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It’s a shame the Mayne-Milne Walkley confrontation didn’t explode into an all in, table-hurling brawl. Then The Poisoned One might have copped a couple on his glass jaw and, while lying semi-conscious in an expanding pool of his own vomit, been forced to have a good hard look at himself. Who am I? What is my life really all about? What is truth? Sophisticated, dispassionate, even-handed political journalism, why is that not valued anymore? I’m not that short am I? And alcohol’s not poison anyway. Who said those mean things? Why don’t people respect me? … Who am I? (… repeat fifty times … until Big Bustling Laurie takes his shirt off, smashes a few heads together, orders the lights be tuned up and everybody p*ss off home).
The Coalition are mad associating themselves with Latham’s comments.
All Rudd has to do is say “I disagree with what Mark says while my opponents seem to agree with him”.
Agreeing with Mark Latham is not a good look in a community that widely regards him as a nut case. (even those of us who voted for him!)
It may be my imagination and I may be speaking too soon but have the anti – union ads left the scene? It’s been a while since I’ve seen one.
Typically Sky News are running a poll on Latham’s comments.
Passthepopcorn,
Thanks…I’ve already established contact and he is on a book launch tour and we will have a chat after the election concerning the project, as I require people of his talent and vision.
If I have to rely on politicians, our grandkids will have no future.
The article quoted by Pancho #312 http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/PM-unsure-over-Bennelong-in-opposition/2007/11/09/1194329465912.html
Had a very interesting quote by JWH
And that’s a good thing for Howard. He rules by exploiting fear and division. I’m looking forward to a leader who will lead by inspiring.
scaper. what project are you referring to?
As far as internal polling is concerned, the only things you can place any trust in are the official polls (once they’ve been interpreted by some pseph you can trust of course) and what the bookies are saying. The polls are saying Labor in a canter, and the bookies are saying Labor in a canter. Seat by seat not so much, but head to head it’s no contest.
We know both internal polling and media commentary are tainted by bias (though I think the media issue is more about creating the perception of a contest, rather than mere spruiking in most cases), so all of that can be taken with a grain of salt.
Everyone around here gets very antsy without a poll to chew on.
351 Inner Westie. Have a look at the Milne/Garrett photo on Mumble’s site.
Can be creatively read many ways.
http://www.mumble.com.au/
Forget that one…just realised that ‘L’ applies to Labor as well!!!
Doh! This election is more nerve-wracking than the last one….driving me to take up smoking!
And whatever happened to the immediate post-war demographic-surely boomers start from 1946?
As polling day approaches, I suspect Howard worries most about telling Janet she has to hand the keys to Kirribilli back. That should be a lot of fun.
Check out the poll done in SA on the senate by political students at a university.It is on the ABC radio website. If the vote goes along with this poll we could see 2lab 2lib 1grn 1xen.
recieved letter and leafletfrom local member (ticehurst)
letter mentions 9 point plan
leaflet mentions only 7 point plan
must be those pesky rate rises
CL de Footscray: I listen to Marius Benson’s interviews every morning. I couldn’t handle not having News Radio with breakfast.
Thanks Nick I will keep an eye on that Jackman site. megan I have been fighting off the smoking cravings in the past week and i’ve been winning. I know where you’re coming from though
George Newhouse’s mother responds to Lucy Turnbull:
You might enjoy this, particularly those of you who have received Lucy’s letter about the man she loves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLQaKA6n5qo
Et tu, Centaur_007?
Phil Robins @ 323
Yes, I heard that yesterday on radio. Spooky – sounded as though he was, well, drugged? Weird stuff about divorce and fertility rates. Haven’t read or heard anything since, which I find surprising. Maybe his spin doctors convinced the media outlets to can it, pleading that the PM wasn’t himself.
As the great man sung – “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows…” And we all know the wind is a gale now and where it is blowing…go get him, Mike..
This election is feeling very much for me like the 1992 election did in the US. 12 years of the Republicans, way too long, they had overstayed their welcome. Similar to here now in 2007, all of the polling seemed to point ahead of time to Clinton’s victory. Thus, there was an underlying confidence for those on the left hand side of the political spectrum. I remember watching the returns that year. I was at home, 2 others with me. I was the Democrat voter in the middle of the 3 seater couch and on one side of me, I had a Republican voter and on the other side, someone who voted for the Independent. It was exciting to watch the states come in and one by one, the vast majority of them ticked over for Clinton.
Check out this cartoon (from the afterglow of the Democrats victory in 1992) and imagine it transposed to Kirribili House/The Lodge with John and Jeanette and that it is the Ruddsquad who are coming in to move them out
….
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oliphant/vc007253.jpg
Middleman,
I call it “The Great Southern Cross Project”
The sponsored web site is being built and it is a national infrastructure and environmental project bigger than anything ever done in the past.
I’m still working to get the logo right.
http://www.greatsoutherncross.org/draft_logo_variations.pdf
“Diogenes Says:
November 9th, 2007 at 9:38 am
On the media, I am going to officially call Rudd a political genius. Think about his relaxing of FOI laws. All the dirt the Rodent has been hiding for 11 years will come out (the laws are retrospective). There will be enough material for the media to report for three years, until the next election. New revelations about Haneef, AWB, Tampa, Hicks, SIEV, WMD… the list goes on. And it helps get Ruperts endorsement. Glen and all you other sad rodent followers, its going to be a LONG LONG DARK WINTER.”
Diogenes – I expect that there will be a flurry of document shredding on the weekend of the 24th the like of which Canberra has never seen before, and hopefully will never see again
Poor Mike. I really do think he’s in beyond his depth.
