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ACNielsen: 57-43

Not sure where he heard this, but the more than reliable Possum Comitatus hears tomorrow’s ACNielsen will show 55-45.

UPDATE: Now the Channel Seven News tells us it’s 57-43. Either ACNielsen or Galaxy are going to look at bit silly come Sunday.

TWO-PARTY PRIMARY
ALP LNP ALP LNP
Nov 23
57 43 ? ?
Nov 16
54 46 47 43
Nov 2
55 45 48 41
Oct 19
54 46 48 42
Oct 6
56 44 47 40
Sep 8
57 43 49 39
Aug 11
55 45 46 41
Jul 14
58 42 49 39
Jun 16
57 43 48 39
May 19
58 42 48 39
April 21
58 42 50 37

1,408 Comments

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  1. 201
    Michael
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    we believe what we want to believe

    labor will win the election but it won’t be 57-43

  2. 202
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    How can in the same period of time galaxy come into 52-48, and ACN go to 57-43

    MOE?

  3. 203
    Spiros
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    It’s not going to be 57%.

    It is going to be 54 -55 %.

    And the number of seats held by Labor will start with a 9.

    This is what all the objective evidence and all the objective commentators are saying.

  4. 204
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    This Moe guy sure cops a lot of blame around here.

  5. 205
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    I hate Moe

  6. 206
    TofK
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I’m declaring it (again tentatively), Galaxy is a PUSH POLL in safe coalition seats ;)

  7. 207
    SirEggo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Ashley 196

    Yeh, probably right.

    The 57-43 probably an outlier.

    But still

    YOOOOOO BEEEEEEYOOOOOOOTEEEEEEEE

    Sorry, couldn’t control myself

    37 hours 26 minutes till polls open……

  8. 208
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I might have to take back my earlier Myth No 2 (not believing in conspiracy theories about Galaxy) if it’s true they’re doing push polling.
    Do we have a confirmed recent case of this, where we’re sure it was for a published poll?

  9. 209
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    If anyone still has any doubts about 57/43 catch a bit of the replay of the Coconut at the Nat Press Club today. He was dead-set practically crying.

    Rodent :(

    Rudd :)

  10. 210
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    mr0speaker :

    You’ve only been using it for one day, I’ve had mine for years.

    poll0bludger ™

  11. 211
    gough
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    The galaxy poll is a doctored report trying to create the impression of momentum for the coalition with a hope of persuading undecideds.

    Galaxy play the role of all those dodgy ‘polls’ in american presidential campaigns which try to create the impression of a ‘republican’ winner over a sustained period.

    Problem is with pamphletgate and Rupert playing both sides of the fence this election (based on real polls) no real chance for oxygen in a ‘comeback’ argument in this poll, although libs will still try to spin it that way.

    Galaxy will do a poll on the morning/day of the election and it wil be around 54/55 ALP thereby covering their behinds, but Galaxy’s role is as always a participant in the process rather than an observer.

  12. 212
    Michael
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Speakers – and don’t try and steal my name either – it took me ages to think of it

  13. 213
    Julie
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Glen,

    I have waited 11 long years for this, I am going to enjoy every minute of it between now and end of the evening on Saturday. And every minute of it once Rudd and company are officially in. What goes around comes around and it is now our turn.

    The last time I felt this good was on the evening of election returns in 1992 when we chucked out 12 years worth of Republicans for the Democrats in the USA.

    I am officially opening the Election night bar tonight :) , even if that means I need to go to for restocking it between now and Satuday :) :)

  14. 214
    Spiros
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    And the Lindsay affair will provide some nice padding of 0.5% or so.

  15. 215
    turfmeister
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Why can’t it be 57 -43 on the day? Just because it’s never happened doesn’t mean it can’t.

    All year it’s been 55 – 45 and as the wheels go cartwheeling off the Liberal campaign bus, some of the passengers are jumping across to the winning side.

