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ACNielsen: 57-43

Not sure where he heard this, but the more than reliable Possum Comitatus hears tomorrow’s ACNielsen will show 55-45.

UPDATE: Now the Channel Seven News tells us it’s 57-43. Either ACNielsen or Galaxy are going to look at bit silly come Sunday.

TWO-PARTY PRIMARY
ALP LNP ALP LNP
Nov 23
57 43 ? ?
Nov 16
54 46 47 43
Nov 2
55 45 48 41
Oct 19
54 46 48 42
Oct 6
56 44 47 40
Sep 8
57 43 49 39
Aug 11
55 45 46 41
Jul 14
58 42 49 39
Jun 16
57 43 48 39
May 19
58 42 48 39
April 21
58 42 50 37

1,408 Comments

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  1. 1301
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    Aussieguru,I’m with the BCC been 33 long years.Like you it was family reasons that brought us to Mansfield.Been in Griffith,Bowman and now Bonner.Seen some ups and downs in my time in this neckof the woods.But suffice to say Mansfield is solidly Labor these days.The Christian Tory tag is long gone.

  2. 1302
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Kerry Obrien (when Howard scrapes home): Well, this reporter was … possibly a little hasty earlier and would like to reaffirm his allegiance to John Howard and the Liberal Party. It may not be perfect, but it’s the best government we have. For now.

  3. 1303
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Plagiarism of the Simpsons… DOH

  4. 1304
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    John, wrong poll. See 1290.

  5. 1305
    Marko
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    OK, so does anyone want to tell me if it’s psephologically relevant that _both_ ACN polls came up with the same figure? Does that increase confidence in the 57/43 result? Versus Galaxy?

  6. 1306
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Sorry Gary

  7. 1307
    Ron Brown
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    The ‘oz’ used the word primary instead of 2PP
    Galaxy 2 PP is Labor 52 to 48

    hope ACN is at least mostly right and hope Galaxy is 100% wrong

  8. 1308
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    HAHAHAHAHHA I’ve Never Lied: Howard

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22806536-952,00.html

    Oh I get it, they were NON-CORE lies!

  9. 1309
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    K jin You are so right.But it’s been coming for nearly 12 months now,since Kevin took over.I know Rudd and none of this surprises me.His capacity for work is phenomenal.We are going to maybe win bigger than Curtain.But certainly bigger than Hawke.Think of it an elected Queensland PM.We’re all part of history!!

  10. 1310
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    I know Bob. I remember that Bill Klause use to be your state member in the 80’s then he jumped from the Libs to the Nats. Now Mansfield is Labor territory. Same with Greenslopes..remember that Leisha Harvey. Times have changes & all the southside is RED!

  11. 1311
    davidoff
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    1,309 posts – this is getting crazy!

  12. 1312
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    Bob from Bonner. talk about ups and downs and Christian tories.. i got the EB across the road from me.

  13. 1313
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    1,309 posts - this is getting crazy!

    Imagine what Saturday & Sunday are going to be like!?

  14. 1314
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Are you going to be at Suncorp on Saturday nite Bob?

  15. 1315
    Darn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    In MOE terms how much more reliable is a sample of 2000 as against a sample of 1200. Anybody know?

  16. 1316
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    MM ROFL !!!!!!

  17. 1317
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    So very interesting.

    My tiny immediate experience, over the last few days, tells me that the so called ’soft’ voters, decided, quite some time ago, which side of the fence they are on.

    Who may have deceived the pollsters, with their less than piercing questions.

    It was already easy, for me, to work out among those I know, who intended voting Coalition. Irrespective.

    And who was not going Coalition. If not Labor, first up, but preferentially.

    It comes down to, for whom exactly, the non Coalition, in their interests, as perceived across the spectrum, they intend to vote.

    Summation.

    Labor. Greens. Nick. Dem (one). Not necessarily in that order.

  18. 1318
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    geez i’m just a recent blow in to griffith compared to you longtimers!

  19. 1319
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    EEEgaadds I know where you live MM LOL

  20. 1320
    davidoff
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    #1313 Yep – thinking about that too – but there are some technical solutions – first off – restricting posts to a known collection (the usual suspects) – and secondly pushing chat style stuff onto IRC – both actions should help keep things under control

  21. 1321
    otiose
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    “#
    1295
    Glen Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 12:35 am

    Speers Sky News: The ALP has apparently been taken over – “conquered” if you will – by a master race of Union bosses. It’s difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain. There is no stopping them; the ALP will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new Union overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground geothermal caves.

    glen, my son is at work – he started at 5pm – he finishes …. well i dunno – soon? he is 25 and CANNOT settle into any sort of social life (or leave home for that matter) ;) glen he’s at uni and just needs a break, cos he’s still gonna have a HUGE HECS debt whilst MOST of the ministers in the current rancid govt had FREE education (courtesy of EGW)

    geln i would REALLY like to slag u off – but ur NOT worth the bandwidth

  22. 1322
    Marko
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    1317 – Crikey Whitey

    Yep. Them voters weren’t undecided. They were just being coy.

