Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth

Newspoll: 55-45

Sky News reports:

On a two party preferred basis, Labor’s support is up two per cent to 55 and the Coalition’s is down from 47 to 45 per cent. The survey, published in The Australian, shows the Coalition has lost two points in the primary vote down to 40 per cent, while Labor remains steady at 48.

UPDATE: The Australian’s graphic here. John Howard is down 3 per cent on both performance satisfaction and better prime minister.

558 Comments

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  1. 201
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    While on the subject of Milne has any one checked out any decent institutions where he can go for therapy after the Libs ‘crash ‘n burn’ on Sat night 24th November. He will need to booked in as early as possible to start treatment!
    The breakdown when one compromises their professional objectivity to become Rupert’s ’sock puppet’ only to be used up & thrown on the heap must be devastating. F#$@ it just book the whole editorial staff of The OZ except for George M. for long term group therapy to work thru their denial.

  2. 202
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    All the last sets of polls showed the Liberal party losing primary votes. This Newspoll creates a trend. The last three newspoll primary votes for the Liberal party: 38,37,36

    It would be kind of funny if they get less than 37.4, which is what Latham got in 2004.

  3. 203
    Matt
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:38 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy @ 200

    Absolutely not.

  4. 204
    Pathological Logic
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:38 am | Permalink

    Anyone here think that the Ruddster will do for Howard what Hawkey did for Malcolm after 83, and find him a responsible official position that draws on his talents?

    And, if so, what might it be?

    Personally I liked the suggestion that was put up a while back.

    Ambassador to Iraq.

  5. 205
    Matt
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    …although Howard is welcome to continue his good work in saving endangered Orangutans, no mockery intended.

  6. 206
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    “204
    Pathological Logic Says:
    November 12th, 2007 at 1:38 am

    Anyone here think that the Ruddster will do for Howard what Hawkey did for Malcolm after 83, and find him a responsible official position that draws on his talents?

    And, if so, what might it be?

    Personally I liked the suggestion that was put up a while back.

    Ambassador to Iraq.”

    Good one. But – with or without the Kevlar vest?

    (Which puts me in mind of a new slogan – Kevlar07)

  7. 207
    Mike Cusack
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Jeez. I can’t keep up with you people, you have been writing faster than I have been able to read.

    I haven’t seen any comment on the ad put out by the nurses. I think it is the most brilliant electoral ad I have ever seen. If I’ve missed someones comment, I apologise.

  8. 208
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy, I’m still barracking for rattus to get Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports. there are several good reasons for this: (i) he would have to be in England, which is excellent for all of us living here (but, I concede, stressful for you over there); (ii) he gets to look like a total dork in a weird hat; (iii) he can pretend he’s RG menzies, and go mad just that little bit quicker; and (iv) QE2 can work out exactly why she hates him, and refuse to give him even a tiny little knighthood, which would really shit Hyacinth.

  9. 209
    kina
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    Rudd could not trust Howard who has a reputation for white-anting from the day he came an MP. As ambassador somewhere etc…Howard would be slagging off at Rudd behind his back.

  10. 210
    Paisano
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    A skillset match for the outgoing?

    http://www.theporkauthority.com/

  11. 211
    Timothy
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    i expect the libs to start up the “wall to wall labor governments” scare campaign.
    its one thing that might work..

  12. 212
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    POLL: HOWARD NOW LOSING SUPPORT AMONG OVER 50s.

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/bmichelle-grattanb/2007/11/11/1194766508063.html

    “Contrary to what you might expect, Zoo isn’t devoted to orang-utans and the like. It is a publication for men and has commissioned — as you would — a Galaxy poll on whether people would prefer to see John Howard or Kevin Rudd naked.

    Hurtfully, if unsurprisingly, only 16 per cent said they wanted to see the PM undressed; 34 per cent nominated Rudd. The PM did have a (narrow) lead among gays, though not with the over-50s.”

  13. 213
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy, I’m still barracking for rattus to get Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports.

    David Flint is inline for that, and since he’ll die sooner, Rodent will have to wait.

  14. 214
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    ShowsOn – Except no-one in their right mind would put Flint in charge of anything, even if it’s just a stupid hat.

  15. 215
    Matt
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    Ok now time for some in-depth analysis:

    Why do gay men prefer Howard over Rudd? Seriously I’m stumped (and likely showing my ignorance of some key fact)

  16. 216
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    Matt – probably MoE.

