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ACNielsen: 57-43

Not sure where he heard this, but the more than reliable Possum Comitatus hears tomorrow’s ACNielsen will show 55-45.

UPDATE: Now the Channel Seven News tells us it’s 57-43. Either ACNielsen or Galaxy are going to look at bit silly come Sunday.

TWO-PARTY PRIMARY
ALP LNP ALP LNP
Nov 23
57 43 ? ?
Nov 16
54 46 47 43
Nov 2
55 45 48 41
Oct 19
54 46 48 42
Oct 6
56 44 47 40
Sep 8
57 43 49 39
Aug 11
55 45 46 41
Jul 14
58 42 49 39
Jun 16
57 43 48 39
May 19
58 42 48 39
April 21
58 42 50 37

1,408 Comments

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  1. 1251
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    From todays Australian editorial

    “The latest polling, both Galaxy and Newspoll (which was still polling last night), shows the Coalition is coming home strongly and the contest is likely to be tight”

    Does this mean they have already got preliminary results from the Newspoll?

  2. 1252
    Dyno
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    AM @ 1247,
    TPP I’m pretty sure, not primaries.

  3. 1253
    blacklight
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    the smh article on the poll has more ducks

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/last-figures-show-howard-needs-a-miracle/2007/11/22/1195321949364.html

  4. 1254
    blacklight
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    ‘But sources from both main parties believed that the Herald poll more accurately reflected what their internal polling had found.’

    game set and match

  5. 1255
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    K Jin. i wish i got in early! i’ve only been here 2 years. grew up in mudgeeraba on the gold coast… then went via london, sydney back to bris.

  6. 1256
    Historic Election
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    coalition blown to 4.60 on centrebet

  7. 1257
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    Senate.

    Numerous calling tonight to ask me why they should vote Green rather than Nick X.

    Given, I had already put the idea into their heads.

    Explained. That Nick, whatever, will get in. That Nick has Family First in his preferences. That Nick is ambiguous, Work Choices.

    That Australia could do with Greens. Upper House. No stuffing about with Work Choices. Climate Change et al.

    That one will temper the other.

    Decision, House of Reps, Boothby, Nicole? Despite?

    Definitely, notwithstanding.

  8. 1258
    Marrickville Mauler
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    ESJ – sorry for missing the irony in your free speech on my PB post last evening and sorry too William for unthinkingly straying into the essential tech discussion zone, due to my not keeping up with the rapid fire accumulation of posts. My own post yesterday intended only to give voice to “our” appreciation of the effort and expertise which William has applied to create and sustain this wonderful forum.

  9. 1259
    Lefty E
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Just to expand Blacklight’s quote

    “A Galaxy Poll to be printed in News Ltd newspapers today shows the election to be a tight contest, with the two main parties tied on 42.5 per cent of the primary vote and Labor leading by 52 per cent to 48 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

    But sources from both main parties believed that the Herald poll more accurately reflected what their internal polling had found.”

  10. 1260
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/last-figures-show-howard-needs-a-miracle/2007/11/22/1195321949364.html?page=2

    A Galaxy Poll to be printed in News Ltd newspapers today shows the election to be a tight contest, with the two main parties tied on 42.5 per cent of the primary vote and Labor leading by 52 per cent to 48 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

    But sources from both main parties believed that the Herald poll more accurately reflected what their internal polling had found.

  11. 1261
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Lefty e great minds think alike :-)

  12. 1262
    Ron Brown
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    TO WILLIAM

    on ‘www.aec.gov the following are shown as 2004 election LABOR results on 2 PP:

    NSW 48.07
    Q’LD 49.00
    VIC 42.91
    SA 45.64
    WA 44.60
    TAS 54.19
    TOTAL 47.26

    I thought Labor got 46.3 2PP in 2004
    Are the above STATE 2 PP figures what you guys have ???????????

    thanks

  13. 1263
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Middle man 2 years ago is now early. Yes Not at the start but that was way before most folks. I am sure u are doing very well after 2 years. Now would be the time to double up. Ride the Rudd boom !

  14. 1264
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Kjin and Aussieguru,I was raised in Cannon Hill,mother and sister still live there.I went school at St Oliver Plunkett(was Blessed when I was a kid)My wife and I bought into Hawthorne(where my parents were born and raised),sold up in ‘94 and we live at Mansfield now.It’s a small world.BTW I’m still a member of the Cannon/Morningside Branch and have been so for over 30years

  15. 1265
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Howard’s last pitch press conference with Costello tomorrow.

    “Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whoever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya. (Costello whispers to him) And by that, I mean, it’s not time for change.”

  16. 1266
    Greeensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Dyno,

    Happy to debate this at another time.

    However, the reason people of all persuasions go in to politics is to affect outcomes. Kernot clearly decided that being a Democrat did not fulfill her personal desire to be a “player”.

    She at least had the honesty to get out when she felt she could not do the job of a Democrat leader.

  17. 1267
    Lefty E
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Indeed, J of M!

    But arent you disturbed by it?

  18. 1268
    AM
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    latest Herald/Nielsen poll shows.

    The poll sampled 2071 voters between Monday and Wednesday and its findings are supported by a separate Herald/Nielsen online poll, which sampled 1421 voters over the same period.

