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Newspoll state swings

Time for a new thread. Here’s a chart showing state-level swings to Labor as recorded by Newspoll throughout the campaign. Note that the most recent result seems to indicate a mild Coalition recovery in Victoria being offset by worsening results elsewhere.

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  1. 551
    NB
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Coota, got a source?

  2. 552
    TofK
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Either it was 52TPP and 46 primary (doubtful), or 52-48TPP (probable).
    We have our first ingredient for tonight’s poll cocktail, it is slightly bitter, the sweet stuff to follow!
    I don’t think that the DT would jump in the Labor pool if they thought they were going to drown.

  3. 553
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Coota Bulldog,

    Where did you get that info from?

  4. 554
    John Ryan
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    52-48 is as rouge as they come. No doubt Galaxy will try and explain away the different on Sunday as it being down to the Kelly race-smear leaflet…

  5. 555
    Noocat
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    “Are we sure it wasn’t 50 to 46 on primaries?”

    RA, VERY unlikely. That would only leave 4% for minor parties and undecideds.

  6. 556
    Toby
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    547 – Coota Bulldog: How can the primary vote be TIED? No chance. Surely…?

  7. 557
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    It was a slip of the tongue by bongornio. Apparently, the primary vote with galaxy is tied between the ALP and coalition, and the final figure is supposed to be 52-48.

    Source?

  8. 558
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Toby — could be 44 each.

  9. 559
    Ian
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    It could be 52-46 on primaries which leaves 2% for others – and a 53-47 TPP.

  10. 560
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    If it is a hung parliament will Bob Katter favour Coalition or Labor he was a former National was he not?

  11. 561
    S
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Have we covered that the Daily Telegraph is advocating Rudd?

    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22803410-5001021,00.html

  12. 562
    NB
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    551 Ashley

    I called the newsroom and they acknowledged it was a mistake, said they would correct it later in the bulletin.

  13. 563
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    NB so what are the real figures?

  14. 564
    Steveo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Very bad reporting from a dare i say poorly conducted network

  15. 565
    Nostradamus
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    The upshot of it all is that the tortoise gets ever nearer to the hare, and the tortoise will win the race. We shouldn’t forget that the Coalition will probably win the election with 52% of the two party preferred.

  16. 566
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    NB 563 — Right. I thought you meant the reporter had made a mistake and it was actually 52-46 (which obviously doesn’t make sense, cause that’s what the reporter said).

  17. 567
    John Ryan
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    John of Melb:

    we don’t know yet! that’s the whole point.
    Ten News said it incorrectly as “52-46″

    They can’t add up so we’re waiting to have this clarified.

    54-46 follows logic. 52-48 follows Galaxy rouge logic to suit Coalition timing…

  18. 568
    Jim
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Refresh, Refresh, Refresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, RefreshRefresh, Refresh

    Again.

  19. 569
    Asanque
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Rofl Jim, same here.

  20. 570
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Ten are fantastic aren’t they?
    What are they doing on Sat night – three hours of Big Brother highlights, followed by a 30 second update at 10.30 that says Kevin Howard has been elected prime minister?

  21. 571
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    ACN’s gotta be 54-46 (no, I don’t actually know, this is a *prediction*).

  22. 572
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Is anyone actually watching the TV?

    Or are we all just killing William’s hosting bandwidth clicking refresh on this site?

  23. 573
    Lefty E
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Thats a truly useless performance from 10.

  24. 574
    Julie
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    569, 570;

    here too :) :) ……

    btw, Spears was very fair on Rudd and not hard nosed at all, but I must admit that I was distracted by hitting the refresh button on the laptop :)

  25. 575
    Steveo
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Well if she sad 50 to 46

    then i would say she got the 1st part wrong

    so my guess would be the real result would be

    54 to 46

  26. 576
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    are we all just killing William’s hosting bandwidth clicking refresh on this site?

    pretty much

  27. 577
    Misty
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Who was closest to getting the actual result last time? Galaxy or AC Neilsen? I know Newspoll were way off due to their preference distribution.

  28. 578
    Toby
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    10 News is on in 5 minutes in Adelaide – will let ya know when they mention it.

  29. 579
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    the narrowing!
    *thank god for bogangate

  30. 580
    Jim
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    If its 52:48 then it could go to the wire.
    Earlier post showed how polls have been wrong for the last several elections.
    All talk of a landslide is wishful ‘bull butter’ in the absence of more compelling evidence IMHBCO

  31. 581
    Ashley
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Is anyone actually watching the TV?
    Or are we all just killing William’s hosting bandwidth clicking refresh on this site?

    LOL. I hope someone is actually watching.

  32. 582
    Lefty E
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Anyway, seems we know 52 is the minimum Galaxy, and ACN is higher.

    All good!

  33. 583
    Nostradamus
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Galaxy was the closest to the actual results last time, underestimating their result by one point for the Coalition. Their final poll was 48 Labor 52 Coalition.

  34. 584
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Dyno I think there will be a simpsons marathon on saturday night

  35. 585
    Julie
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Toby, do you get it live or is it delayed? you might get the same boo-boo ….

  36. 586
    Nostradamus
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    LeftyE: If Labor get 52% of the 2pp they will probably lose the election.

  37. 587
    TofK
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Patrick, lol. I think were all watching the bludger, and the correction might slip us by ;)

  38. 588
    Crikey Whitey
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Ten are trying to get all of us to watch them.

    Sneaky.

  39. 589
    nath
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    simpsons marathon hey, now that’s tempting.

  40. 590
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    If Labor get 52% of the 2pp they will probably lose the election.

    Remember what they say about polls. Never take them in isolation…

  41. 591
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    586 Nostradamus – keep dreaming.

  42. 592
    nath
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    howard on 10?

  43. 593
    John Ryan
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Ten News still hasn’t corrected in Sydney.

    It’ll probably be a footnote before the last weather update, if at all now…

  44. 594
    Asanque
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    I thuoght all the Libs were saying that there was only 1 poll that mattered :P

    Now they care about Galaxy.

  45. 595
    PP
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Nostradamus @ 587 – “If Labor get 52% of the 2pp they will probably lose the election.”

    Nonsense. Npone has ever lost from 52%. That’s just talking points to shore up Liberal MPs.

  46. 596
    areaman
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    If Labor get 52% of the 2pp they will probably lose the election.

    Not if it’s uniform:

    http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2007/calculator/?swing=national&national=4.7&nsw=7.9&vic=7&qld=11.1&wa=5.4&sa=9.4&tas=5&act=5&nt=5&retiringfactor=1

    and all the reasearch we’ve seen suggest it’s stronger in marginals and liberal seats

  47. 597
    Toby
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Was it said during the bulletin, or on a pre-recorded story/montage?

  48. 598
    Dyno
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Main effect of 52-48 would be to get the Liberal HTV brandishers out of bed on Sat morning. Which they might not have done otherwise, after today.

  49. 599
    ruawake
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    If Labor get 52% of the 2pp they will probably lose the election.

    Bollocks. ;)

  50. 600
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    If you average the coming polls you will probably get the true picture.

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