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Newspoll: 54-46

Sky News reveals tomorrow’s Newspoll will show Labor leading 54-46; primary vote Labor 46 per cent (down two points), Coalition 41 per cent (up one). Details to follow.

UPDATE: Preliminary article at The Australian.

UPDATE 2: The Australian’s graphic here.

697 Comments

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  1. 1
    asanque
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Edward St John will the kind donor to this site.

  2. 2
    Matthew Sykes
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    the end is nigh …

  3. 3
    nostradoofus
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    It’s not getting worse.

  4. 4
    sondeo
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Its not getting better

  5. 5
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Primary vote fluctuations can prob be explained by increased Greens vote (I presume).

    All in all, good news for ALP – status quo is brilliant for the ALP now.

  6. 6
    cityblue
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    If its 54-46 lads, it won’t be a seat by seat battle

  7. 7
    Yoyoma
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Article up at the Oz:

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22787076-601,00.html

  8. 8
    Al from Hindmarsh
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    But, most importantly, (according to Shamahan) Johnny has kept his lead on economic management.

  9. 9
    NGK
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Is Dennis a political advisor for the Liberals?

  10. 10
    Grog
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    46 primary vote – bit low… would’ve liked it to hold at 47.

    Love how Shanahan thiing the coalition vote has narrowed 53-55-54. Yes really narrowed.

  11. 11
    Tory Crimes
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Anyone for 51-49 on Saturdays Newspoll?

  12. 12
    Ashley
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    It’s the “Unmoving”.

  13. 13
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Yehh! Line honours for the last Monday Newspoll thread before the election

    woooooooooooo!

    Seriously, as expected.

    54-46 same as newspoll breakdowns from previous week, around about 90 seats isn’t it?

  14. 14
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Anyone catch Dennis’ look at the end??? He is devestated…. poor didums.

  15. 15
    Samuel K
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    So the tip wasn’t lying. 54 – 46 and a jump in the green primary.

    Makes sense, the Green primary has been too low in Newspoll all year. As people near the election, they lock their actual vote.

    This does not bode well for Team Rodent.

  16. 16
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    How do newspoll do their preferences? Is it on the basis of last election, or do they actually ask?

  17. 17
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Yep, 54/46 = 90 seats for Labor

  18. 18
    Pi
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    More of the same… for one more week.

    And then ding-dong the witch is dead.

  19. 19
    Trevor
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    You would think that these blokes would know something about campaigns. Votes barely change!

    Look at the trend all year – ALP 53-55 2PP – it hasn’t moved!

  20. 20
    Glen
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    We tories only have to make up 2% and we can conceivably win, i wouldn’t be saying this is a good poll for either side.

  21. 21
    blacklight
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    on track for the mackerras 89 seat prediction

  22. 22
    SirEggo
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    87-61 on Antony’s computer…..

  23. 23
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    i’d still prefer to see ACN before i acknowledge that the labor lead wont increase.

  24. 24
    turfmeister
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    This blows out Possum’s prediction, looks like the pace of narrowing means that the Libs will be in sight of victory come 28 April 2008.

  25. 25
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Glen, you’ve made up 2 points in the last 5 weeks – what makes you think the Libs can make up another 2 in the last 5 days?

  26. 26
    Oldtimer
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    54/46 is Ok at this stage. It is a 7% swing on 2004 on TPP.

  27. 27
    Grooski
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    18 Michael – its supposed to be based on 2004, but calculations from previous results have shown it fluctuating rather than being constant

  28. 28
    mad cow
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    I think a lot of labor voters noting that they are winning are tempted to jump to green in the primary..

  29. 29
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    God, Denis was such a Liberal party hack

    crapping on about the economic management mumbo jumbo, he looked so pathetic

  30. 30
    Antonio
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely consistent with the other national polls, and indicative of a comfortable Labor win.

    But, of course, people could be lying to the pollsters. John Howard would be hoping that the liars will vote for him.