    Labor leads the primary vote by 48 per cent to 40 per cent, giving it a two-party-preferred lead of 57 per cent to 43 per cent.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/last-figures-show-howard-needs-a-miracle/2007/11/22/1195321949364.html

  19. 1269
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    I think if Howard is still in power and prices tank. There will be remedies. That is the way the world works.

  20. 1270
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Bob from Bonner. what is the closet branch for Bulimba? is it the morningside branch?

  21. 1271
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    We are home and hosed,as I’ve said many times on this Forum,over the past couple of weeks,the swing in Qld is massive and growing.I still suspect the swing in Sydney will also be huge and the regions a little less so.

  22. 1272
    Pi
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Grattan points out that there are two ACNeilson polls at the same time, one being Online, and both have returned the same value…

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/its-time-say-voters/2007/11/22/1195321951483.html

    A Nielsen Online poll taken at the same time, but with an entirely different sample, is also showing a 57 to 43% Labor lead, with Mr Rudd ahead 52 to 39% as preferred PM.

  23. 1273
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Lefty E there is a little bit of left and right in all of us :-)

    Glen great quote

  24. 1274
    Grover
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    I am also from Rudd’s electorate and remember some of the great local campaigns he ran – especially in 2001 his ‘Keep Kevin in Canberra’ posters were seemingly everywhere. Also I doubt that due to the wanna-be affluence of the inner-south of Brisbane seemingly discovering that Bulimba has some nice places to eat and the best cinema in the city really means that the seat is in danger. I think there might be a small swing away from Rudd as I remember hearing during the election last year that Rudd was the only sitting ALP member who had a positive swing. The Liberal candidate here has run a fairly unimpressive campaign (but who could blame him for not having all his heart in it) and even the PM couldn’t remember his name.

  25. 1275
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    Bob from Bonner
    I remember when I was a kid, Oliver Plunket was something that was far off, off to the side (as u no very close to cannon Hill) something very outside my experience. Although by grade 4 I played on the weekend tennis on there courts.

  26. 1276
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    Middle man @ 1270
    There’s no Morningside Branch,it was folded into Cannon Hill decades ago.But I think there is still a Bulimba Branch.Talk to the local Councillor Shayne Sutton,she’ll steer you right.

  27. 1277
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    Grover i’m surprised by that. I reckon the locals will be glad to make sure their boy gets the top job.

  28. 1278
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    Thanks Bob. I think its time i look in to it.

  29. 1279
    Grover
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Geez, we’ll need to call this Griffith Bludger soon.

  30. 1280
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    i was just thinking the same thing!

  31. 1281
    Lefty E
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    True J of M.

    Im now trying to think of a RW bit of me to back that up. Hmmm.

    Will get back to you. :)

  32. 1282
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Homer: Union rule 26. “Every employee must win ‘Worker of the Week’ at least once, regardless of gross incompetence, obesity, or rank odor.” Heh heh heh heh

  33. 1283
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    There’s something wrong with that Galaxy poll!

  34. 1284
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Very small world B from B. MM I’m a 70’s kid too. Work as a safety officer these days but started off as a Builders laborer. Now days its Kids , Family, work & so on.
    I love Coorparoo & its great to near &close to everything. An apple does not fall far from its tree!

  35. 1285
    Grover
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Glen – I think you should throw your support behind the Inanimate Carbon Rod, it would run a better campaign for your team.

  36. 1286
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Oliver Plunkett was snobvillie from my view when I was a kid. Yet now it just fits in a small block around in part of molley road.

  37. 1287
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    K jin you’re a young’in then???
    I’m 53,been around this part of the southside as long as I can remember and involved with the Party since I was 8(My old man was the Branch President during the split,he saved the Cannon Hill Branch.He had great stories about the Party and some of its colourful characters).

  38. 1288
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Why Gary? the poll polled 4000 people in marginal electorates.

  39. 1289
    Greeensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Glen @ 1265,

    Cue The Impossible Dream.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YikMhfKmBrY

  40. 1290
    blacklight
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    galaxy poll 1201 sample, no timeframe given

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22806358-5013650,00.html

    acn 2701 sample, mon-weds

  41. 1291
    Simon
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    I wonder what the sample size from Galaxy was. 2000 for the Neilsen, and 1400 from the Neilsen Online, both saying 57 is pretty hard to argue with.

  42. 1292
    blacklight
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    1200

    oops

  43. 1293
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    Glen, Quimny has the best motto on his seal. Coruptus In Extremis

  44. 1294
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    i spent 10 years as a dishpig and ended up in investments. go figure…

  45. 1295
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    Speers Sky News: The ALP has apparently been taken over – “conquered” if you will – by a master race of Union bosses. It’s difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain. There is no stopping them; the ALP will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new Union overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground geothermal caves.

  46. 1296
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Vote for Howard if you were running for PM he’d vote for you!

  47. 1297
    Historic Election
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    The Libs have had there final days of the campaign grossely affected by this lindsay incident which isnt going to go away tommorow. It is most likely going to shore up soft votes, sway some undecided people and even mite be a last minite vote changer. None of the polls will factor that in

  48. 1298
    Grover
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Not to mention Quimby’s brilliant election tag-line “Vote Quimby – If you were running for Mayor, he’d vote for you”

    thankyou for bringing up the sample sizes – I was wondering about them.

  49. 1299
    Lose the election please
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    ha Glen. That reminds me of Kent Brockman.

  50. 1300
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Bob from Bonner we may have colourful folks from some parts in our past But all of a sudden we have really hit the big time.

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