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	<title>Comments on: Seat du jour: Flynn</title>
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		<title>By: Blista</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/seat-du-jour-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-112319</link>
		<dc:creator>Blista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like ALP won after a good fight in Flynn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like ALP won after a good fight in Flynn.</p>
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		<title>By: Scorpio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/seat-du-jour-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-70684</link>
		<dc:creator>Scorpio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Bowe Says: 
November 7th, 2007 at 9:47 pm 
Any idea why Biloela might have swung 5 per cent to Labor in 2004, Wysiwyg?

William, I think the reopening of the Callide A Power Station and expansion of Callide B Power station would have resulted in an increase of the number of traditional Labor voters in Biloela which would have increased the Labor vote there in 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Bowe Says:<br />
November 7th, 2007 at 9:47 pm<br />
Any idea why Biloela might have swung 5 per cent to Labor in 2004, Wysiwyg?</p>
<p>William, I think the reopening of the Callide A Power Station and expansion of Callide B Power station would have resulted in an increase of the number of traditional Labor voters in Biloela which would have increased the Labor vote there in 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: collingwoodlegend</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/seat-du-jour-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-70676</link>
		<dc:creator>collingwoodlegend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ALP candidate in Maranoa in 2004 was the infamous Shane Guley, I know that a lot of ALP people in Barcaldine found him very hard to vote for. I think there is a &quot;Guley factor&quot; in the 2004 results for the central west booths, i.e. Barcaldine ( was around 65% alp in 2001), Longreach and Winton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ALP candidate in Maranoa in 2004 was the infamous Shane Guley, I know that a lot of ALP people in Barcaldine found him very hard to vote for. I think there is a &#8220;Guley factor&#8221; in the 2004 results for the central west booths, i.e. Barcaldine ( was around 65% alp in 2001), Longreach and Winton.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Robins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/seat-du-jour-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-70655</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Robins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enemy Combatant (19), Queensland long ago had its &quot;first ever prime minister&quot; - Andrew Fisher (Labor, 1908-09, 1910-13, 1914-15 - though he was born in Scotland). It also had two short-term PMs, Arthur Fadden (Country Party, 1941) and Frank Forde (Labor, 1945).

We in SA are still waiting for our first PM, though Bob Hawke was born in Bordertown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enemy Combatant (19), Queensland long ago had its &#8220;first ever prime minister&#8221; &#8211; Andrew Fisher (Labor, 1908-09, 1910-13, 1914-15 &#8211; though he was born in Scotland). It also had two short-term PMs, Arthur Fadden (Country Party, 1941) and Frank Forde (Labor, 1945).</p>
<p>We in SA are still waiting for our first PM, though Bob Hawke was born in Bordertown.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Easson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/seat-du-jour-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-70578</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Easson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rate Labor favorite to take Flynn. This Division is mostly made up of parts of Hinkler and Paul Neville can&#039;t transfer his personal vote. There was a big swing against the ALP in Gladestone in 2004. Labor has chosen well with its candidate and the three corner contest will hurt the Coalition.

William, you mentioned the loss of Bruce Scott&#039;s personal vote from those parts of the old Maranoa ( which makes up about a quarter of the seat). 