  17. 217
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    ShowsOn - Except no-one in their right mind would put Flint in charge of anything, even if it’s just a stupid hat.

    Roy & H.G. have referred to David Flint as Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports for about the last 3 years. :-P

  18. 218
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    Cinque Ports? I doubt it. The present incumbent is a youngish man, and also questioned the legality of the Iraq War.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Boyce%2C_Baron_Boyce

    (True, I googled it … but is that such a crime?)

  19. 219
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    ShowsOn – Ah, well, I didn’t realise it was in their gift. I guess he has all the attributes excpet a brain, which come to think of it is really not necessary.

  20. 220
    Paisano
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    Tip: naked gay orangutans (with laptops) on The Chaser this week…

  21. 221
    Matt
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    Mike @ 207

    Yes, the number of post here is swelling to staggering proportions.

    I agree with the nurses ad, it’s particularly good.

  22. 222
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    220 – demanding HECS reductions?

  23. 223
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    “215
    Matt Says:
    November 12th, 2007 at 1:45 am
    Ok now time for some in-depth analysis:

    Why do gay men prefer Howard over Rudd? Seriously I’m stumped (and likely showing my ignorance of some key fact).”

    Sugar Daddy syndrome, I’d guess. And the fact he looks great in leather.

  24. 224
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    Cinque Ports? I doubt it. The present incumbent is a youngish man, and also questioned the legality of the Iraq War.

    Roy & H.G. generally don’t let facts get in the way of their comedy. :-P

    ShowsOn - Ah, well, I didn’t realise it was in their gift. I guess he has all the attributes excpet a brain, which come to think of it is really not necessary.

    EXACTLY! Now you understand why they gave him the title!

  25. 225
    George
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:50 am | Permalink

    Howard’s education fight-back:

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/pms-education-fightback/2007/11/11/1194766508060.html

    Y-A-W-N

  26. 226
    LaborVoter
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    From The Australian:
    “Liberal sources confirmed last night Mr Howard would announce 10,000 weeks of paid respite care for people needing around-the-clock care, giving their carers the opportunity to take long breaks. He will also promise to fund 120,000 days’ worth of daycare for people not requiring full-time assistance.”

    Is that total time this is funded for??? Thats 192 Years of paid respite and 328 Years of daycare… has Howard officially lost it?

  27. 227
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    220 - demanding HECS reductions?

    I doubt Labor would do it, but if Rudd got up at the campaign launch and said every HECS debt will be reduced by 25% on January 1st 2008 if Labor is elected they would be almost universally praised.

  28. 228
    Matt
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy @ 223

    Thanks for that image.

    Night all.

  29. 229
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy – yes, they seem to have started to appoint a higher grade of chap to that gig these days. I doubt that Howard (or Flint’s) experience quite matches the three submarines, the destroyer, the fleets and the fact that he can tell Port from Starboard.

    Oh well, we can dream can’t we?

    Maybe he could be Ambassador to Burkina Faso?

  30. 230
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    OK, this is ridiculous.

    Bon nuit!

  31. 231
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    Maybe he could be Ambassador to Burkina Faso?

    Nah, Rudd should pass legislation forcing Howard to be Australia’s ambassador to Iraq.

  32. 232
    Ricky
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    Howard should run for President of whatever retirement condo he ends up at on Nov 25.

  33. 233
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    Howard’s education fight-back

    ‘a source told The Age. “It will blow Rudd out of the water.” ‘

    Hahahahahahahahahaha

  34. 234
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    Policy in the making …just add laptop!
    http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/1024/orangutan-traveling-forest.jpg

  35. 235
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    ‘a source told The Age. “It will blow Rudd out of the water.” ‘

    Hahahahahahahahahaha

    Sounds like the source was Alexander Downer.

  36. 236
    chris
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    “Garrett heckled at climate change march”
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/071110/2/14w8i.html

    (sorry i’m 5 hours behind) well at least he had the balls to front up.

  37. 237
    kina
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    Howard and Bush could share a flat in downtown Baghdad

  38. 238
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:04 am | Permalink

    (sorry i’m 5 hours behind) well at least he had the balls to front up.

    He handled it pretty well I thought. Just said he was happy to be there and kept smiling. He’s not going to get caught out again. Can’t see him in that portfolio after the election though.

  39. 239
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Home again. I am so encouraged, again.

    It is no way as difficult for those who face up to their elections, with extreme courage, in other countries, but I am reminded of long, peaceful lines.

