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Patterson: 53-47 to Labor in Eden-Monaro

The Sydney Morning Herald reports on a Patterson Market Research poll from Eden-Monaro showing Labor’s Mike Kelly leading Gary Nairn 53-47 on two-party preferred. The primary vote figures, absurdly given to one decimal place, are 43.3 per cent for Kelly and 42.3 per cent for Nairn. A similar poll a month ago gave Kelly a two party lead of 56-44, with the primary vote gap at 48 per cent to 41 per cent. The sample for the latest poll was 411.

28 Comments

  1. 1
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Same as all the other polls.

  2. 2
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    Bit of a low sample. MOE?

  3. 3
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    About 5%

  4. 4
    blacklight
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    its Patterson..the mob that does westpoll..so small samples is the norm for them

  5. 5
    I C Moore
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    So thats a 6.3% swing, Newspoll ave NSW marg 6.5%, ave of newspoll/Galaxy/Morgan in NSW =7.2% (this sounds like the 1% Nairn’s personal vote/sitting member adv) ALP on target for 28 seats

  6. 6
    I C Moore
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Bill quite right, one decimal for percenatge of primary implies N=1000, order of magnitude

  7. 7
    Lose the election please
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Yes IC More… I think I’ve seen somewhere else that Eden-Monaro tends to swing a fair bit less than the State swing.

  8. 8
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    The Landslide approaches!!!!!

  9. 9
    I C Moore
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    True, it has long had smaller swings, always gets lots of attention as the so called Litmus seat, which would probably be a bit like living in a constant tight marginal- well its that too, also yielding lower swings

  10. 10
    I C Moore
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    NSW VIC QLD WA SA TAS NT
    Newspoll 6.5 8.5 8.5 8.0
    Galaxy 7.5 4.5 5.0 1.0 4.5
    Morgan 7.7 4.8 13.9 -3.1 6.6 9.9
    Ave 7.2 5.9 9.1 -0.7 6.4 3.3 Total
    ALP Gains 10 4 10 -1 4 2 1 30
    Parramatta (0.8) Deakin (5.0) Bonner (0.5) Swan (-0.08) Kingston (0.7) Braddon (1.1) Solomon (2.8)
    Lindsay (2.9) McMillan (5.0) Moreton (2.8) Makin (0.9) Bass (2.6)
    Eden-Monaro (3.3) Corangamite (5.7) Blair (5.7) Boothby (5.4)
    Page (5.5) La Trobe (5.8) Herbert (6.2)
    Paterson (6.3) Longman (6.7)
    Cowper (6.7) Petrie (7.5)
    Robertson (6.9) Flynn (7.7)
    Hinkler (8.3)
    Dickson (8.9)
    Bowman (8.9) 27
    Claimed in Doubt Wentworth (2.8) Wakefield (0.7) 4
    Bennelong (4.1)
    Dobell (4.8)
    In outer range McEwen (6.4) Dawson (10.0) Sturt (6.8) 11
    Gippsland (7.7) Leichhardt (10.3)
    Ryan (10.4)
    Fisher (11.0)
    Forde (11.5)
    Wide Bay (12.2)
    Fairfax (12.4)
    McPherson (13.9) Range 27-42 seats

  11. 11
    I C Moore
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    NSW VIC QLD WA SA TAS NT
    Newspoll 6.5 8.5 8.5 8.0
    Galaxy 7.5 4.5 5.0 1.0 4.5
    Morgan 7.7 4.8 13.9 -3.1 6.6 9.9
    Ave 7.2 5.9 9.1 -0.7 6.4 3.3 Total
    ALP Gains 10 4 10 -1 4 2 1 30
    Parramatta (0.8) Deakin (5.0) Bonner (0.5) Swan (-0.08) Kingston (0.7) Braddon (1.1) Solomon (2.8)
    Lindsay (2.9) McMillan (5.0) Moreton (2.8) Makin (0.9) Bass (2.6)
    Eden-Monaro (3.3) Corangamite (5.7) Blair (5.7) Boothby (5.4)
    Page (5.5) La Trobe (5.8) Herbert (6.2)
    Paterson (6.3) Longman (6.7)
    Cowper (6.7) Petrie (7.5)
    Robertson (6.9) Flynn (7.7)
    Hinkler (8.3)
    Dickson (8.9)
    Bowman (8.9) 27
    Claimed in Doubt Wentworth (2.8) Wakefield (0.7) 4
    Bennelong (4.1)
    Dobell (4.8)
    In outer range McEwen (6.4) Dawson (10.0) Sturt (6.8) 11
    Gippsland (7.7) Leichhardt (10.3)
    Ryan (10.4)
    Fisher (11.0)
    Forde (11.5)
    Wide Bay (12.2)
    Fairfax (12.4)
    McPherson (13.9) Range 27-42 seats Landslide enough!

  12. 12
    Oliver
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Wide Bay, Fairfax and Fisher?