Several towns such as Baracaldine, Longreach and Peak Downs were transferred from the Labor seat of Capricornia to Maranoa in 2004 but which have now been put into Flynn. In 2004, there were 2PP swings to Bruce Scott of 15.2% in Baracaldine ( the birthplace of the Labor Party); and 12.6% in Peak Downs, an interesting case study from last time of the loss of a personal vote ( and where the ALP didn&#039;t seriously contest Maranoa).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rate Labor favorite to take Flynn. This Division is mostly made up of parts of Hinkler and Paul Neville can&#8217;t transfer his personal vote. There was a big swing against the ALP in Gladestone in 2004. Labor has chosen well with its candidate and the three corner contest will hurt the Coalition.</p>
<p>William, you mentioned the loss of Bruce Scott&#8217;s personal vote from those parts of the old Maranoa ( which makes up about a quarter of the seat). </p>
<p>Several towns such as Baracaldine, Longreach and Peak Downs were transferred from the Labor seat of Capricornia to Maranoa in 2004 but which have now been put into Flynn. In 2004, there were 2PP swings to Bruce Scott of 15.2% in Baracaldine ( the birthplace of the Labor Party); and 12.6% in Peak Downs, an interesting case study from last time of the loss of a personal vote ( and where the ALP didn&#8217;t seriously contest Maranoa).</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Robinson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/07/seat-du-jour-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-70522</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville has a definite personal vote in Hinkler that will be lost. The Qld coal towns are an interesting example of a provincial working-class region that has actually moved towards the ALP in recent decades, National party voting farmers&#039; sons  have been replaced by their Labor sons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville has a definite personal vote in Hinkler that will be lost. The Qld coal towns are an interesting example of a provincial working-class region that has actually moved towards the ALP in recent decades, National party voting farmers&#8217; sons  have been replaced by their Labor sons.</p>
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		<title>By: collingwoodlegend</title>
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		<dc:creator>collingwoodlegend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seat is very winnable for labor. The 2004 result in Gladstone was relatively poor for the ALP. Chris Trevor is a proven &#039;vote winner&#039; in that area, and while Glen Churchill may be the mayor of the Banana shire his popularity was extremely limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seat is very winnable for labor. The 2004 result in Gladstone was relatively poor for the ALP. Chris Trevor is a proven &#8216;vote winner&#8217; in that area, and while Glen Churchill may be the mayor of the Banana shire his popularity was extremely limited.</p>
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		<title>By: David Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Neville, even. I was confusing the MP with his seat (which I also managed to mis-spell.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Neville, even. I was confusing the MP with his seat (which I also managed to mis-spell.)</p>
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		<title>By: David Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Bruce Scott and Paul Hinker have any sort of personal vote, then this seat is emminently winnable for Labor.

I&#039;m curious as to which other ungainly entities William might have been thinking of. I shall guess Pearce, Corinella, Longman and Blair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bruce Scott and Paul Hinker have any sort of personal vote, then this seat is emminently winnable for Labor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious as to which other ungainly entities William might have been thinking of. I shall guess Pearce, Corinella, Longman and Blair.</p>
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		<title>By: wysiwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysiwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William @ 17, I&#039;m glad collingwoodlegend could answer that one - I&#039;m well out of touch with Bilo these days.

Just looked at the Biloela 2006 census &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/ViewData?&amp;action=404&amp;documentproductno=UCL305200&amp;documenttype=Details&amp;tabname=Details&amp;areacode=UCL305200&amp;issue=2006&amp;producttype=Community%20Profiles&amp;&amp;producttype=Community%20Profiles&amp;textversion=false&amp;navmapdisplayed=true&amp;breadcrumb=LPD&amp;&amp;collection=Census&amp;period=2006&amp;producttype=Community%20Profiles&amp;#Basic%20Community%20Profile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; basic community profile&lt;/a&gt;; the employment stats are interesting with the biggest sectors in order: mining, manufacturing, retail; with 3% unemployment (compare to nearby Mt Morgan with 15%). The manufacturing is I think largely related to agriculture as Callide Valley is an intensive farming area.

Wish I could find similar stats for the whole valley but there doesn&#039;t seem to be that sort of breakdown. I remember the farming community as quite an ethnic mixture especially german, italian, russian, and greek. Doesn&#039;t show up in the stats for the town which is largely anglo-celtic. Quite a diverse farming community and not stereotype rednecks by any means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William @ 17, I&#8217;m glad collingwoodlegend could answer that one &#8211; I&#8217;m well out of touch with Bilo these days.</p>
<p>Just looked at the Biloela 2006 census <a href="http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/ViewData?&amp;action=404&amp;documentproductno=UCL305200&amp;documenttype=Details&amp;tabname=Details&amp;areacode=UCL305200&amp;issue=2006&amp;producttype=Community%20Profiles&amp;&amp;producttype=Community%20Profiles&amp;textversion=false&amp;navmapdisplayed=true&amp;breadcrumb=LPD&amp;&amp;collection=Census&amp;period=2006&amp;producttype=Community%20Profiles&amp;#Basic%20Community%20Profile" rel="nofollow"> basic community profile</a>; the employment stats are interesting with the biggest sectors in order: mining, manufacturing, retail; with 3% unemployment (compare to nearby Mt Morgan with 15%). The manufacturing is I think largely related to agriculture as Callide Valley is an intensive farming area.</p>
<p>Wish I could find similar stats for the whole valley but there doesn&#8217;t seem to be that sort of breakdown. I remember the farming community as quite an ethnic mixture especially german, italian, russian, and greek. Doesn&#8217;t show up in the stats for the town which is largely anglo-celtic. Quite a diverse farming community and not stereotype rednecks by any means.</p>
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