    Apprehensive, yes. Of retaliation, no. . Howard, winning, yes.

    Baseball bats, no. Softly does it.

    Ready and waiting.

    Waiting.

  40. 240
    codger
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    ‘…the sub-prime spectre stalked, the Prime Minister acknowledged mistakes…’
    wrote the poison dwarf; & laughing Phil owk as ‘the hurry curry plotter ‘ of oz leapt to the organ…did anyone catch the creep on sky ?
    Voter Boy, Krazy Karole-rate rise good for pm- should jump on this rang a tang thingy what with the price of pacific nanny’s ‘n all…

  41. 241
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    A convergence of policies to form a government of national salvatin…

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18064686/
    Follow threads 169, 170 ,171 & so on to get the ‘jist’

  42. 242
    Peter Fuller
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Zedder, Jimmy,
    Corflutes refer to the double sided posters which you see outside campaign offices, and around the fences and entrances to polling booths.
    On the previous thread, there was a discussion about wearing party badges or t-shirts inside the booth when voting. The rule, which has certainly applied in the past, is that this is interpreted as an attempt to influence voters which is not permissible within the polling place, or in its immediate vicinity (which is why those handing out htv recommendations aren’t permitted to stand at the doorway to the hall). Alert polling officials would ask for badges to be removed, t-shirts to be covered.

  43. 243
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:34 am | Permalink

    Mike @ 207

    Yes, the number of posts here is swelling to staggering proportions.

    Fantastic to have a louder voice.

    Re earlier thread, D Day minus 13, which draws our attention to those who would attack bloggers. Sam Maiden’s unutterable article, sure, but the other.

    Thank you, William, especially for bringing Club Bloggery to attention. A well written piece.

    The mere fact that Sam Maiden has found it necessary to criticise bloggers, demonstrates the impact such as William and respondents are having.

    Is truly illustrative of the fear felt by the MSM, or the owner.

    The said Maiden fills in on SA local radio in Tony Wright’s spot, on occasion.

    Cannot help but feel she was cheering for JWH and Co. Along with TW, not to mention Matt and Dave.

  44. 244
    kina
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    The MSM keeps legitimising the blogosphere by complaining about it – thanks. In another 3 years it will be a fully developed world.

  45. 245
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:54 am | Permalink

    Off topic, but just saw our own Adam Carr on this program on SBS:

    11:40 pm The Hidden History Of Homosexual Australia
    How extensive is the history of gays and lesbians in Australia? In The Hidden History of Homosexual Australia, filmmaker Con Anemogiannis presents the untold story of gay and lesbian Australians, from the first settlement right through to the present. He questions how far they really have come, or if are they living out the same patterns and problems of the past. The Hidden History of Homosexual Australia looks at the three main periods that gay and lesbian Australian history falls into: the convict era; the medical period that lasted from the turn of the 20th Century through to the 1960s; and the third period of activism and liberation struggles of the 1960s. (Commissioned by SBSi, in English) (Documentary) (Rpt) M (L,A,S) CC WS

    On topic link – it does cover the Political ramifications of the isse and it did show a bit of the “It’s Time” jingle.

  46. 246
    wysiwyg
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 3:03 am | Permalink

    Bleak’s take on Howard of the Apes:
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/opinion/cartoons/

  47. 247
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 3:11 am | Permalink

    Frank at 245.

    Is that viewable again, somehow?

    I am interested in general and in particular in the topic. The generality being friends, the particular being a nephew who ‘came out’ to me some few years ago.

    I had thought the young man may be. It was a very emotional experience, he did not want to tell his dad, and we were at his dad’s (re) marriage.

    All worked out well, in its course, and once his father, my brother, knew of it, as he himself expressed and acted, had no difficulty at all.

    Sadly, of course, the general tough situation for anyone who is not ‘mainstream’, in whatever way, seems to lie in how they are to say it. And how it is to be received.

  48. 248
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    Is that viewable again, somehow?

    They did mention during the closing credits that the DVD is available from Dymocks.

    BTW, they showed footage of Heffalump slandering JUstice Kirkby in the Senate and El Rodente defending him etc.

    Oh an John Faulkner rally got stuck into him as well :-)

  49. 249
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Frank. Sounds even more excellent.

  50. 250
    tony r
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2007 at 3:24 am | Permalink

    Take a look at this ad:

    http://www.liberal.org.au/info/multimedia/detail/20071109_LivermoreTakesRockhamptonforGranted.php

    Is Capricornia in the mix too?

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