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ACNielsen: 57-43

Not sure where he heard this, but the more than reliable Possum Comitatus hears tomorrow’s ACNielsen will show 55-45.

UPDATE: Now the Channel Seven News tells us it’s 57-43. Either ACNielsen or Galaxy are going to look at bit silly come Sunday.

TWO-PARTY PRIMARY
ALP LNP ALP LNP
Nov 23
57 43 ? ?
Nov 16
54 46 47 43
Nov 2
55 45 48 41
Oct 19
54 46 48 42
Oct 6
56 44 47 40
Sep 8
57 43 49 39
Aug 11
55 45 46 41
Jul 14
58 42 49 39
Jun 16
57 43 48 39
May 19
58 42 48 39
April 21
58 42 50 37

1,408 Comments

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  1. 101
    Big Blind Door Knocker
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Imagine after the months of polling consistencey that we end up with 2 or three outliers in the election eve polls- in both directions.

    Actually it would not be suprising- as i said before, these polls have always been the least accurate.

  2. 102
    nath
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    if its in the middle of galaxy and ac then newspoll wins

  3. 103
    Michael
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    the roller coaster continues… do these pollster deliberately play with our emotions do you think?

  4. 104
    Nico
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    raises hand

  5. 105
    PJK for President
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Hand raised..

  6. 106
    Toby
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    57-43? No way!

  7. 107
    ruawake
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Ashley

    Work? :-P

  8. 108
    Grog
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Sportingbet is still at $1.22 get on it quick!

  9. 109
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    57 is what will happen on the day, it’ll only blow out at the last minute, like last election in reverse

  10. 110
    paul k
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know what everyone is worried about. I’ve said for months that it will be 80 to 85 seats for Labor and I see no reason to change. Stuff Galaxy. How many times have we all said it’s the trends not individual polls that matter.

  11. 111
    Big Blind Door Knocker
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Is it true as I have heard that Galaxy favours polling heavier samples in marginal seats for their national polls as a way of refining their accuracy for winning party?

  12. 112
    Lefty E
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, go you halves Nostra: How’s 54.5?

  13. 113
    RGee
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Talking about heckling of journalists at NPC on PM.

  14. 114
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Batfair at $1.25 but falling.

  15. 115
    KT
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Primary predictions anybody? I’ll go for 48-40.

  16. 116
    Snoopy Doo Doo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    At the rate of ACN, Howard and his ministers will be rushing to the shredders and readying themselves for the removalist vans on Saturday night.

  17. 117
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Galaxy’s method will prove it’s downfall in 48 hours

  18. 118
    Dave55
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Morgan starting to look almost credible …

  19. 119
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    These two polls are absolutely true to form. ACN favours Labor and Galaxy favours the coalition. Of course the problem for the coalition is that neither predicts them winning.

  20. 120
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    The funny thing is… now we need to wait for Newspoll to get a final fix on where we think things are.

    The Australian will be loving the attention if they hold off on releasing it until Saturday. I was rather hoping that Newspoll would screw it up just to make the Oz look bad.

  21. 121
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    So once again – what polls are left before Saturday?

  22. 122
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    bull butter

  23. 123
    Justin
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    i’m really interested in galaxys primaries now

  24. 124
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I’m thinking 89 seats would be a nice round number gain

  25. 125
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Heckling at journos: boo-hoo!
    Not saying this was appropriate behaviour (it wasn’t) but aren’t the journos precious little darlings! Wouldn’t last five minutes as politicians if that kind of heckling unnerves them.

  26. 126
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    LTEP at 48

    ‘Just keeping some balance’.

    This is not the ABC.

  27. 127
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!

  28. 128
    Howard Hater
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Don’t forget that Galaxy poll done for the SBS Insight Program was also a 52-48 one.
    I’m sceptical about Galaxy, because I don’t trust David Briggs. He’s made a few too many comments recently that could be interpreted as supporting one side of politics.
    If I’m correct, ACN got close to the final election result in their final poll of that campaign.

