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Bennelong and Herbert “polls”

Talk of a Bennelong poll from the Daily Telegraph prompted much excited chatter yesterday, but it turns out to be a semi-qualitative “study” with a sample of 200. John Howard has 87 backers against 86 for Maxine McKew, with “only one in five swinging or first-time voters” backing Howard. The Townsville Bulletin brings us a poll of 209 respondents in Herbert, conducted by consultants AEC Group. It shows Labor’s candidate George Colbran and Liberal incumbent Peter Lindsay each on 41 per cent of the primary vote, with Colbran leading 53-47 on two-party preferred – a swing of 9 per cent. A similar poll published in early September produced the same result.

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  1. 201
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Rgee where ru?

  2. 202
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    why do the Nats hang out with this lot? they are treated like second class citizens.

  3. 203
    Martin B
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    “the family property is Nareen, near Hamilton”

    Didn’t Fraser sell Nareen a few years back?

  4. 204
    Tory Crimes
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    what the hell is that horrible noise in the background-a monkey playing a synthesiser? An Orang-U-Tan perhaps? Whatever it is, its bloody rank.

  5. 205
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    RGee – why is it weird? I can not see or hear it so I am relying on these second hand accounts.

  6. 206
    John Hunt Is A Coward
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    I am watching it with the sound turned off as I refuse to listen to lies, spin and deceit. The faces and expressions of guests and speakers are more of those attending a funeral or a wake rather than a campaign launch.

    This is the final farewell for the last true believers of Dear Leader Johnny Winston Howard….all so sad…and he could have gone out on top…unbeaten…

    And yet he will leave a loser with his legacy destroyed…it is so sad it is funny!

  7. 207
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    i’m listening via news radio too.

  8. 208
    Darn
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Ave it o7 (22) Has William employed you for comedy relief?

  9. 209
    HarryH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    notice all the empty seats?

    the joint is half full

  10. 210
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Mark Vale currently talking about hospital management.

  11. 211
    Will
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Middle Man: Because the Nats lost their identity ages ago. They’re the bastard love child of the Liberals. They’re given attention when something in the bush is really needed. No wonder the Libs keep winning their seats. And WTF is it with them trying to get the young vote, is that because of that gay Nat guy who was in Big Brother a year or so ago?

  12. 212
    Tory Crimes
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    I ve had to turn the stream off and go back to the radio. The urge to pick up my screen and smash it has proved too much. Horrible, lying negative Tories.

  13. 213
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Hahahhahahh Vaile is hopelsss, has he looked up once yet?

  14. 214
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    15m fund for remote health skills training

  15. 215
    RGee
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    The fake laughter/applause, the wives being introduced, Vaile having zero speaking skills… There is apparent inspiration or vision.

    I’m in Melbourne AG01

  16. 216
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    OOH Communists from Vaille. ;)

  17. 217
    Lindsay voter
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Dan and middleman. So when PJK handed the reins to JWH, what was the net debt position? 96 billion or much less?

  18. 218
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Now talking about a national schools curriculum.

  19. 219
    RGee
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    There is NO inspiration or vision … oops ;-)

  20. 220
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Mark Vaile promises virtual uteruses for country obstetricians, I hope it doesn’t need broadband.

    And he just called the ALP communists because of education revolution, gold!!!

  21. 221
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Vaile is a twit… “Education Revolution sounds like something from a communist country”….

  22. 222
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    restating 1000 bursary scheme for remote students

  23. 223
    HarryH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Kevin Rudd…the Communist.

    Vaile, you idiot.

  24. 224
    Derek Corbett
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    passthepopcorn

    Usual gig from Costello … no, he’s not a great orator … zzzzz … anyway, they have lowered the veil … this should be a hoot … zzzzzz … might have to check out the cricketing …

    Can’t believe how inept this lib launch. It’s Woop Woop Municipal Council stuff … circa 1956.

  25. 225
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    220: Did he really use the word communists?

  26. 226
    passthepopcorn
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    isn’t “bursary” a rather quaint term?

  27. 227
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Most people think a commutist is someone who uses public transport to go to work.

  28. 228
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Vaille – National Roads are YOUR responsibility why do they need to be fixed?

  29. 229
    markmywords
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    225 He sure did

    What a world class goose Vaile is.

  30. 230
    centaur_007
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Has Howard spoken? What are they spend spend spending on? Or are they saving the Monkeys till last.
    Where’s that bearded lady helen coonan?

  31. 231
    mad cow
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Hmm.. William has D day, Possum has E day.

    I’m going for J day :)

    (Judgment day for fans of the Terminator series)

  32. 232
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    moving onto transport infrastructure and fuel

  33. 233
    HarryH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Vaile should have come down the aisle on his skateboard and done his speech in his gangsta baseball cap.

    at least then he might have got a grab on the news tonight.

    not with this drivel though.

  34. 234
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    5m on biofuels

  35. 235
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Labor should employ Hawke’s tactic in 1983: a bit of irony and humour to attack the government’s overcooked fear campaign.
    Labot are economic vandals, communists blah blah blah

    it’s all so overdone that it plays into the narrative about the libs being desperate

    You can finish the ad with Costello’s own line about Howard:

    “He’ll spend anything, do anthing, say anything to win…”

    (Perhaps that wasn’t the exact line, but that was the meaning)

  36. 236
    oakeshott country
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Pritam #159 – Faulkner is a member of the soft left, not the right

  37. 237
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Bring back Tim Fischer!

  38. 238
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    They can’t even organise their ’spontaneous’ applause properly. This isn’t a winner.

  39. 239
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    OMG how BORING is vaile

    he’s going into boring figures

    even the faithful look bored

  40. 240
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Compelling…bucket please!

  41. 241
    C-Woo
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Mark Vaile.
    He’s talking about petrol.
    Ethanol – Something to give the cows as a laxative.

    And for The Angels link:

    Hopefully we’ll be singing
    No way get f**ked f off

  42. 242
    Steph
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I love that even the audience aren’t sure whether to clap or not.

  43. 243
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    confusing size with strength

  44. 244
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Hey, the cricket is over on 9 so they have gone to the Liberal launch. I hope 9 do this for Rudd on Wednesday.

  45. 245
    George
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Boy, you Libs lurking here must cringe when you hear that idiot Vaile describe Labor’s education revolution as a “communist plan” – what a tool.

  46. 246
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    More cheese please!

  47. 247
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Tim Fischer is one of the few conservative politicians with any integrity in the Rodent’s band of wreckers. Disliked his politics, really like the man.

  48. 248
    davidoff
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    well – that wasn’t inspiring either

  49. 249
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    I could hear TV’s being switched off across the nation.

  50. 250
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Howie must be next. Listening to this is gonna hurt!

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