The Age has published the third of ACNielsen’s online polls, which are taken from a representative sample of around 1400 volunteer market research subjects. It shows Labor leading 56-44 on two-party preferred, the same result as the previous such survey a fortnight ago. However, Labor’s primary vote is down two points to 45 per cent, with the Coalition also down a point to 40 per cent. John Howard has picked up three points on the preferred leader question directly at the expense of Kevin Rudd, whose lead is now 50 per cent to 42 per cent.
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ACNielsen online poll: 56-44
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# 247
How about:
Lady, I allready have a doormat, his name is costello.
I knew there was a reason I still got the GG. There was an excellent bit in there which was relevant to the election. It was Halliday’s top 100 wines. Turn to the Bubbles section and make a state-appropriate choice for the 24th (I’ll go with Croser). And to the WA and NSW bloggers, there don’t seem to be any decent ones from your states. There’s gotta be a market there!
Gidday again Derek,
No I’m not in the business. Interestingly, I found out about APN’ plans to sub overseas by reading one of the (rival) Fairfax papers – Wellington’s Dominion Post!
I would say that all of the musicians who have given of their time in the last year or so for anti work choices musical fundraisers and climate change concerts are endorsing Labor
… Maybe not explicity, but implicitly …. I don’t have a full listing of the bands who played those concerts though. That would go all the way back to the gathering at the MCG almost 12 months ago now and several more events in the last year as well.
249 It is Howard Liberals being so accountable for the taxpayer’s money it spends on pork that amuses me. Another reason to vote them out enmass.
240
onimod Says:
NSW Nurses have launched advertising I haven’t seen before – granny with a walker calling for a nurse in a darkened empty hospital.
I’ve seen that one before, about 3 weeks ago. It is very simple and effective.
Derek,
I can’t find the relevant article in the Dominion post, but the decision was even reported in Australia earlier this year:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,22232589-7582,00.html?from=public_rss
Re 240,
onimod Says:
Saw that one too myself during the cricket on Friday here in Sydney. It is a sure fire winner and I bet that ad ALONE will be able to swing heaps of votes all over the electorate. The 60+ crowd as well as younger folks who have parents in that age group …… wonderful angle to be attacking Work Choices from
:):)
Found a new candidate to join the team at Liberal Party Election Headquarters.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/boat-sinks-on-first-outing/2007/11/09/1194329493939.html
Derek, oops I was wrong about the sub-editing being contracted overseas. I think that was just a rumour before the decision was made.
“Now, give me back my manbag”.
Hockey may as well resign now.
http://blogs.news.com.au/news/blogocracy/index.php/news/comments/mr_howards_ir_monster
256 Steve. The info the PS was forced to give the Libs http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/news/local/general/ps-used-in-cheat-sheets-for-govt/1084013.html
is just one of the many reasons I’ll be laughing my a** off when this disgusting %$#@!@@#!!!##$$$$ $#@!!! of a Prime Minister loses his seat on the the 24th.
That and the $160 I’ll win from sportingbet.
Looks like $weetie almost embarrassed himself here.
http://www.economics.com.au/?p=1183
Since we’re re-visiting captions for the fallen woman photo, I thought I’d resubmit the one I posted yesterday.
I told you I’d smack you in the mouth if you mentioned interest rates again.
“Christ tell me Hyacinth didn’t just deck Prue”
Bushfire @ 242
That will do me! Nice, nice!
BTW. Impressed by your use of bold type. Dunno how to do that … but now working on election night hunker-down strategy.
1. Buy some refreshments
2. Charge batteries for transistor radio
3. Find ear phone thingys
4. Wipe TV screen and adjust tuning to ABC for the wife
5. Buy some refreshments
6PM – retire to backyard with dogs (two boxers and a small yapper) … say to them: “Doggies. The deed is done” …. insert ear phones … all howl at moon … then check with wife … go out for joyful howling … check with wife … howl … buy some refreshments … bay at moon … doggies enjoying themselves … check with wife … start talking to dogs … “good, that bastard’s gone …” … “and that dollop of shite .. and … “Yep,doggies – swing is on …”
7pm or thereabouts: Stand upright and proceed inside towards television screen. “Hello wife – what’s happening?” Calm as a cucumber, me. Jo Anne says: “We’ve won.”
At this point, your correspondent leaves the room, followed by three doggies. Serious ratting and joyful howling …
168
Thommo Says:
November 10th, 2007 at 9:12 am
This poll still to me represents a narrowing.
Most people dont play with themselves in public Thommo, but hey, knock yourself out mate.
The only narrowing for the Libs is the number of days left to political demolition of their party.
So the “Mman of Steel” that invades Iraq is scared of a little sheep.
LUCY the sheep is behind bars after being arrested at a John Howard campaign event.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22734851-12377,00.html
I read where Andrew Robb is now accusing Rudd of pinching a phrase from a bloke who in the 1980s, Vic Fingerhut, was a pollster and campaign consultant to the notorious Tobacco Institute who devised campaigns to defend ‘Big Tobacco’ and discredit anti-smoking activists. That phrase is working families.
Is this bloke Robb for real? Is that the best they can do? Is there anything else they’re going to try and pin Rudd on? For heaven sake if that’s all they’ve got the game is well and truly over. Unbelievable.
“Man…..”
Gary, when I hear Andrew Robb I always think about upping my wager on the ALP.
Supposedly he’s one of their guns. lol
Don’t get ahead of yourself people. This poll is meaningless. The fundamental flaw it has is that it relies on people being interested enough go onto the website and participate, and most people that are interested are not swinging voters. Look no further than this forum for evidence of that. AC Nielsen seems to be the most reliable poll, but no relationship should be drawn between the regular poll and this online poll.