  29. 129
    ice444
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ll got for 53.6% of the vote and 85 seats :)

  30. 130
    James
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    @mr0speaker: Out of interest, what makes the Galaxy methodology different, and how is it bad if they got the closest prediction last time? Could it be luck? Or trying to ‘play it safe’?

  31. 131
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Heckling at journos: boo-hoo!
    Not saying this was appropriate behaviour (it wasn’t) but aren’t the journos precious little darlings! Wouldn’t last five minutes as politicians if that kind of heckling unnerves them.

    How stupid do you have to be though?

    Who do they think will be making decisions on how to report the last few days of the campaign?

    Maybe THOSE EXACT JOURNALISTS?

    Another campaign masterstroke.

  32. 132
    Julie
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    centrebet still say 1.22/4.35 … wonder how long that will stay before the widening starts? ;-)

  33. 133
    Hemingway
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Iasbet has Labor @ 1.23 and Coalition @ 4.25

  34. 134
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Glen says: bull butter

    Yeah I think so, but I think the same about the Galaxy result. The reality is almost certainly somewhere in between… which means the Libs are screwed.

    But we already knew that.

  35. 135
    Big Blind Door Knocker
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    132 Julie

    Its pretty wide already as far as two horse races go

  36. 136
    Spiros
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Here’s what’ll happen.

    Labor will get 54% or 55%.

    Newspoll will say they are the best, while Galaxy and ACn will claim they were better with primaries, or say they were right within MOE, or whatever.

    Labor will win 95 seats.

    On Sunday morning, LTEP will say

    “all these results might be overturned by postal and absentee votes and challenges in the court of disputed returns”.

  37. 137
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know why their methodology differs, but they are clearly going against the grain of all other polls, so either they’ve got it miraculously right, or the alternate method mentioned earlier will prove to be flawed.

  38. 138
    Steven Kaye
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure Mr Stirton will have no problem finding another job come Monday…then again, who’d want to hire him?

  39. 139
    cityblue
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Herald Sun backs Howard

    DESPITE winning the campaign and most political battles this year, Kevin Rudd has failed to mount a convincing case for government. For this, and other crucial reasons, the Herald Sun will tomorrow recommend a vote for John Howard and his successor Peter Costello. Read the full argument in tomorrow’s Herald Sun and then join our online discussion.

    comment/ surprise, surprise…. NOT

  40. 140
    Lefty E
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Hehe Spiros.

  41. 141
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Patrick @ 131,
    Agree it’s stupid. But MSM journos are truly pathetic if that upset them!

  42. 142
    James
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    @Julie: Might be a bit of movement tomorrow, but given the mixed poll results that we know of already, I doubt it will be much. Today’s antics combined with the polls could see the ALP tighten up a bit. The LNP may dip below $4 given the large gap – a few punters might want to try their luck on what appears to be a lame horse…

  43. 143
    Misty
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Murdoch has turned big time it would seem.

    At last.

  44. 144
    Lefty E
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Fact: galaxy are push polling with the “how close to unions” question.

    I dont know the impact of that, but its whats going on.

  45. 145
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Where did they poll???

    Batman, Wills, Gorton, Sydney, Hunter, Newcastle WTF????

    57 – 43 throughout the campaign the polls have not been that far apart, 53-47 is probably where we are at atm.

    57-43 is bull butter just as galaxy would have been bull butter if it was 50-50.

  46. 146
    Asanque
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Don’t worry Steven Kaye, you and your bunch of cronies will have lots of time in the dole queue as well.

  47. 147
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    ANC’s 57 is closer to 54-56 in the final days than Galaxy’s 52 I think

  48. 148
    codger
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Beautiful one day ruddy beautidul the next. The ‘Kraken Awakes’.

  49. 149
    Amaranthus
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Said this at PS but worth repeating here:

    What’s right in the middle of the Galaxy/ACN numbers? 55:45 that’s what

    Just like the long-term averages have been telling us, Poss’ earlier prediction of 55.12 still looks right to me. Plus Jackman and others have done alternative pseph and come up with basically the same number of 55. It’s too irresistible to ignore.

  50. 150
    Asanque
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Glen:
    57/43 is within the margin of error of 55/45 that it’s been all year.
    As is 52/48.

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