  16. 216
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Centre,
    I thought he was fine at NPC today. Given the circumstances in fact, I thought it was a textbook example of the stoicism that’s got him as far as he has in politics.
    I mean, a normal person would’ve rung in sick, I reckon.

  17. 217
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Moe has somehow got himself onto all the pollsters phone records, using a large number of false names.

    When Galaxy calls him (repeatedly) he puts on a different voice each time, and votes for Howard. Whenever ACN calls him he votes for Rudd.

    That’s how the ACN and Galaxy results can be explained by Moe.

  18. 218
    Burgey
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Now, here’s a banner I’m loving:

    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/

    “Time for a Historic Change.

    Telegraph Backs Rudd”.

  19. 219
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Julie ive suffered defeats from the Libs in Victoria and WA i know what its like to lose and i am not looking forward to losing this one but despite what you might think of JWH Australia is better off than we were in 1996.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi37C6eHAeg&feature=user

  20. 220
    Steven Kaye
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Crap. In the real world, far removed from Stirton’s masturbatory fantasies, the Aussie dollar is dropping, closing at 87c. Is this what happens when a Krudd Government is merely contemplated? Damn.

  21. 221
    Hemingway
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    SBS gave the Kelly Lindsay scandal a good long report.

    Also stated ACN 57 to 43. Did not mention Galaxy.

  22. 222
    SirEggo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Ashley 217

    Moe is worth about 2% in these polls, isn’t he? LOL

  23. 223
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think it counts as trolling if it’s a statement of fact: Steven Kaye, you’re an idiot.

    Please keep posting here after Sunday.

  24. 224
    Grog
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Anyone know what quesitons were asked in both polls?

    Didn’t someone in a thread yeasterday mention something about a who is closer to unions question?

  25. 225
    Peter of Marino
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Dario@205

    Try orange juice?

  26. 226
    Dave55
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Money moving on Bennalong at Centrebet: 1.63/2.15

  27. 227
    Lose the election please
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    thanks for the comedy Steven

  28. 228
    Justin
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    we’re comin back! 95 seats for the true economic conservatives

  29. 229
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    What was the corresponding ACN poll in 2004? Were they out by a long way?

  30. 230
    Spiros
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Cry us a river Steven.

  31. 231
    Lose the election please
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Gary Bruce, ACN’s result in ‘04 was 54/46 (Coalition/ALP)

    They overestimated the Coalition’s primary vote but got the ALP’s pretty much spot on.

  32. 232
    Simon
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Choose your reality! Nielson or Galaxy. Telegraph or Herald Sun.

  33. 233
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    whose got the coolade?

  34. 234
    Steven Kaye
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    #223 –

    “I don’t think it counts as trolling if it’s a statement of fact: Steven Kaye, you’re an idiot.”

    And you, Patrick Bateman, are loonier than your fictional namesake.

  35. 235
    Michael
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Glen 219 – I don’t agree – although I am sure you can make an argument – it’ll just be based on different values to me.
    Despite John Howard saying that Australians are prouder than they were a decade ago, I disagree. I am ashamed of being Australian now and I never was before.
    In my view, John Howard has ruined this country and he deserves to lose his seat.
    Stephen Kaye 220 – not even worth responding to such ignorance.

  36. 236
    Nick
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Ashley @ 179: rotfl, i’m exactly the same. PB is more addictive than crack cocaine laced with caffeine and chocolate.

    204, 205, 217: hahahahahaha :-)

  37. 237
    SirEggo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    The last ACN before 2004 was 54-46 Libs

    The over estimated the Libs by 1.3(?)

    That means this could really be 58.3-41.7!

    Or not….LOL

  38. 238
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    If you’ll excuse me, I have some reservations at Dorsia.

  39. 239
    paul k
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    220
    Steven Kaye Says:
    November 22nd, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    Crap. In the real world, far removed from Stirton’s masturbatory fantasies, the Aussie dollar is dropping, closing at 87c.Is this what happens when a Krudd Government is merely contemplated? Damn.

    Steven,

    You left out the earthquakes and plagues of locusts again.

