The Sydney Morning Herald reports that Galaxy has conducted a poll for SBS’s Insight program showing Labor leading 52-48 across a sample of marginal electorates: Dobell, Eden-Monaro, Blair, Moreton, Deakin, Stirling and Wakefield. The average margin in these seats is 3.5 per cent, so this suggests a combined swing of 5.5 per cent.
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Will not affect the running of the election on Saturday. They are allegations at the moment that will need to be tested.
I thought this pic in Crikey today was funny:
http://possumcomitatus.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/stifflersmum.jpg
Cheeky buggers that manipulated that
For Downer, I think a posting on some remote French-speaking island out in the Pacific would be most appropriate.
Andrew Southcott gets my vote for the most fraudulent claim of the campaign:
“But Dr Southcott hails the $1 billion expansion of an arterial road that runs through the city as the greatest achievement of his time in Canberra.”
The liberals have done bugger all for South Road. Most of the impetus from this project has come from the state government. In fact the Rann government has already started work on part of this with exactly 0.00000 dollars from the feds.
Reeks of sore loser syndrome, actually.
What a pathetic bunch of born-to-rule losers.
cant win it on a popular vote – so we’ll try to steal it through lawyers.
typical of their scumbag republican cousins.
Honestly, these people are dirt. Time to clean up, Australia.
[now this is desperate. 13 labor candidates ineligble - Liberals.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22790990-12377,00.html
Well they’ve tried everything else. It seems their new campaign theme is “Go For Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.”
liberals have alleged the following candidates are ineligible:
George Newhouse (Wentworth, NSW), Tony Zappia (Makin, SA), Yvette D’ath (Petrie, Qld), Peter Conway (ACT senate), Shayne Neumann (Blair, Qld), Garry Parr (Hinkler, Qld), Alan Neilan (Kennedy, Qld), Rob Mitchell (McEwen, Vic), Sharon Thiel (Kalgoorlie, WA), Belinda Neil (Robertson, NSW), Mark Buttugieg (Cook, NSW), Ross Daniels (Ryan, Qld), Mark Reynolds (Tangney, WA)
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22790836-661,00.html
seriously hope there’s nothing to this…
I typed in:
“stinking poxy bastard liar turd “john howard”"
and got only 4 hits, tells you how much the internet knows.
601 GG
Got to disagree with you there, IMHO this will actually play very badly for the Tories. They are essentially saying to the pubic ‘if you vote against us we’ll challenge it in court’. I don’t know anyone who’d be happy with that.
If they would have him, Daniel B. In fact – he’d probably starve, I doubt his rudimentary French would extend to asking for food.
The ‘13 candidates’ line reeks of desperation – reminds me a little of the fake leaked letter in the last week of the 96 campaign that made Ralph Willis look like such a goose.
The Tony Zappia allegation isn’t new. He is still Mayor of the city of Salisbury, and receives a mayoral allowance, but this allowance is not an “office of profit” under the crown, and thus does not affect his candidacy. So you can reduce the list to 12 straight away.
Damn – and I was really holding high hopes of the ALP winning in Kennedy too
608 Kina
However you do get 92,300 hits for John Howard liar scum
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That’s exactly the line Rudd should take.
NB,
How it plays out in the future is irrelevant. My point is that it will not prevent the candidates contesting the election on Saturday.
“The Libs are getting really desperate, and this seems to be their last minute Tampa”
Without even knowing the facts, I am willing to make a big bet that these 13 candidates are fully eligible, despite the Liberals saying otherwise. The fact that it comes out today, just when the talk about the secret WorkChoices Mark II files is gaining traction, is completely typical of the Liberals.
So is Howard planning to contest the election of several Labor members after election day? Is he going to try to win this election through the legal system? Is this his latest trick? *sigh*
It would NOT surprise me one bit. The Liberal Party is a filthy blot on Australia’s political landscape. They will try to do ANYTHING to win.
Sounds rather like a bit of wishful thinking on their part.
The same kind of lie that makes a union member into a union official/boss.
As long as Rudd comes out and strongly says there is no merit in these allegations and they are a disgusting and dirty trick coming from a desperate Liberal Party they should be fine.
Wouldn’t that mean all sitting MPs are ineligible, if they’re including Zappa?
thats 89 Tories out, and 59 ALP.
All hail the Greens.
Lefty E,
Don’t forget the Senate.
From Caroline Overingtons blog. crazy desperate tory poll rationalisations
This poor guy’s clinging onto this like a drowning man clinging on to a plank of wood..
So Lefty E: do you live in Sydney? As a matter of curiousity,what is yourbackground?
The McNair poll shows Labor 50-50 in North Sydney and the Adelaide Advertiser showing massive swings to Labor in Adelaide and Hindmarsh both inner city electorates. Ryan, Higgins, North Sydney and Kooyong, along with Wentworth and Bennelong are under risk of falling to Labor. The only candidates after saturday for the Liberal leadership could be Brendan Nelson or Tony Abbott.
Just for fun I typed ‘”Kevin Rudd” liar scum’ into google and got 164 hits. When I checked out a few of the relevant hits it was John Howard that the terms liar and scum referred to.
