Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth

McNair: 50-50 in North Sydney

Laurie Oakes reports on the Channel Nine News that a McNair opinion poll has Joe Hockey and Labor’s Mike Bailey locked on 50-50 in North Sydney.

UPDATE: Sky News reveals the sample was 400.

UPDATE 2: Unsourced talk of primary vote figures of 44 per cent for Hockey and 41 per cent for Bailey.

260 Comments

Pages: « 12 3 4 [5] 6 » Show All

  1. 201
    haiku
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    refresh, refresh, refresh
    refresh, refresh, refresh
    refresh, refresh, refresh
    refresh, refresh, refresh
    refresh, refresh, refresh …

  2. 202
    beentolong
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    From Australian Website: 54:46 2PP more details tomorrow

  3. 203
    kelly
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    refresh x 100

  4. 204
    BlueSkyMining
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    ….new page….

  5. 205
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Newspoll announced on Sky: 54/46
    Primaries 46/41

  6. 206
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone think they have had the Newspoll figures since the start of the show, and thus it has coloured all their comments?

    Or do you think they only just got it?

    Hockey 44/41 primaries in Nth Syd

    There’s lots of government ministers struggling to crack 45 on primaries.

    Turnbull, Pyne, Hockey, Nair…

  7. 207
    Marktwain
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    54/46

  8. 208
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Newspoll 54-46

  9. 209
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    yay! I predicted it correctly!!!

  10. 210
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    PPM Rudd 46/42

  11. 211
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    dennis – the narrowing, the narrowing

  12. 212
    haiku
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    So ESJ is up for $100

  13. 213
    Pi
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    So… same as always.

  14. 214
    Pancho
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Why is Shanahan dressed as Richie Benaud?

  15. 215
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    hmmm…. what to make of that….. hmmmm……………..

  16. 216
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    My God, I’m shocked!!!! Who would have thought that the polls haven’t moved at all?

  17. 217
    Oldtimer
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Thats Ok! I am breathing again and can probably sleep. Crazy!

  18. 218
    DavidK
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Tomorrow’s News Poll
    Primaries ALP 46, Coalition 41
    TPP ALP 54, Coalitionm 46

  19. 219
    cityblue
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Shanahan is back on his preferred prime minister theorem…

  20. 220
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    I can relax now – it’s the status quo…

    What are the shifts in primaries/PPM?

  21. 221
    Jenny
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Adrian @ 36 – re the ABC’s coverage, I think they’re suffering from having the ruler constantly run over them by Rehame, which is monitoring every minute of their coverage. So if they run a story that’s critical of the government, no matter how important it is, they often drop it from the next bulletin in favour of a pro-government or anti-ALP ’story’, even when it’s not news at all. I’ve noticed this happening with several significant stories of late – the ANAO, Andrews reviewing all the detainees’ documentation etc. The story will run for a very short time, then be replaced by fluff.

    It’s what Janet Albrechtson calls ‘balance’.

  22. 222
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Shanahan banging on about how Liberal are close on primaries

  23. 223
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Shamaham alredy singing Howard and Costello’s praises again on Sky after these numbers… he makes me sick

  24. 224
    Pathological Logic
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Mike is a lovely gentle man and in a short time has made many friends in this electorate. There is however, a large Armenian vote and they will stick with Shrek and his Armenian background. He was campaigning with Gladys Berejiklian, the State MP. again quite popular as she has tackled public transport in earnest.

    Sadly I can see this happening – though I have a lazy $15 on Mike. Sadly because I’m Armenian and one of the few I know who is solidly left. For reasons I’ll never be able to understand, the Armenian block vote, not just in this electorate but generally, trends solidly Liberal. (If Howard scrapes back in in Bennelong, the Armenian contingent there will be pivotal – I apologise on their behalf.)

  25. 225
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    New thread up.

  26. 226
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Primaries though… that’s a significant shift overall

  27. 227
    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    There’s something even better than this! ESJ lost his $100 53-47 bet!!

  28. 228
    Marktwain
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Dennis Shanahan needs a drink – he’s even reverting to the doctors’ wives cr#p – but he is right that Howie and gang are desperate.

  29. 229
    Matt
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Shock, horror, Shanahan talks about Better Economic Manager and PPM…

  30. 230
    Trevor
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Yes, 54/46 – its only a 6.7% swing on 2004.

