Talk of a Bennelong poll from the Daily Telegraph prompted much excited chatter yesterday, but it turns out to be a semi-qualitative “study” with a sample of 200. John Howard has 87 backers against 86 for Maxine McKew, with “only one in five swinging or first-time voters” backing Howard. The Townsville Bulletin brings us a poll of 209 respondents in Herbert, conducted by consultants AEC Group. It shows Labor’s candidate George Colbran and Liberal incumbent Peter Lindsay each on 41 per cent of the primary vote, with Colbran leading 53-47 on two-party preferred – a swing of 9 per cent. A similar poll published in early September produced the same result.
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I admit I can’t find the Lib policy doc but how long does a “first home buyer” have to actually live in the “first home”?
I have no kids in this situation but my brother has three. Could I gift him a few hundred grand to get 3 CGT free rentals for his kids?
Spin:
Milne: John Howard has delivered a knock-out blow to the faltering Rudd campaign. In a clear message to ute-driving voters and red necks, Mr Howard declared: “We will continue to decide who comes … into our nation.”
Jeez, even the silly boxers perked up on that!
Shanahan: This is a bold statement from John Howard that will go to the wire. On the night, but consider the alternative on the night. Besides which, it is not clear about nightness. On the night.
Uhlman was an absolute disgrace on PM. He was waxing about it being Howard’s “strongest performance of the campaign” and was really talking up the whole thing. The polar opposite of what everyone here and many in the MSM have been saying throughout the afternoon.
And Vaile equating an education revolution with something that happens in a Communist country? WTF?
And Mal Brough excepted, the Libs all looked so damn old.
: ) davidoff
GG @ 441
Yes mate the Seeker does resonate with me in a Howardesque kinda way. Yet a song called Loser from a band called 3 doors down really nails it in LIBERAL way big time!
Good song too.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=GytyF0w9BL4
I am absolutely non-plussed by the advertising of the Third Party in the Coalition. Darwin is being bombarded with “soft on crime” and pictures of Claire Martin etc. Does Tollner (and his wise advisers) really think that people are so disconnected that they can’t tell Territory Govt’ issues from National issues.
Not a word about Uranium Disposal or continuing rising interest rates.
The sooner the Coalition is reduced to Two Parties the better. Damien Hale will do the right thing and get rid of this clown from Solomon.
Aussieguru01,
I’ll see your song of angst and raise you the second Liberal choice…………..
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qOrVq4DNFb8
Hmm, Doesn’t Judith Durham look like Janette and/or Melanie Howard ?
I can feel another “The Games” parody
John Rocket: Thanks to this site I got on at 1.90 today in Herbert.
Chris “Toolman” would have to be the biggest dropkick employed by the ABC for some time. I’m boycotting PM and AM on ABC radio until that prick is removed.
Interesting that the rest of the MSM isn’t quite as keen on the Rodent’s speech as Uhlmann and presumably Shanahack tomorrow.
LMFAO The only musical act the Liberals can find is some washed up old hasbeen singer from the 1960s – says it all about John Howard’s Liberal Party in 2007.
The Seekers were a lib front. The bass player, Athol Guy, stood for and was elected to, I think, the seat of Gisborne. A dork. Judith? Don’t know. But jeez she can sing …
HH – that should do it, they’ll probably sack Uhlman now
I didn’t see the whole thing, but Howard didn’t look that bad on the excerpts on the news.
Vaile on the other hand…. god….
I hope they can get the “old man smell” out of the hall before Wednesday.
Yeah, agreed asanque, if I could be bothered I go back through to thread this morning and find the person and thank them personally! as it – they know who they are – and I’m sure they’ll be content feeling that warm inner glow! I was going to put the $30 on Labor, but yeah, Herbert was too good to pass up! Indeed, I never would’ve even thought of the $30/$100 Freebet without Alan H who mentioned it last week! Bloody excellent and if I win, Mr. Bowe will get his tithe! Excellent site – excellent contributors!
Yes, I hope the fumigators and pest control people are cleaning out that hall for Wednesday, a dying Rodent leaves a nasty smell.
I wonder how he felt about that Radical Commie Rudd for singing Georgy Girl with the Chior during Accordiangate ??
The ‘let me introduce my team moment’ was a powerful testimony to the all star cast of first rate plodders that have been running rough shod over the country for 11 years. Unless they happen to pick up an STD, it will be the last clap that any of them are likely to get.
Sean,
That depends whether you embrace their principles or their mistress.
Because we are all election junkies, I thought you might appreciate an insight into ‘how the other half lives’
My wife frequents a baby forum full of mums/mums-to-be.
They’ve started an election thread, some of the posts are quite interesting, there is at least one person who has taken the union are bad’ stuff hook, line and sinker. (To the point of quoting the ads darn near!)
Anyway, worth a browse, if only for the graphical signature with the cat
http://members.essentialbaby.com.au/index.php?showtopic=460499
Lots of pro-labor comments, and most people directing their senate choice to the greens!
GG #457
Heres one from the 60s – I’m a Loser, The Beatles
Doe’s it fit?… who cares!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-yZNxMU7t8
red wombat @ 462 LMAO… I laughed so loud then I scared the cat!…
Sean: good one mate!
Getting Alexander Downer up on stage is enough of a vote loser: the silly twat only has to open his mouth and the Liberal vote instantly declines.
For me it’s Otis Redding: Sitting on the dock of the bay. A time to reflect, a time to be calm, a time to enact revenge, a time to … whistle and wait.