    G’nite!

  23. 1323
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    aussieguru01. not too fast. they have two properties in Bulimba. they must be worth a mint. but if you’re thinking of the fortress that is apparently a church then you’re right.

  24. 1324
    paritybit
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    Glen@1265… haha i just lost my shit when i read that. My fave episode of the simpsons.

  25. 1325
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    Kjin are u still with us?

  26. 1326
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    No,Believe it or not,I have my sons cricket Saturday morning,booth work for a couple of hours in the arvo and then a joint birthday party BBQ cum election party at my place.I’m under pressure “from she who must be obeyed” to have all birthday stuff out of the way by 5pm!!!

  27. 1327
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    I think a lot of people should remember, think about what they thought about Rudd 12 months ago. Win or Lose He has shaken everything up. No Pm will be elected with out a base from the QQQQLd’/Nsw axis

  28. 1328
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    Glen do you have the Simpsons on cd?

    I hope ACN is an outlier

  29. 1329
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    MM Did you leaflet them LOL!!!!!

  30. 1330
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    You’ll make a fortune selling head scarves as a bit on the side as well as white shirts. :-)

  31. 1331
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    It will be interesting to see what the polls do tomorrow and how the media reports the two polls. Fingers crossed Newspoll is similar to Galaxy.

  32. 1332
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    Glen do you have the Simpsons on cd?

    I hope ACN is an outlier

    ACN is the LOW outlier.

  33. 1333
    TheEndisNeigh
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    “Last figures show Howard needs a miracle”

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/last-figures-show-howard-needs-a-miracle/2007/11/22/1195321949364.html

  34. 1334
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Bob from Bonner. Too funny!!!!!!! even though i’m only a newlywed i’m quickly cathing on to the management style deployed. Happy Birthday too! I’m a nov birth too. 8th.

  35. 1335
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    MM,I know where you are too!!

  36. 1336
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Glen at 1295.

    ‘I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality’

    Curb this fantasy, Glen, dear.

    You Tube does not rank.

    Calm, calm.

  37. 1337
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    The place seriously has barbed wire on the fences. i thought at first it must have been connected to the naval barracks… but no. it was a church!

  38. 1338
    Let It End
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    ACNielson ALP primaries on both their phone and online poll are consistent with the 47% ALP average all polls have shown all year. On the other hand Galaxy shows ALP primary has collapsed to 42.5%.

    Based on the campaign one couldn’t expect the ALP primary to have collapsed as the Libs have been woeful over the last 6 weeks suffering one disaster after the other. Nothing in the campaign, media or electorate itself indicates or validates such a sudden collapse of ALP primary as shown in Galaxy. Even Briggs of Galaxy admits this himself by saying;

    The polling also shows 57 per cent of voters believed Mr Rudd performed better during the campaign. Only 27 per cent believed Mr Howard had a strong campaign.

    This election may be the end of Galaxy as a serious pollster.

  39. 1339
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    1337 comments… that’s, well, that’s 1337 ;)

  40. 1340
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    Oh I missed that… Celebrate HARD this Saturday Bob… I will!

  41. 1341
    K Jin
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    Yes I am just back in. No idea where any fellow posters live. But I would think none of us would disagree that the huge carpack on Lytton RD is a terrible scar on our suburbs.
    But again I have to say brethern I have met in Bulimba do good resto jobs on QLDERS in the area.

  42. 1342
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    every also needs to remember to look at for antony’s ‘nantucket sleigh ride’ hello.

  43. 1343
    paul k
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    #1315
    Darn Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 am

    In MOE terms how much more reliable is a sample of 2000 as against a sample of 1200. Anybody know?

    Darn,

    Very rough guide: I believe 1000 is about 3% MOE and 2000 is about 2%.
    There is a formula you can use to work it out but I’m not much good at Maths.

  44. 1344
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    And here comes the Shamaham -
    http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/dennisshanahan/index.php/theaustralian/comments/politically_correct_will_stay_in_the_doghouse/

  45. 1345
    kina
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    The on-line poll agreed with the phone poll, a double poll. The last on-line polls was 56/44?

  46. 1346
    Bob from Bonner
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Well,I have work tomorrow,so off to bed.Talk to you all tomorrow night.I’m not concerned about Galaxy.I know so MANY Tories voting Labor it isn’t funny.I have the same feeling as in 1972, 1983 and 1993.So I sleep the sleep of the righteously assured! LOL!!!!

  47. 1347
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    K Jin. Thanks for the tip. I’ll be looking for a hand not too far into the future.

  48. 1348
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    I live on Cavendish Rd just up the hill hence the view to the city on the right & Mt Gravatt on the left. I been here for ages.

  49. 1349
    Dyno
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    Fascinating article by Shanahan. If it’s all true, how did Rudd ever get into the ALP?

  50. 1350
    Samuel K
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    Given how the Terror, the Oz and the CM have turned to the Ruddster, is it not possible that Galaxy has been prepared creatively to shore up support from those who might switch back to Howard if they think Labor will win too easily?

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