Just got back from a Labor campaign event at Thorndon Park here in Adelaide. Thanks ShowsOn for the tip!
Was quite fun – Rudd and Gillard were there, together with Tony Zappia (Makin), Mia Handshin (Sturt) and Karen Lock (Barker). John Faulkner was there too!
Just your standard meet and greet with doorstop I guess, but it was great to see everyone up close in person. I had a chat to Mia and Tony afterwards and they both seem like great candidates.
mytym, I’m going to trust the ACN might have considered that point when they undertook their methodology.
I think it’s spot on. (Still just my opinion, but I think at least their choice is less likely to be an “oh bugger it, I’ll vote Labor/Howard” that newspoll and other phone polls can be.)
275 The problem of repeated tax cuts. Hope Labor deliver theirs in the form of Superannuation or some way that is less inflationary than what $weetie has come up with so far.
http://petermartin.blogspot.com/2007/11/saturday-forum-superbank-more-powerful.html
The problem over the electoral briefs is not that they were compiled by the departments but the reasons the management accepted for not releasing them or the level of charges that they sought to levy.
The information should be out there for the public to see. It will certainly add t the sum of public knowledge and is justified as being an element in accountability for public expenditure.
don’t know how they did the costing for the proposed charges – its rubbish. If the material was prepared as it clearly was accoring to the papers account, the cost of pulling it out for FOI would be minimal.
The action by the departments is well outside the spirit of the FOI act. It is also politically dumb – but if it leads to an incoming government doing something to seriously improve the administration of the FOI act then that would be a fitting result if an unintended consequences.
#271, Howard is in Penrith again today?! If only I had known.
Kiwipundit
Thanks. Informative. Bingo subbing at its extreme. Next they’ll replace subs with a political, spell-check software program. Shite in, sausage out. So sad.
Cheers.
I have asked Centrebet to provide odds of what time the victory speech will occur for Labour, they are framing a market as we speak.
#268, what a hoot. Our election bbq is serving up a John Winston Howard roast.
My friends are calling me a tight*rse as I have offered free beer until Labour win. I hope we can get through nibblies before the night is over.
Now only if Maxine can win and destroy the much yearned for legacy. Give me an M, give me an A>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Labor is the phony deal!
Liberal is the real deal!
Tabitha sweetie that is lovely.
Question for the journos who blog here. If all the readers of Poll Bludger agreed not to hit the GGs website on a particular day under any circumstances, as a gesture of protest against the Shamahan shenanigans and other violations against fair and balanced reporting, would it show up in their statistics? Would it cost them money? Would it send a message?
Liberal elects women to parliament
Labor in parliament fuc*s women over
Derek at 268
Your responses can be written to include basic html code. For example, to get bold you enclode the word to be bolded with -
left angle bracket b right angle bracket. To end bold , you do -left angle bracket /b right angle bracket. So it looks like this [b] phrase in bold[/b] but use instead of [ and ]. If you want italics then use i instead of b…othe rthings are possible too…
Tabitha, show it to mummy and daddy, they’ll be so pleased. You can write.
That should say but use “” instead of [ and ]. (Hope that displays…
Obviously angle brackets won’t even display when in quotes!
Long time Poll Bludger addict, rare poster.
The dead tree version of the Canberra Times reports a surge in young ACT voters is putting pressure on senator Gary Humphries. Electoral Commission figures show the ACT has experienced a dramatic rise in the number of first time voters and that there are more of them proportionally than in other parts of the country.
Story has Malcom Mackerras predicting the shift in the voting demogratic would see Greens candidate Kerry Tucker win the second seat and Labor’s Kate Lundy the first.
Gives Getup much of the credit, but gives no figures.
Yah booh sucks Howard and your unfair electoral laws. Let’s hope they bite you in the bum!
Tabitha thinks she is a doll
Everyone else thinks she is a moll
Tax cuts from Tanner
Tablets for Tabitha
Test
This [b]is[/b]a test.
Grog @ 164,
I’ve been thinking exactly the same thing. Unfunded super is a whopping great fiscal vacuum that needs filling and is there at just the right time as a reduction in pressure is needed. Glaringly obvious really.
Grumblebum – don’t give up hope!!
Everyone is saying John H will need a tampa/9-11 type event to rescue the situation….well….what happens if he gets an event like that but it is state-based only (ie not national)?
Which state would it have to be in?
The Melbourne Age this morning is devoted to some serious questions in relation to high-level police corruption. Serious stuff, full page, loud headlines etc
Now would this sort of law and order issue sway a state swing?
Glen @ 100
Well put…..keep up the fight!
Matthew @ 127
One of the few level headed comments here……theres plenty of time for hubris and celebration after the event. What we’re seeing here is excitement whipped up by polling (most recently) derived from dodgy, unproven methodology. It pays to remember that all of these polls (even the so called ‘reputable’ ones) are only a reflection of intentions on any given day. There are still many voters undecided. Take a deep breath people…..the finish line is in sight, but the horse need to be ridden out.
tabitha Says:
November 10th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
“Liberal elects women to parliament
Labor in parliament fuc*s women over”
Is John Brown back in parliament?
Derek, use angle brackets, not [ or ]. i.e. less than symbol and greater than symbol
PJK for President (and quite right, too)
Er, not used to Windows – mainly work on Mac. Thanks for tips. Telstra’s wireless modem will not work with my Mac laptop.
Plans for election night?
Thanks to all the Tories who frequently ‘contribute’ to this site.
The more you express your views, the more I am convinced of mine.
Again, thank you!
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