004<br />
Higgins &#8211; more than 1.3 Vic st dev in each election<br />
Kooyong &#8211; .96 and 2.1 Vic st dev better for Labor<br />
McMillan &#8211; 1.67 st dev better for Labor in 2004</p>
<p>The extent of these swings was disguised by the State and national swings to the Coalition the last two times.  For example, the 2001 swing to the Libs in Wentworth of 0.5% looks unremarkable, but its not a good result when you realise the mean swing in NSW was 3% with a standard deviation of 2.6%.</p>
<p>My hypothesis about a number of these seats is that it represents the revolt of the small-l Liberal heartland against the Howard marginal seats strategy involving lowest-common-denominator racism, xenophobia, global warming denial, detention without trial etc.  The statistics reinforce <a href="http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/my-what-a-big-swing-you-have/" rel="nofollow">Possum Comitatus&#8217; analysis</a> of the quarterly Newspoll results which points to a huge swing in safe Coalition seats.</p>
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		<title>By: Midnorthcoast</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-70420</link>
		<dc:creator>Midnorthcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks like the State by State for the last 2 Newspolls. From the Age site but not many details.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Labor-leads-in-all-states-except-WA/2007/11/07/1194329324944.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like the State by State for the last 2 Newspolls. From the Age site but not many details.<br />
<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Labor-leads-in-all-states-except-WA/2007/11/07/1194329324944.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Labor-leads-in-all-states-except-WA/2007/11/07/1194329324944.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: shaboh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-70127</link>
		<dc:creator>shaboh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been noting the media bias towards Howard the past couple of days
eg: 
-2GB (Home of Alan&quot;I have a urinary problem&quot; Jones) at 7:00pm had the interest rate increase at story 5
- On Sky News I have seen better/more coverage to the Libs over Labor

I will list more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been noting the media bias towards Howard the past couple of days<br />
eg:<br />
-2GB (Home of Alan&#8221;I have a urinary problem&#8221; Jones) at 7:00pm had the interest rate increase at story 5<br />
- On Sky News I have seen better/more coverage to the Libs over Labor</p>
<p>I will list more</p>
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		<title>By: Heyado</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-70066</link>
		<dc:creator>Heyado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If, as I suspect, the campaign managers for Labor have been hanging onto the best grenades in the advertising box to lob in the final fortnight, following the campaign launch, they will have played their hand perfectly.

Think about the contrasting images on the news at their launches. The Tip does the intro, Rattus strides out, they shake hands and pretend they like each other, Rodent then launches into lengthy discourse on why interest rates are going up is out of his hands, but vote us in again and we&#039;ll promise not to use our Senate majority to make sure your pay packet can&#039;t keep pace with price rises, or better still make it even easier for your boss to f**k you off any time he feels like it. 

A few lines about Labor and the unions planning to eat your children, then close by thanking your team. &quot;Go For Growth&quot; slogan nowhere to be seen, massive Australian flag will play well down Cronulla way but Cook&#039;s a safe Liberal seat so it makes no difference. Hyacinth stands next to him beaming proudly, thinking in the back of her mind that if he loses she will actually have to live with the guy 24/7, 365 days a year for another 25 years.

Rudd strides out after ensuring that no member of the NSW Government is within a ten block radius, wife and young kids in tow, some hip rock song plays in the background, Hawkie shakes his hand in the front row (Gough and Paul are welcome to attend but can watch from a private suite away from the cameras) and he strides onstage with &#039;New Leadership&#039; in the background of every shot. 

Tells the assembled that in order to keep productivity going we need to invest in education and skills training, so we shelved the tax cut for the rich pricks. Howard wants to build new technical colleges, we want to fund your kid&#039;s local school properly be it public or private. Think you&#039;re packing it over interest rates now? Wasn&#039;t life a bit better when you had something called job security? The boss already has you bent over, vote Howard back in and he&#039;ll hand your boss the black one with the 12 inch shaft to finish the job. Mortgage going up and house price going down? Just wait till Howard&#039;s buddies build their nuclear reactor down the road from you.

Standing ovation, hug from the wife and kids, beautiful. Cue a solid fortnight of 50% ads selling your plan for the future, 50% reminding you that in 2004 you voted for the bloke selling the magic beans, turns out the beans he sold you are worth 70% of what they were then, and the mate he sold your cow onto at a profit just raised the price of milk. But then again the bloke says he can&#039;t control the beans, and what his mate does with the cow in the privacy of his own home is none of his business.

Saving the bulk of the advertising push until the home stretch will do much to counteract the oodles of mud that&#039;s no doubt about to be slung.