    Polls haven’t moved all year, why will they move in the last week?

  31. 231
    Dyno
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Same as before, no (or only very mild) narrowing in evidence since week 1 of campaign.

  32. 232
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    a seat by seat proposition…. oh reeeeeally…….

  33. 233
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Primaries: ALP 46 (down 2) Coalition 41 (up 1)

  34. 234
    mad professor
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    moe folks, nothing’s changed

  35. 235
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    PPM: Rudd 46 (down 2) Howard 42 (up 2)

  36. 236
    Maurico
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Well well well…..

    Here we are in the final straight and it looks like we are well and truly in clover.

    The “protest vote” Latham referred to in the AFR has turned out to be no more than about 2-3% (ALP TPP avg prior to election 57). Since the election it has “narrowed” to 54 and stayed rock solid. Gentlemen, please put down your glasses.

  37. 237
    Lefty E
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    HUZZAH!!

    Take that Rodent. Its, like, over dude.

    Here’s the running order for Saturday Night:

    First we take Bennelong. (Embrucement phase)
    Then, we take the Nation (Emruddment phase)
    Then we dismantle the most odious elements of your legacy (Derodent phase)

    The the Libs trash you for a decade. Im afraid we cant control that one.

  38. 238
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Hahahahahaha… then back to back Liberal interest rate and ‘wall to wall’ ads on Sky News after Agenda finished. Don’t these dumbass Libs know that swinging voters don’t watch Sky????? What a waste of money!

  39. 239
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    OK get real everyone

    NARROWING IS HAPPENING!

    By my calculations the libs have probably closed the gap by 0.2% per week since the election was called.

    That means absoulutely nothing in terms of who will win of course, but I’m sure it will be mentioned in the GG

  40. 240
    Lord D
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Why the H is there such a delay in getting the damn thing up on Sky???? It makes me so tense, etc. A 46-41 margin probably means a 7% Grn vote, so Labor’s 2PP is probably better than 54-46.

  41. 241
    GS
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Shanahan doesn’t really know anything else and can’t really compute life without the contacts that have served him sooooo well this year.

  42. 242
    Julie
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Size of the North Sydney poll was 400 sampled.

  43. 243
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    McNair sample for North Sydney was 400 by the way MOE of about 4.5%+

  44. 244
    Dario
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Shanahan doesn’t really know anything else

    Please show some disrespect and call him Sham-a-ham

  45. 245
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Averaging bookmakers odds is logically and practically flawed because it does not reflect the true market probabilties.

    Factors of; individual bookmakers needing to balance their books to a certain degree, odds being offered not in contention of being executed, and differences of overround being offered by each bookie, become taken into account.

    To calculate the true market probability, the best or equal best odds offered in the market should be used.

    So Diogenes, Simon Jackman dosen’t do it properly after all.

    If you don’t believe it, check out the way S.P. are determined at racetracks.

  46. 246
    GS
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Sorry there Dario – I was used to keying in ”Shanahack ” but thought I’d try something new. A bit like I’d like to see Dennis do – like a new thought or a new job :)

  47. 247
    Julie
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Also noted were the swings. Helen McCabe said that the swing in NSW from the last poll taken was @ 7%. The swing in this poll was 10%. That means that Work Choices is worth 3% to Mike Bailey. North Sydney WILL swing more than the average in NSW ;-)

  48. 248
    Enemy Combatant
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Concerned about Minister Malcolm’s splash into Venture Rainfall, I phoned my dear, dear friend Lady Ponsonby-Smythe of Point Piper on the QT.

    On her third sweet sherry, her ladyship was feeling expansive.

    “Well, dah-ling, what do you expect? No self-respecting Water Diviner who knew Rupert or Malcolm would ever DREAM of getting off their ars* for less than $10 mill.!”

    Right you are, ma’am.

  49. 249
    Damien J
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Mark, I’d love to see Cook come into play. I was at Ray Thorburn’s election party when he lost it to Don Dobie in 1975 after taking it from him in 1972. It’s been grim since. Scott Morrison is invisible. He’s been planting posters on local high schools only to have the grounds assistants remove them on the next school day. I also agree, Dana Vale is a vintage peanut.

  50. 250
    Leinad
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    54-46 Lateline preview

Pages: « 12 3 4 [5] 6 » Show All