Curiously, all we have from Morgan so far is a small-sample telephone poll conducted over the past two nights showing Labor’s lead at 56-44, about half way between last week’s face-to-face and the previous phone poll a fortnight ago. The press release continues to assure us that “the ‘face-to-face’ Morgan Poll is the only Australian public opinion poll conducted every week”. So where is it?
UPDATE: Morgan have just added a new poll from the same sample covering attitudes to the Tamar Valley pulp mill, so maybe they’re not done for the day.
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All your bases will belong to us!
Might have a few vitamin B’s tonight.
Hoo - rah!!
Re “Knock Over Old Lady Scumbaggate”. Its what happens when ordinary people get sucked up into the howard spin vortex. That women got too close. Labor need to call for a Royal Commission.
Morgan is accurate because it includes people who only have mobile phones.
(Yeah I know I’m off to take my pills).
Howard who???????
did Howard breathe on her or something? Poor woman she’s lucky to still be with us…..
for mine, it’s certainly the photo of the campaign… that look on Mr. Howard with his finger wagging! the sprawled prostrate woman, clutching her head… in real pain _and_ absolutely no-one from the government helping! it’s priceless! It’s captures precisely what Howard has done to middle Australia…
Looking at the picture a little closer it could be the member for Goulborn
John of Melbourne Says:
November 9th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Let it end I’m here
Hi John, tell me though, why have your guys gone so cold on the “TEAM” thingy of late, has that been ditched now?
George Newhouse’s mother responds to Lucy Turnbull:
You might enjoy this, particularly those of you who have received Lucy’s
letter about the man she loves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLQaKA6n5qo
Where is the picture of Howard knocking the woman over with his breath?
Well, dipping inot the Morgan toolbox, my theory is that the discrepancy between Morgan phone and F2F (in this case 5%) is an exact measure of the “Howard voting as dirty, embarrassing secret vice” factor.
Id say we’re about 54-46 in reality. AC Nielsen will tell us. Its the only poll worth a pinch of shit, IMHO.
Though again, I would say read the others for trends, not values. Clearly, there’s a small movement to ALP over the last 5 days.
…most humourous photo since that one with Mr. Beazley and the chicko roll in the takeaway… was that 98 or 2001?
The woman who was knocked over was Samantha Maiden
Here is the photo
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200711/r198876_758937.jpg
Gerr… photo of fallen woman…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/09/2086754.htm but click on the photo for an enlargement…
There was an old Rodent from Wollstonecraft
Who in his dithering days became awful daft
Cabinet started to worry
He can’t apologise but says “sorry”
And then his government’s numbers were cut in half
How defeated does Tip look on Agenda.
the stupid sod is trying to explain his point to David Speers…who seems confused.
how is Mr and Mrs averaged supposed to understand his message.
they are so confused.
the bastards have been asleep at the wheel ,thinking Crosby_Textor and OUR ad money, would win it all again for them.
slither off into the ethers you miserable Coalition.
WOW, thanks you guys, Yeah I think previous poster was right this could be the handshake moment, partic when you get the overall context of the story, hecklers, ppl refusing toshake his hand etc etc….
scumbaggate is the current handshake moment favourite though it could be neck and neck with the non apologygate which im favouring.
We’ve got to find that moment!
Also according to this pohotographic evidence (CSI if you will) Howards breath has a range of about 3 meters.
John Rocket # 193 LMAO
Let it end # 203. don’t know what’s going on with the team thingy of late… probably JWH is doing a good job on his own.
Let it end what happened to Labors productivity argument where did that go?
Gerr the lady on the floor was a Union official, lol. She fell because the cleaners were on strike and there was no one to clean up the spilt drink on the floor. LMAO
Laughter is the best medicine.
What happened to Lose the Election Please. Maybe he was posted by lib headquarters to another site??
61-39 is quite bad for both sides at this stage of the game. Doesn’t really help the Mt Everest narrative and might let some think they are off the hook and don’t have to vote Labor to get rid of WorkChoices.
I wonder what Kroger’s spin will be on Lateline tonight if he is on.
Kroger: “Look, this interest rate rise hasn’t hurt the government, Labor has only gained 2 points from the poll of 59-41 a couple of months ago and now everyone is discussing the economy which is the government’s strength. I would expect the polls to narrow from here”.
The guy on the right looking at him and the yawning minder in the background are what really make that photo. Hope the lady pulls up ok.
Centaur_007 179
Thanks although I have some excellent quality sparkling reds (which I highly recommend) that taste lovely, are made in Australia, and seem most fitting for the defeat of a government that has trully put the “Con” back into Conservative.