All the above being said, something tells me a couple of curveballs on the night of the 24th like one or two WA seats going the other way will spoil the Labor party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, as I suspect, the campaign managers for Labor have been hanging onto the best grenades in the advertising box to lob in the final fortnight, following the campaign launch, they will have played their hand perfectly.</p>
<p>Think about the contrasting images on the news at their launches. The Tip does the intro, Rattus strides out, they shake hands and pretend they like each other, Rodent then launches into lengthy discourse on why interest rates are going up is out of his hands, but vote us in again and we&#8217;ll promise not to use our Senate majority to make sure your pay packet can&#8217;t keep pace with price rises, or better still make it even easier for your boss to f**k you off any time he feels like it. </p>
<p>A few lines about Labor and the unions planning to eat your children, then close by thanking your team. &#8220;Go For Growth&#8221; slogan nowhere to be seen, massive Australian flag will play well down Cronulla way but Cook&#8217;s a safe Liberal seat so it makes no difference. Hyacinth stands next to him beaming proudly, thinking in the back of her mind that if he loses she will actually have to live with the guy 24/7, 365 days a year for another 25 years.</p>
<p>Rudd strides out after ensuring that no member of the NSW Government is within a ten block radius, wife and young kids in tow, some hip rock song plays in the background, Hawkie shakes his hand in the front row (Gough and Paul are welcome to attend but can watch from a private suite away from the cameras) and he strides onstage with &#8216;New Leadership&#8217; in the background of every shot. </p>
<p>Tells the assembled that in order to keep productivity going we need to invest in education and skills training, so we shelved the tax cut for the rich pricks. Howard wants to build new technical colleges, we want to fund your kid&#8217;s local school properly be it public or private. Think you&#8217;re packing it over interest rates now? Wasn&#8217;t life a bit better when you had something called job security? The boss already has you bent over, vote Howard back in and he&#8217;ll hand your boss the black one with the 12 inch shaft to finish the job. Mortgage going up and house price going down? Just wait till Howard&#8217;s buddies build their nuclear reactor down the road from you.</p>
<p>Standing ovation, hug from the wife and kids, beautiful. Cue a solid fortnight of 50% ads selling your plan for the future, 50% reminding you that in 2004 you voted for the bloke selling the magic beans, turns out the beans he sold you are worth 70% of what they were then, and the mate he sold your cow onto at a profit just raised the price of milk. But then again the bloke says he can&#8217;t control the beans, and what his mate does with the cow in the privacy of his own home is none of his business.</p>
<p>Saving the bulk of the advertising push until the home stretch will do much to counteract the oodles of mud that&#8217;s no doubt about to be slung.</p>
<p>All the above being said, something tells me a couple of curveballs on the night of the 24th like one or two WA seats going the other way will spoil the Labor party.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there are plenty like me who vote out lousy,complacent govts regardless of party? I wanted to vote out this smug NSW government (with it&#039;s bruvvers..Costa,et al)but couldn&#039;t vote for Debnam....why did the Libs chose him over the steady O&#039;Farrell, who was known to voters and  who WAS electable? Sometimes wonder if it was pressure from JWH camp to keep NSW as Labor so as not to threaten the current Federal incumbency.
Surely the extreme swing to the right is what needs correcting with Fascism snapping at our heels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there are plenty like me who vote out lousy,complacent govts regardless of party? I wanted to vote out this smug NSW government (with it&#8217;s bruvvers..Costa,et al)but couldn&#8217;t vote for Debnam&#8230;.why did the Libs chose him over the steady O&#8217;Farrell, who was known to voters and  who WAS electable? Sometimes wonder if it was pressure from JWH camp to keep NSW as Labor so as not to threaten the current Federal incumbency.<br />
Surely the extreme swing to the right is what needs correcting with Fascism snapping at our heels?</p>
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		<title>By: Hemingway</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-69995</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks PJK for WA news we don&#039;t get in the Far East! I knew Beazley had retired, so I&#039;m relieved to hear that losing one of Labor&#039;s most revered MP&#039;s doesn&#039;t seem to place his former seat in danger. As Hawkie once said, Kim Beazley is the best Prime Minister we never had, and I would have felt a Labor victory all the more sweet if luck had gone Kim&#039;s way in either of his two campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PJK for WA news we don&#8217;t get in the Far East! I knew Beazley had retired, so I&#8217;m relieved to hear that losing one of Labor&#8217;s most revered MP&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t seem to place his former seat in danger. As Hawkie once said, Kim Beazley is the best Prime Minister we never had, and I would have felt a Labor victory all the more sweet if luck had gone Kim&#8217;s way in either of his two campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: PJK for President</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-69925</link>
		<dc:creator>PJK for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>580 - There is only one WA newspaper - &lt;i&gt;The Worst Australia&lt;/i&gt; and Beazley&#039;s not standing!  His former seat has a margin of 9% or so.  Cowan is being called close due to loss of Edwards as sitting member but odds are we will win Hasluck and Stirling.  Westpoll is always bollox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>580 &#8211; There is only one WA newspaper &#8211; <i>The Worst Australia</i> and Beazley&#8217;s not standing!  His former seat has a margin of 9% or so.  Cowan is being called close due to loss of Edwards as sitting member but odds are we will win Hasluck and Stirling.  Westpoll is always bollox.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemingway</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-69884</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>575 PJK, 
Delighted to hear WA is solid, but what&#039;s the story that some newspaper there had a random sample poll showing Beazley&#039;s and another one heading Howard&#039;s way? Was it a bogus survey, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>575 PJK,<br />
Delighted to hear WA is solid, but what&#8217;s the story that some newspaper there had a random sample poll showing Beazley&#8217;s and another one heading Howard&#8217;s way? Was it a bogus survey, or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-69878</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>535 Pi. Tabitha is a kindergarten student. Please don&#039;t denigrate Uni students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>535 Pi. Tabitha is a kindergarten student. Please don&#8217;t denigrate Uni students.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/covering-the-spread/comment-page-12/#comment-69870</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother in law has been interviewed on AM for tomorrows show about interest rates. Asked if they would affect the way she votes, she said no. She was then asked if they would affect the way she votes if there was another rise she said no, but John Howard has been there far too long and she was sure all her children were voting him out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother in law has been interviewed on AM for tomorrows show about interest rates. Asked if they would affect the way she votes, she said no. She was then asked if they would affect the way she votes if there was another rise she said no, but John Howard has been there far too long and she was sure all her children were voting him out.</p>
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