Related to my last post – The ‘Essential Baby’ voting poll (eat your hearts out AC Nielson)
Who will you vote for?
Liberal [ 55 ] [29.10%]
National [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Labor [ 92 ] [48.68%]
Democrats [ 6 ] [3.17%]
Greens [ 27 ] [14.29%]
Independent[ 1 ] [0.53%]
Other [ 1 ] [0.53%]
Family First [ 1 ] [0.53%]
One Nation [ 1 ] [0.53%]
Undecided [ 4 ] [2.12%]
I don’t vote [ 1 ] [0.53%]
thanks S
Alas they wouldn’t let me have some fun by posting a reply…
476: Yeah, on that note, lets leave the ladies to themselves, they are a lot more polite than we are
Mark Banisch on the Liberal policy launch.
http://www.newmatilda.com/election07/index.php/2007/11/12/whitefella-dreaming/
S – yeah I know – I would only have done my best impression of a young mother, though.
which is about as good as my impression of a greek grandmother (which is not very good)
4 Corners looks depressing tonight – suggesting “it’s not over yet, as we discover when Johnathan Holmes meets the swinging voters”
Ausie Guru @ 471
Howard vetoed this……..
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qOrVq4DNFb8
Swinging voter usually equals craven ignorant toss pot. Every 3 years they get to be made special for their airheadedness by having politicians and pollsters hang off their every word.
Ever wondered where the polling booths go in non-election years?
http://www.crikey.com.au/Media/images/FirstDog-WhereDoTheyGo-770d5f57-a531-4f58-8356-aff0996b110f.jpg
I’m still laughing over Vaile’s comment that an educational revolution is like ’something you’d see in a communist country’. I think that’s the stand-out line of the whole election. HILARIOUS.
Had a busy day so wasn’t able to catch the great event – though caught bits on ninemsn recap.
Good to see that we pretty much predicted all the “big ticket items” – tax rebate on school fees – so no doubt the ALP is ready to return that limp serve.
Amazing for a man who wants to focus on the economy he couldn’t find the strength to go big on interest rates… oh well guess that’s so 2004.
Costello played well to the faithful – everyone else (if they bothered watching the last story before the newsreader says, “now turning to sport’) would have wondered what he was going on about with the reds under the bed. (Cold war ended 17 years ago folks)
464 Red Wombat. Comment of the night. Take a bow.
I have finally found someone besides Chris Uhlman who was impressed by the Liberal Launch this afternoon. Must say this summary of it impressed me.
http://governor_general.blogspot.com/2007/11/we-watched-coalitionlaunch-and-it-was.html
Lock ‘em in S, that’s research you can take to the bank!
I think this is more appropriate for JWH.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FVOMReOMYyQ
Just got a tv ad for fran bailey (McEwen) It look like she in some hot water in Mc Ewen
Dave Bath gets into the swing of Howard History rewriting mantra and combines the concept of $weeties ‘Reds under the bed’ jibe,
http://balneus.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/howard-and-putin-soul-mates/
Frank @ 467. I take your point.
This is a disturbing trend in this campaign. Kevin (don’t be fooled by the soft name) Rudd is clearly a red-ragger from way back. Can he play the lute, I cry.
I think we need a new song. Plink, plonk on a 12-string …
Convicts all, let us rejoice
…
Minchin yesterday said Uncle John wouldn’t toss the bank at the electorate – sure he didnt, only 10 frikkin BILLION dollars worth of ‘hopes and dreams’. The road to Damascus has been cut out of Syria and exported to Brisbane, at least for today:
I think he bought the friggin thing wholusbolus to Oz: education, Child Care, Indigenous [sorry got excited], house affordability (especially for first home buyers) and, wait for it..yes sir, you get 2 Prime Ministers for the vote of 1.
Gross moron voter grab bags being thrown out the door at fire sale prices: desperation and miraculous change. Campaign left you stupid ba….d.; campaign left ffs screamed C and T [govern right but campaign left, dickhead]. At last JWH listened today and may save a few seats, but the Coalition are stuffed as a political force in this country for at least 2 elections.
Qld seats like Herbert will make a bloody mess of the Coalition after this one is over, swing baby swing.
I haven’t caught the launch, but from what I’ve read here, it wasn’t that impressive.
However, I’m not sure that it matters what we think?
No doubt the Murdoch Press will have a field day tomorrow, so the key to the outcome of the launch is the mileage they give him.
That was the worst episode of Funniest Home Videos I have seen, until Vaile opended his mouth, then it all seemed kinda funny.
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Michael Says:
November 12th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
4 Corners looks depressing tonight – suggesting “it’s not over yet, as we discover when Johnathan Holmes meets the swinging voters” ”
It’s over. But you can’t blame Four Corners for wanting to attract people over to their program, and they wouldn’t be the only people in Australia who think that scare tactics are the best way to do this…
These clowns of swinging voters featuring on 4 Corners present a compelling case for a benign dictatorship.
495 – phew!
Did you watch it? I couldn’t bear to do so. Keen for a synopsis though.
Flash, it doesn’t say much for the phrase ‘human intelligence’ does it?
Watching it. One voter says Labor has now refused to sign the Kyoto protocol and his wife thinks Labor will stop funding private education. Aaaargh!!
But let us not forget, so many of the idiotic ideas that these ’swinging voters’ on the program are dealing with, are ultimately lies peddled by the Tories and the media. Remember what Hitler said about the ‘big lie’ ?
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