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ACNielsen: 57-43

Not sure where he heard this, but the more than reliable Possum Comitatus hears tomorrow’s ACNielsen will show 55-45.

UPDATE: Now the Channel Seven News tells us it’s 57-43. Either ACNielsen or Galaxy are going to look at bit silly come Sunday.

TWO-PARTY PRIMARY
ALP LNP ALP LNP
Nov 23
57 43 ? ?
Nov 16
54 46 47 43
Nov 2
55 45 48 41
Oct 19
54 46 48 42
Oct 6
56 44 47 40
Sep 8
57 43 49 39
Aug 11
55 45 46 41
Jul 14
58 42 49 39
Jun 16
57 43 48 39
May 19
58 42 48 39
April 21
58 42 50 37

1,408 Comments

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  1. 1201
    Dangerous
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Just realised I was asked a question.
    Laurie Oakes made his prediction on Nightline tonight – ALP to pick up 20 seats.

  2. 1202
    Grog
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    see ya tomorrow pollbludgers

  3. 1203
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Thanks Dangerous

  4. 1204
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    I do not think Rudd will get the biggest swing. All the folks on this blog who live here like me know that Griffith is now becoming a very swish sort of place at least where I live.
    Rudd used to really work the area.
    He did it well.
    Now parts of it are becoming very inner city.
    Indeed when I look down on the snobs of bulimba I shake my head in a haughty way.

  5. 1205
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    you know what sums this election up for me? on the citycat to work on wed my mate says to me, “i dont see much difference between them. Except for decency of course”. and i think that one word sums it up. Rudd used it a number of times during his fireside chat with Red Kez.

  6. 1206
    Greeensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Glen,

    You asked where they went. How they got there, well it says everything about a party designed to never make a decision, making a decison.

  7. 1207
    Ding Bat
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    VIC: 52-48 ? That seems too low. Does anyone want to by some bets?

  8. 1208
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Hey J KIn i’m one of those new types in Bulimba! we ain’t all bad!! dont let silly stereotypes cloud your judgement.

  9. 1209
    Lefty E
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Yes, the senate majority goes if Greens win ACT seat – but LNP then still has 38. Which is a blocking vote till July.

  10. 1210
    BenC
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Not sure if its been mentioned yet, but Petrie has gone across to Labor on Centrebet and Portlandbet at 1.80/1.90. Thats 82 seats where ALP is in front on Portlandbet.

  11. 1211
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    So Laurie thinks ALP will end with 80? Meaning 80-68-2. That’ll do fine, although 89 would be better.

  12. 1212
    cityblue
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/its-time-say-voters-as-poll-tips-big-win-to-rudd-and-labor/2007/11/22/1195321951483.html

  13. 1213
    Dyno
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    GG @ 1206,
    One day they were going to have to take a stand on something, I guess.
    I still think Kernot’s got a lot to answer for, though. Right up there with Billy Hughes, surely?
    Also, although the Dems served a purpose, it should never be forgotten that they were founded purely because Chipp got p*ssed off about being overlooked for the Fraser ministry.
    All our other political parties were founded for some greater purpose than that (except perhaps One Nation).

  14. 1214
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Gotta go. 2 more sleeps. Thanks again William!

  15. 1215
    Greeensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    cityblue @ 1212,

    Great shot of Howard and his duck!

  16. 1216
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    Bulimba has changed from working class 20 years ago to elite yuppie these days…nice area thou!

  17. 1217
    Steven Kaye
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    The Adelaide Advertiser and the Fin Review are backing the Government.

  18. 1218
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Nielson also did another ONLINE POLL at the same time with a different sample and the result was 57/43 also

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/its-time-say-voters-as-poll-tips-big-win-to-rudd-and-labor/2007/11/22/1195321951483.html

    this link INCLUDES THE PRIMARYS and some vagueries about the states

  19. 1219
    Burgey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    I can’t keep doing this to all hours.

    Night all. Roll on the Ruddslide.

  20. 1220
    Lefty E
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    ACN also has LNP ahead in WA, which means the eastern states must be swinging big time.

    Also says Vic swing is big – so there’s one major dissonance with Newspoll (and probably galaxy)

  21. 1221
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Where’s your stamina bludgers? Off to bed at midnight?

  22. 1222
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    1205 middle man

    Too true. Decent. Shone through.

    Beats the old ‘relaxed and comfortable’ canard.

  23. 1223
    Burgey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    PS: Neilsen 2071 – pretty big sample isn’t it?

  24. 1224
    Helen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    BenC 1210

    A Labor friend who lives in Petrie was thrilled (NOT) to find a begging message from JH on his answering machine today, which prompted me to say that Petrie must be in danger, from the Coalition point of view. Sounds like my uninformed guess was right!

  25. 1225
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    This partic post is reaching critical mass.

  26. 1226
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    BTW – ACN sample 2081 (MoE ~ 2.1%), ALP primary 48%, Lib 40%. Very very encouraging!