    I grew up on the Sunshine Coast. The Ruddslide is on, but we’re not winning Wide Bay or Fairfax, surely. I’m from Noosa originally, formerly in Fairfax and now in Wide Bay – lots of young hospitality workers affected by WorkChoices, but it won’t be enough to sway the seat. Too many Liberal heartland suburbs and Wide Bay has Gympie in it, aka One Nation/National party heartland. Gympie is redneck country. (No offense to any non right wing lunatics who happen to live there, of course)

    It would make my night though to see the end of Somlyay and Truss. Possibly even more than seeing Howard and Turnbull lose their seats :)

  13. 13
    I C Moore
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    Yes dont worry only on Morgans crazy 13.9% swing prediction would these seats come accross- highly unlikely, still it would be good

  14. 14
    Mad Professor
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    IC M – nice analysis. Did you include all the mortgage-belt seats identified by the Taverner’s poll?

  15. 15
    Doug
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Sample of 411 comprises three separate sub-samples to represent the different sections of the electorate.
    ?
    what does this do to the MOE which is nowhere quoted?

  16. 16
    Cleobasset
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    William, could you show Patterson how to make their polls more accurate by changing their calculators to three decimal places?
    43.333%—much better.

  17. 17
    Bilko
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Rally round Mike Kelly folks, Nairn is tainted by the rorts and his Chief of staff is a liability.
    My spouce and I shall be travelling over 200k just to hand out how to vote cards in the Alps on the day, only 5 more sleeps. The last time I did this in Eden Monaro was when the silver budgie won, some kind of omen I hope

  18. 18
    Mr Q
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    I guess we could describe this as an Eastpoll, and continue to ignore anything Paterson has to say.

  19. 19
    James
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Somewhat of an overreaction in the Canberra Times here:

    http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/news/local/general/nairn-slashes-labors-lead-exclusive/1088571.html

  20. 20
    Bilko
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    This has to be the best cartoon of the election or even the year
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/opinion/cartoons/

  21. 21
    5 days to go til Whack a Rodent Day!
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    I have been working fulltime on the election trail in Eden Monaro, and the feeling on the ground is good. These numbers are good, and seem fairly accurate, however Nairn is still quite popular in some of the conservative (almost redneck) parts of the electorate.
    He has all but given up on Queanbeyan and Cooma, and appears to be focussing on Tumut etc (the new parts of teh electorate). In the redistribution he picked up Tumut and lifted his margin from 2.2% (at 2004 election) to 3.3%.
    The YRAW campaign in Tumut is strong though, and is getting some great feedback, but not necessarily against Nairn. Making the link between WorkChoices and Nairn has proved difficult.

    My thoughts from on the ground:
    Despite all this, I think Nairn will win Eden Monaro (albeit with a tiny margin) due to the fact that he capitalises on peoples lack of interest (his pitch is all about just getting on with the job and not worrying too much about the politics of it). As a result of this lack of interest from a lot (and certainly not everyone) of people in the electorate nobody is really swayed by the rorts stuff, however the Nazi blunder from his chief of Staff is STILL resonating here, and the YRAW Campaign is strong, so there may be a saving grace there.
    If Nairn does win EM though, I still tip that it will be a break of the bellweather tradition, and we will still see a Rudd Labor Govt.

  22. 22
    Mike Cusack
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Well done, Bilko and spouse. I shall be doing the HTV at Berridale for half a day, attempting to whittle down the Coalitions 60% plus there at the last election. A 5% gain there would be nice!

  23. 23
    Lose the election please
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Re 21

    If Labor does not win E-M I doubt they will win government. Just overheard a workmate discussing Kelly. She’s previously said it’s time for a change… but I heard her referring to Kelly as a slime and that she doesn’t like him. When prodded a little bit on it by other workmates she was adamant that she doesn’t like him. Well there’s one vote gone.

  24. 24
    ND
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    What is wrong with Mick Kelly? Was it the private school comments?

  25. 25
    The Doctor
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    LTEP,
    do you guys work in Defence – or is it just the publc persona that’s the problem?

  26. 26
    Lose the election please
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    No ND, it was just some photos she’d seen of him. A lot of voters base their decisions on very minor and trivial things. Welcome to the world of swinging voters.

  27. 27
    ND
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps she thought his moutache was a little porn starish….

    LTEP, it could be that this colleague of yours is actually a fairly solid Tory voter and that it was the ‘time for a change’ comment that was the exception rather than the rule. People like her are probably the difference between a 55% ALP 2PP and a 60% ALP 2PP.

    Another case in point, my Grandmother says she doesn’t like Rudd because he licks his lips too much and that she likes Kerry Bartlett because he ‘has a nice face’. The fact of the matter however is that she is a life long Tory and her ‘reasons’ are nothing more than lame justifications for doing something she would always do anyway. Just because in a moment of weakness once upon a time she suggested that John Howard should retire does not meen she will ever bring herself to help him on his way. And I wouldn’t expect her to. She did after all vote for Billy McMahon, Billy Snedden, Malcolm Fraser and Andrew Peacock, and no doubt would have voted for Dolly Downer if he had lasted long enough.

  28. 28
    David
    Posted Monday, November 19, 2007 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    I would expect Labor to win this seat, although this poll is basically useless given the sample size.