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Newspoll state swings

Time for a new thread. Here’s a chart showing state-level swings to Labor as recorded by Newspoll throughout the campaign. Note that the most recent result seems to indicate a mild Coalition recovery in Victoria being offset by worsening results elsewhere.

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  1. 501
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Surely you can tell which it is meant to be by the context of what they were saying. A 52-48 result would be a pretty significant result for the media, whereas 54-46 would be all-over-red-rover.

  2. 502
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    No, GB, this is what Ch 10 said

  3. 503
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Channel 10 have lost the plot.

  4. 504
    Toby
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    They mustve meant that Labor has 52 of the 2PP and 46 of the primary?

  5. 505
    Derek Corbett
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    areaman @ 389

    News has pig-brain “readers” to shepherd.

  6. 506
    alpal
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    He said 52/46. ACN worse. The news report was an absolute shocker for the Libs.

  7. 507
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    52-46 hey?
    Trust Ten to be first with the news that counts – not!!!

  8. 508
    NB
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    492

    I’m with you Swing Lowe, more likely to be 52-48. I reckon 46 just slipped out because hes been saying it all year.

  9. 509
    Michael
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    What was the tpp in the last galaxy before this one?

  10. 510
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Michael — it was 53-47

  11. 511
    Michael
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    so it’s barely a change then

  12. 512
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

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  13. 513
    Nostradamus
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    ACN worse – so AC Nielsen has 51-49 or 50-50!

    All over red rover for Krudd!

  14. 514
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    53 – 47, excellent. No change then. Landslide territory.

  15. 515
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    No, Nostro – worse for the Libs!

    Margin is bigger in ACN…

  16. 516
    Lefty E
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    I can live with 52 from Galaxy, if true. Means ACN will be 54!

    And yes, sorry about that all – but the 50/50 crap was pissing me off.

  17. 517
    John Ryan
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    If he’d meant 52-48 he would have said something like “but Government surging back” or some bullsh-t. I dare say it’s 54-46.

    If not, it’s another shameless rouge released by Galaxy, just when the Coalition needs it most. I didn’t think they’d try that stunt so close to the election – but if they do it’ll be great to see them finally discredited on Sunday morning as being further out than Morgan!

  18. 518
    Will
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Not only is it in MOE, it can be a rounding error here or there, especially taking preferences in to account.

  19. 519
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    GB, assume it is 52/48 until we hear more…

  20. 520
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    514 Nostradamus – somehow I think they may have meant worse for the government.

  21. 521
    Julie
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Are the other numbers out yet? Can someone summarize in one concise post the actual numbers released so far? I am confused by the numbers listed so far. They don’t add up properly …..

  22. 522
    Will
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    When was Galaxy taken, how big is it, blah, blah, blah?

  23. 523
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Labor won’t mind a 52-48…. staves off talk of a landslide.

  24. 524
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Numbers noted by Ch 10:

    Galaxy 52/46 – yes I know it doesn’t add up to 100, but that’s what they said.

    Also said the Labor lead in ACN was BIGGER, but didn’t say what.

  25. 525
    Mr Denmore
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Why doesn’t someone ring Channel Ten and ask them? Be sure to use words of one syllable, though.

  26. 526
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Summary:

    Galaxy either 52/48 or 54/46, Ten reported it in a confusing way
    ACN no-one knows but Ten said worse than Galaxy (for the Govt it seems)

  27. 527
    alpal
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    He said ACN was worse for the Liberals

  28. 528
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Julie, all we’ve heard is apparently Ten news said 52-46. No one exactly sure whether they meant 52-48 or 54-46 (or 52-46 plus 2% undecided??).

  29. 529
    John Ryan
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Galaxy polls should be taken with a pinch of cyanide.

  30. 530
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    524 Ashley – do you ACTUALLY know what the Galaxy poll figures are?

  31. 531
    Toby
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    OK, so Ive now been told that Galaxy is ACTUALLY 54-46, not 52-48… and that ACN is worse. This is unconfirmed info. ANyone know?

  32. 532
    areaman
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t see the news but it could also be 52 2PP, 46 primary.

  33. 533
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    GB – we’re just repeating the numbers said on Ch 10

  34. 534
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    52 -48 Hung parliament according to Ozpoll calculator :-)

  35. 535
    Rates Analyst
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Are we sure it wasn’t 50 to 46 on primaries?

  36. 536
    NB
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Just called channel 10 newsroom, they’ve said they’ll correct it later in the bulletin. Wouldn’t tell me what it was though :(

  37. 537
    SirEggo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Bloody Hell

    I wish Ch10 knoew how to count to 100

    Now we’re just running around in circles….

  38. 538
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    RA, I don’t know if it’s primaries or TPP, but the numbers said was 52/46 (seems more likely to be TPP though)

  39. 539
    alpal
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Yes, John – well and truly hung

  40. 540
    Rates Analyst
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Yes but did she say

    “Fifty-two to forty six”

    or

    “Fifty to forty-six”

    Do you see the distinction?

  41. 541
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    524 Ashley - do you ACTUALLY know what the Galaxy poll figures are?

    No!! I’m hanging out for someone to tell us. Just saying that Labor wouldn’t mind 52-48 too much because it will stop people thinking about a landslide and voting against them.

  42. 542
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Doesn’t matter, anyway.

    Just heard researcher reporting on ABC local radio 891 her findings that Liberal Ads most disliked by respondents, for their anti-union and negative, long winded content.

  43. 543
    Noocat
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Sloppy reporting on Ten’s behalf, but 52-48 sounds about right, especially if they are also saying that the margin is bigger for Nielsen.

  44. 544
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    OK – let’s just wait until the correction is issued…

  45. 545
    Peter of Marino
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Come on everybody. Could we please get the numbers right.I don’t know weather to jump for joy or jump off a chair?

  46. 546
    Coota Bulldog
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    It was a slip of the tongue by bongornio. Apparently, the primary vote with galaxy is tied between the ALP and coalition, and the final figure is supposed to be 52-48.

  47. 547
    NB
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    541 RA

    It was definitely 52-46 and a mistake by the reporter according to CH10

  48. 548
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Here’s an idea – let’s wait until we have actual confirmation!

    Or we could speculate wildly about different ways of saying different strings of numbers…

  49. 549
    Jim
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Ring Mike Larkin (the overly-friendly idiot weatherman) at Channel Ten and ask him. He would have more clue than anyone in the entire news department IMHBCO.

  50. 550
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    NB 548 — huh?

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