615 GG
Sorry GG, crossed lines. What I meant was that I think it may well effect the result, but by increasing the Labor vote. I agree it wont effect the running of the election (whoops missed that one little word and look where it got us).
This new story about the 13 candidates – this was potentially a very stupid thing to do (outside of the obvious). All these candidates need to do is show some remote evidence of them being elligible – they are vindicated and the Liberal party looks even stupider than they currently do.
Wonder if that evidence is available though.
hehehe own goal from Ruddy if this is true, good ammo for Howie tonight on 7:30 report.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22790990-12377,00.html
This is a real concern. If our candidates can’t get the basics right, how can we expect them to govern the country?
I hope the press pick this up and run with it like all hell.
That’s a very big if Glen, we’ve already discounted one of them. You have to admit this looks desperate.
fair dinkum, I wouldn’t piss on on Liberal party hack if they were on fire. This sort of gutter tripe is to be expected.
Stand up and fight like men and women, you snivelling cowards!
Put the lawyers away. This ain’t some tinpot regime like Zimbabwe or Florida you know.
Glen, you’ll find it’s all BS spin that morphs into an own goal by 6pm.
I guarantee that.
This would be a very foolish thing for Howard to try – it can only back-fire. The allegations can only be tested after the election, not before, so nothing is going to be known.
So all that it does is give Rudd the opportunity to come out a say Howard is desperate and the Liberal party has gone so far as to try and abuse democracy.
William, any chance of instituting a desperation metre for the last few days?
Somewhere in universe of parallel threads I posted a comment on the ‘Office of Profit’ angle. This is a provision to ensure that Politics and Government is not unduly influenced, it is now out-dated. After all do we really know all of the consulting jobs that the current members of parliament get up to. Plenty of them are members of other societies – H.R Nicolls for one, and these associations are never officially questioned. The official campaign launch is well after the election writs so that the Government can blow as much public funding on its campaign as it can. In fact, the Government is still conducting business such as the Mersey Hospital buy-out – surely this is a conflict of interest during an election campaign. What’s more they also are employees of the Crown!
Anyway, no point complaining. Although from here I expect the election will need to proceed, and any successful challenges will result in a by-election. Not a good idea really, and quite silly when you think about it.
I think the inelligibility thing is a big plus for Rudd. There’s no look quite as bad as sour grapes in the australian electorate
The fact you have doubt this is true demonstrates how far behind the coalition realise they are.
This is all about FEAR, UNCERTAINTY and DOUBT.
They have completely given up arguing about policy.
There isn’t much they could do that is lower than this.
Ltep, not even an if. They are now losing it, throwing everything overboard. This is just Liberal madness. It will play into the sneaky and tricky theme, weaken Howard, and give publicity to any or all of the 13 that want it. Trickyness and smears have backfired badly all year.
Tristan – do you have a source for that?
I’ve been trying to tell you guys that North Sydney was close!!!!!
If Andrew Robb says it’s true then you can assure yourself, it is a lie.
For one, it fairly clear that Newhouse was being deliberately tricky in not dating the resignation letter, or was just plain dumb not to do so. What a snivelling little fool. Let’s see where the evidence leads us on the other 12.
lefty e
to quote from the republician book of dirty tricks-ossy version
‘a multiple swift-boat style smear in the last week to shore up the barricades”
unfortunately they forgot to check if there was any truth in their smear attempt
ps brian burke provided the names
This is gonna back fire badly. It looks petty and arrogant. Australians on the whole don’t like having nitpicking meaningless rules imposed by lawyers and party hacks. Ie if we can’t win fairly we’ll just disqualify you. A desperate move, which they’ve probably had in their back pocket for a while, but undoubtedly another tactical screw up.
Heads out of the sand guys, this is seriously damaging for the ALP.
Regardless of the legal resolution it’ll get spun in the short term as “if they can’t get the basics right how can they govern BLAH BLAH”.
Bugger.
Red Wombat you are a legend. Poor old GP the next 10+ years are going to be very grim indeed.
Exactly. Everyone assumes on election day there will be a candidate who is a Liberal or a National, a candidate who is Labor, and a bunch of other minors.
They couldn’t care less about all this business about did they or did they not resign etc.
People will see it as the government running on a scare instead of talking about policy.
Sean if it is true then it shows Labor is unfit to govern, if they can’t manage to follow procedures and follow the rules, why risk inexperience?
If it is true it could make up the 2-3% the tories need.
It would not be considered desperate if it was found to be true.
Almost as bad as the Tories Victorian shadow treasurer who wasn’t even enrolled in his own seat and we got pasted in the 2002 election.
This could hurt.
Jim, the whole Newhouse thing is a beat-up. You really think a lawyer is not going to understand the ins and outs of the eligibility process? It’s something you learn in first year law.
This is the desperate last trembling from a dying government. Anyone who bothers to listen to Howard can hear the drained, hoarse, exhausted tones of a man who’s power is fading with every passing minute. Saturday can’t come quick enough.
Adams site says that Shayne Neumann (Labor) is a partner in an Ipswich law firm, specialising in family law. Nothing about being employed by the commonwealth???
Why vote for a coalition who doesn’t want to talk about policies?
It could make 2 – 3% vote against the Coalition for being petty morons who refuse to debate policies.
The coalition.
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