Before he left the ABC he;d occasionally try and do things other than weather – do a live report to ABC radio from an ABC Open Day, that kind of thing.
Excruciatingly embarrassing. I almost crashed my car recoiling from embarrassment at one particular exchange.
He’s a bit like Tony Eastley at the end of AM on Radio National when he crosses to Fran with some particularly dorky comment.
Go Latham!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22729233-601,00.html
ed@bennelong @359
The caption: “I can’t pretend I’m happy to see you Glenn. You’re smiling completely the wrong way. So how ’bout a bunch of these to sober you up (you grubby little soak)?”
Not sure if this got mentioned already, plus apologies for rehashing yesterday, but did we all realise we have Mr Shanahan to thank for the whole ’sorry…but not really’ fiasco? Shanahan was the one to ask “Mr Howard, if you’re not responsible for the interest rates rise, why did you apologise for it?” leading to Howard’s fumble.
It sure made me smile (read into it what you will).
Also doesn’t Morgan normally come out at 1pm? So in half an hour or so for you Southerners.
Lathams little entry into the election debate reminds me of the Chaser episode earlier this year…
“I am the ghost of Mark Latham…. I was ahead in the polls too… I filled you all with same false hope Kevin is…. Ease the Squease……”
too funny…
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22729612-12377,00.html
Seems to be hosing down expectations somewhat…
#340 Centaur, I’m pretty sure Portlandbet has ALP ahead in 16, 2 dead-even (which they count as 1 seat apiece), thus the 77-71-2 current headline.
scaper,
interesting…. not sure of your influences etc… but i would love to see someone who is focussed on the environment engage Peter Andrews… micro climate extraordinaire!
FF @ 336:
I believe Latham quit the party shortly after the 2004 election.
Vaile says Latham’s comments show Rudd is plagiarising Coalition policies. Good! He took the bait and endorsed Latham. Otherwise this is a complete yawn.
Apparently virginia trioli has got the flick from abc radio…
374 Sure Rudd will be really happy to see Howardhuggers cheering when Latham calls Rudd a conservative. Think Latham might be having the last laugh here.
Good Grief-Another turning point in the election? First it was the Garrett comments on a post-Kyoto agreement, then it was Garrett again with Price, then the rate rise, now Latham. Is Milne permanently p*ssed these days?
Middle man,
I’m apolitical now as I have to deal with all parties and to be effective I can’t side with any.
But I know for the benefit of the nation a change of government is most important, and if does not ensue, our social fabric and all the values that Australians hold close to their heart will be lost.
This is the most important election of our history.
Rudd will be thanking Latham for his blessing – it certainly can’t hurt. But listening to Rudd on Adelaide local ABC this morning l was struck by the way he came across – he sounded like he wasn’t really listening to the questions and he was quite verbose at moments when a clear simple message would have cut through more more effectively. If he wants to capitalise on the Duck being “out of touch” he will have to work on his presentation. A few colloquialisms scattered in a sea of wonk-speak do not a man of the people make. Just MHO..
Breaking news on SMH website:
What? Has internal polling shown that the mob IS after Howard? Alas, it’s referring to a bat virus.
scaper – good to see you’re remaining apolitical
Latham must live in a different world because housing prices where I come from have gone through the ‘roof’.
Milne should do himself a favour and drop Costello for Turnbull – at least he knows Turnbull won’t be too scared to go for the job.
I think we should not be refering to some of these people as journalists out of respect to real journalists – better to call them party reporters.
I wouldn’t be worrying too much about Morgan. I had a look at their 2004 effort near election time – you don’t want to get mislead like that this time.
Shiftaling
I agree – same with the Lateline interview last night
Sky news are recycling an AC Nielson poll giving a demographic breakdown by age, published last week by Fairfax. They claim it as the top election story of the day and that it was last updated sometime after 11 EST. I guess its just a slow news day with all the pundits hanging out for a post interest rate rise poll.
Scaper. I hear you mate. I’ve long wanted to be involved but finding a party that matches my sensibilties is quite tough. It’s certainly not teh Libs, and Labor is just a bit too hamstrung by its traditions. The Dems… well maybe if they actually truly existed.
Does anyone know how big the sample is on Roy Morgans “My Electorate” site for each electorate. I live in McPherson on the Gold Coast which is classified as very safe Liberal. I think the margin from 2004 is about 15%. Morgans site is showing TPP for Labor as 61%. It is held by Margaret May who is useless and her opposition is Eddy Saroff, a well known and liked GCC councillor. I just joined Sportingbet and got $3.50 for Saroff, plus $100 free bet which I plonked on Maxine in Bennelong @ $2.75. Whoopee, here comes the tidal wave to sweep the Rodent to a watery end, and we haven’t even begun on his plans for 26 nuclear reactors yet.
388 Has the Minister for horseflu stuffed up again?
BF – ignore it. You’ll only be disappointed.
Steve @ 384
Latham’s doing Rudd’s work for him. A conservative! How Rudd must detest being called that (and by someone who everyone knows isn’t trying to do Rudd any favours).
Morgan 56-44
http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2007/4237
Latham is a dog. To say what he said when the election is going into the final two weeks, is a deliberate attempt to sabotage the ALP campaign.
There have been many other ALP leaders that have failed – Hayden, Beazley, Crean etc. But none have stooped as low as Latham. He deserves to be the reclusive pariah he is today.
Today should have been about Howards non apology, but frikkin Latham has turned it into an issue of why vote for Labor when they are the same as the Libs.
Morgan for real!
Telephone Morgan Poll: ALP Lead By 12% In Wake Of Interest Rate Rise – ALP 56%, L-NP 44%
http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2007/4237/
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