  40. 240
    John Ryan
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    As I’ve said many times now, Galaxy’s reputation will be in tatters come Saturday night. The proof is that their rogue polls always come when the Coalition needs it most.

    It’s absolutely shameless, and so foolish making their final poll wrong. No doubt they will use the leaflet-gate scandal to explain the massive to Labor after their poll…

  41. 241
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Alright, I’ve gotta head home.

    Nobody say anything interesting while I’m away.

  42. 242
    Dasho
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Glen @ 200

    “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NizKjT8V0uI

    buzzz ding Tory style”

    Man that was lame. I thought a teenager made it in his bedroom until I saw it was from LiberalParty07.

  43. 243
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    A little something from Glen’s Dad. Wait till he gets back from work today to watch the News!

    The Oz.

    Liberals can learn from Monty Python

    FROM THE RIGHT: Ian Smith | November 22, 2007

    Always look on the bright side of life.

    The polls are terrible, some of our stars are falling (just what has happened to Tony Abbott in this campaign?) and Kevin07 is attracting more fans than Justin Timberlake. But we must take heed of Eric Idle’s immortal song.

    Fellow conservatives do not fret. We still have more than 48 hours left.

    Although Newspoll shows 54 per cent ALP and 46 per cent Coalition, it is only a flesh wound.

    To show the Right likes a challenge, Media Monitors reflects that over the past week Australia has been debating issues that are the domain of others: education and climate change.

    Kevin has convinced people that he will be to Australian education what Eli Whitney was to America’s industrial revolution, while Bob Brown has a firmer grip on climate change than Posh has on Becks.

    Regarding education, as the ever-insightful Peter Ruehl wrote, all Kevin will do when every kid gets a computer at school is give them the chance to waste as much time surfing the web there as they already do at home.

    As for climate change, Bob’s been on about this for years. It still snows in winter and even rained in Melbourne yesterday. Yes, I may have gone to work in Speedos last week because the temperature nudged 50 degrees in Adelaide but really Bob, what are you on about? We can all adapt.

    John Howard maintains a cracking pace. People are consistently confounded by the speed of his morning walk.

    Senator Simon Birmingham, in his early 30s, says he had to run to keep up with the PM.

    Johnny is the man we need to lead this country. Run to the booths behind him on Saturday everyone. You’re not there yet Kevin!

    Meanwhile:
    Some things in life are bad,
    They can really make you mad,
    Other things just make you swear and curse,
    When you’re chewing on life’s gristle,
    Don’t grumble, give a whistle,
    And this’ll help things turn out for the best

    Ian Smith is executive chairman of media relations group Gavin Anderson (Australia).

  44. 244
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Thanks LTEP. – I just don’t believe the conditions have favoured the coalition to the extent where Labor’s vote has gone down and the coalitions has gone up. It just doesn’t ring true.

  45. 245
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    What happened to Nostro he popped up but now hes gone?

    Steven has a point if only this bad economic forecast could have happened a week ago oh well.

  46. 246
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    And don’t even think about leaking the Newspoll result until I get back.

  47. 247
    TofK
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Kaye you economic fool, a lower dollar enhances our export competitiveness and reduces our trade deficit.

  48. 248
    Arbie Jay
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Crikey and Possum and a few other sites had comments on the Galaxy push poll of September (I think it was).

    David Briggs of Galaxy does not do his credibility any good when he say “we (Liberals) are still in the race.

    Galaxy are a joke, as Possum notes they can round down and allocate preferences as to how they see fit so that a 52-48 can have a mid range of 53.5-46.5 and an upper range of 55-45, but for some reason galaxy takes the lower range of 52-48.

  49. 249
    paul k
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    #241
    Ashley Says:
    November 22nd, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    Alright, I’ve gotta head home.

    Nobody say anything interesting while I’m away.

    .
    .

    Finally he’s gone. Now we can talk about Ashley.

  50. 250
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    I really am about to leave. Just… one… more… refresh.

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