  27. 1227
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    AG01. just because i can afford to live in a certain suburb doesn’t automatically make me an elite yuppie.

  28. 1228
    blacklight
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    only 10:00pm here :P

  29. 1229
    Winston
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    Hey guys. How can you sleep now? Savour the moment.

  30. 1230
    Burgey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    ESJ – work to do tomorrow, cases to settle so they don’t run next week when I’ll be hung over.

  31. 1231
    Karl
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    Ben Cubby (SMH) told Tony Delroy (ABC Local Radio) that the Government ‘faces annihilation’ at the election on the weekend.
    A Herald/AC Nielsen poll has Labor leading on a primary vote of 48 to 40, and a 2pp of 57 to 43.

    If preferences are allocated based on the distribution at the 2004 Federal Election, then the 2pp would be 56 to 44.

    I don’t know how the first 2pp figure was derived.

  32. 1232
    kina
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Howard rang Darwin too… me.

  33. 1233
    Greeensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Dyno,

    Kernot wanted to be in a party that made decisions and were accountable. Eventually, she could not bear the indecision that is the charm and charisma of the Democrats.

    At least when she left she resigned from the Parliament to allow another Democrat to take over. The comparison with Hughes is unfair.

  34. 1234
    marty
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Mmm, screw sleep. This is going to be special. I first voted in 1980 and I’ve never been this excited before. Hell, I’m not even this excited at Christmas. Whoo!

  35. 1235
    Sacha
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    We can only wait and see the result.

  36. 1236
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Sorry MM… just a generalisation, No offense —DOH

    1000 pardons.

  37. 1237
    Rusted on
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Paul Keating — love him or loathe him, he cuts to the quick:
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/11/21/1195321864420.html

  38. 1238
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    1216
    Aussieguru01 Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 12:07 am
    Bulimba has changed from working class 20 years ago to elite yuppie these days…nice area thou

    and middleman
    admit it u are like the rudds and took advantage of it.(though the rudds would/do not care )
    Only I am unaware of what was going on.

  39. 1239
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    Herald Sun
    Fin Review
    Adelaide Advertiser
    The West Australian

    vs

    Sydney Morning Herald
    Daily Telegraph
    Courier Mail
    The Australian

  40. 1240
    blacklight
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    apprently in bennelong there is a ‘howard place’ and a ‘rudd street’

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/quiet-streets-where-a-growing-rumble-signals-coming-change/2007/11/22/1195321951567.html

    hehehehe

  41. 1241
    Sacha
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    Although, any primary votes of high 40s for one party as opposed to low 40s for the other would lead one to think that the first was going to win.

  42. 1242
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    To be truthful I wouldn’t mind living in Bulimba too!

  43. 1243
    Dyno
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    GG @ 1233,
    Afraid I don’t have the energy to mount a prolonged argument, but it seems odd that someone can go all the way to become leader of a party before they discover that it’s not worth belonging to.
    It’s bad form to do what she did, however you look at it.

  44. 1244
    wysiwyg
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Ron Brown @ 1194 – if you’re playing with the numbers, then check this: an evenly spread 56-44 2PP in Qld, by itself gives a majority to Labor. That’s the sort of territory we’re talking about.

  45. 1245
    paul k
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    I think the biggest negative about Rudd winning will be having to put up with Keating lecturing us on how he didn’t really lose the 1996 election and acting like Labor under Rudd needs him.

  46. 1246
    CaptainJackSparrow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    AC Nielsen is the one that I feel reflects the true state of things.

    It’ll be 57-43 on the night, just you wait and see.

  47. 1247
    AM
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Are these figures correct Galaxy poll shows Labor with a primary vote of 52 per cent and the Coalition with 48 per cent?

    Poll shows Coalition closing on Labor:

    THE Coalition’s election hopes have been bolstered by a poll putting it closer to Labor than any time during the election campaign.

    The Galaxy poll, published tomorrow in News Ltd publications, reportedly has Labor with a primary vote of 52 per cent and the Coalition with 48 per cent.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22802562-601,00.html

  48. 1248
    Winston
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    Glen 1239

    Yes – strange bedfellows

  49. 1249
    Still worried
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    Listen folks,

    Howard can still win. Keep in mind, Rudd still has to win 16 seats (and lose nothing) and sometimes the math looks real scary. Right now the polls say that the ALP lead Libs by a 4 point margin, 52% – 48%.

    Howard only needs 48.5% to hold power.

    All he has to do is NOT lose. Not losing is easier than winning.

    Lets keep the champagne on ice until the fat lady has sung…OK?

  50. 1250
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    None taken Aussieguru. I’m the classic 70’s kid from a working class family who was given an opportunity via free university to get ahead. so i took it and i did. but you never forget your roots. I’ve long struggled with the desire to join and run, but i’m not sure my ‘colourful’ past would quite cut in this day and age.

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