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I know we must stay disciplined etc. But if there is one thing this campaign has shown to me so far, Kevin Rudd really is ready to be PM. He is smart, disciplined and emotionally mature. Even when some have stumbled he has remained calm and not over reacted. I think people are seeing that.
She dropped to the floor because someone had told her this was the appropriate (formal) manner in which to greet a dictator.
The deliciously named ’scumbaggate’ will only resonate with the same frequency if it is aired on the commercial news. Lateline might be the only news worth its salt, but its on ABC at 10:30, not exactly the height of popular viewing.
HarryH, Confused is right. Howard did so well for so long because he could stay on message and get the rest of the party to do the same but this election is a complete mess. ‘Go for growth’ seems gone because it is economically stupid in the current inflationary climate, yet he and Tip don’t have a coherent 2nd policy line other than it would all be worse under Labor. They can’t explain why that might be though other than it will somehow be the unions’ fault. Also, for all they criticise Labor for not being able to ruduce housing stress, they don’t have anything of their own to address the problem either other than maintain the surplus.
If you compare that to Labor, the message has been solid all along. I don’t think that there will be much more me tooing though (unless it comes from the Libs) because, quite frankly, it would be stupid to agree with anything the Libs say from here on in (for a starter, you wouldn’t even know what you are agreeing with).
Maybe she fainted when Howard told her that she was going on an AWA and that she would earn 94% above those on a collective agreement.
TurningWorm @ 218
My mate, who I don’t think has ever watched Lateline in his life, caught it last time Kroger was on was was like ‘Gee that Kroger guy is a complete idiot’. Made my night LOL
John not sorry yet
John point at woman laid low
Run john run away
At least we know the Penrith casualty wasn’t a member of Get Up!
@221
LOL
People - do not count your chickens. There are 2 weeks to go… It is likely that Labor will win, probably by a narrow margin, but if something dramatic happens between now and then, who knows…
We all know that John Howard has few scruples when it comes to winning elections.
to Howard: I’m SORRY to vote you out this election
to others: I APOLOGISE for voting for Howard in the 2004 election. It’s just that Latham scared the sh*t out of me Should have given my vote to Democrats instead, but then that would still let the scumbag slipping in
John Of Melbourne 214.
The old Lady is obviously a UNION BOSS who wanted to turn the lights off in the whole shopping center. Instead Howard knocked her over and turned her lights off. NO APOLOGY NEEDED.
And his supporters know about wine….
Aus declare at 4/551. Symonds got 53* and Clark 153*.
She was a suicide bomber that Howard disarmed with his death breath.
It’s Morgan - only us and a couple of desperate staffers will take notice.
This Morgan F2F is good for the WTF factor and just adds to the somewhat surreal turn the campaign has taken in the last week or so (the knocked out lady incident included).
Ahh lovely, channel 10 has it in its headlines.
TofK - what’s in the headlines? The morga results? or the lady in the tracksuit being knocked out by jonhnie’s entourage?
The lady fell head over heals for JWH
levine on newsradio now talking about the 61-39 (22% poll)
She’s probably still writhing around in casualty as we speak, popping panadeine forte like smarties. Poor woman. I guess it would have been easier if she’d taken out private cover …
Newsradio just announced F2F poll of 22%. Morgan rep says its after Abbot and everyone talking up interest rates rise.
John,
Probably escaped your attention but seems labors productivity argument is now very much at the heart of the inflation problems Howie is having. Believe Stevens referred to it as capacity constraints didn’t he.
I think Howie is in dire straights trying to run the show himself,. Been reduced to telling everyone workchoices keeps wages down after spending $600 mill of advertising over the last 6 months telling everyone you earn more with workchoices. Is he now agreeing with the Union campaign? Bit confusing don’t you think? What happened to big Joe’s claims workchoices pays 96% more, that went quite pretty quick with release of inflation figures
As for the team, I think they’ve deserted you John, they’ve all gone AWOL on Howie
Even you must admit the Lib campaign is an utter debacle, that’s what happens when you have no plan and just cobble together some pork.
241 Hope they called a lawyer and a doctor for her.
Eastern State news watchers, if the news bulletins do include it - could you tell us whether they also included any of the footage of ppl yelling ’scumbag’ and ‘disgrace’… and if they do, whether those ppl are ‘ferals’ or ‘kath and kimers’
I suspect the more long last pain will be as a result of the pictures of her writhing on a shopping centre floor in a track suit. Poor thing
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