  31. 31
    John Hunt Is A Coward
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    GP is really Dennis Shenanigan. Did you notice how GP went quiet just when Dennis went on air?

  32. 32
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Pi. I hope you are right.

  33. 33
    Pi
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Still on track for my 95 seat prediction…

  34. 34
    It's time
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    How much crap can you write about a statistically non-significant change in a sample by 1 or 2%?

  35. 35
    ND
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Oh go on Glen, say its a good poll for the Tories. 8 points behind, 5 days to go, it doesn’t get any better does it?

  36. 36
    Pi
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    # 33 John Hunt Is A Coward Says: November 19th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    GP is really Dennis Shenanigan. Did you notice how GP went quiet just when Dennis went on air?

    That’s it alright. Nowhere to be seen all of a sudden.

  37. 37
    George
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Glen Says: “We tories only have to make up 2% and we can conceivably win, i wouldn’t be saying this is a good poll for either side.”

    I come to this site for the humour…. oh the humanity!

  38. 38
    Marko
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Glen – you must be out of your mind. This is precisely (given the MOE) where the polls have been for TEN MONTHS. No movement whatsoever. None. Nothing at all. Anything resembling movement has just been statistical noise. The electorate hasn’t been coy, hasn’t been holding their cards close to their chests. They made up their minds a long time ago. And now it’s just the wait until polling day…

  39. 39
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    29 – Grooski – thanks. So how come a 3 point change in the primary vote doesn’t change the TPP?
    Amongst the psephs, is it regarded as more accurate to ask for preferences or rely on the last election?
    My concern is that this time a lot of the minor party voters will be protesting against howard but will preference liberal above labor

  40. 40
    Andrew
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Whew!

    My $200.00 on the Coalition still looks like a winner – consolation money for having these tools in power for three more years.

  41. 41
    middle man
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    does anyone know of any election night gatherings happening in Griffith electorate? Feeling comfortable of a victory i think (cripes did i just let myself say that????)

  42. 42
    Burgey
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Poor Dennis – was his hair dark at the start of the campaign?

    He looked like he’d swallowed a bucket of nails.

  43. 43
    BK
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    It’s Time 36

    Dead right!

    All of the movements have been merely statistical noise. If it were a machine making stuff at 54 =/- 2mm there would be no need to adjust it – it would be described as being both in statistical control and capable.

  44. 44
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Michale- why would you say that pref will go to Libs?

    Morgan does one thing right, they ask about preferences and then publish both the “last election” and “stated preference intentions”

    Hasn’t bee much difference actually

  45. 45
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Does Lillian Frank do Denis’ hair? It was a great bouffant tonight…….

  46. 46
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Michael @ 41,

    The 3 point movement in primaries was reflected in a 2 point movement in TPP (from 55/45 to 54/46). The difference is probably due to rounding error or an increase in Greens vote.

  47. 47
    Grog
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    On the economic management question Rod Cameron nailed it last Friday on Lateline. The question is pointless. The question should be “Will Kevin Rudd stuff up the economy?”

    If the overwhelming answer is no, then economic management is largely irrelevant.

    The problem last time for Latham was even a few ALP voters (inc me) had a fair idea he was a good chance to walk into cabinet and say “Well guys, I’ve sold the country to China!”

  48. 48
    Dyno
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    I wouldn’t quite say there’s no narrowing. And I must admit the Coalition has (so far) failed to fall apart in quite the way everyone expected at, say, the time of APEC.
    If there is to be a Howard victory, though, the rabbit will need to be a huge one.

  49. 49
    Michael
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    BBD – not sure. Just an instinctive feel that people might lodge their protest, but then be driven by fear to preference the govt

  50. 50
    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    They talk about momentum in the last week and its all with Rudd. The lead stories seem to be
    1. Debnam saying should have ratified Kyoto
    2. Serfchoices FOI coverup
    3. Turnbull’s $11M to a mate to make rain
    4. Rodent saying Serfchoices will stay forever
    5. RPP rorting
    It’s all good as long as Peter Garrett shuts up!

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