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Newspoll state swings

Time for a new thread. Here’s a chart showing state-level swings to Labor as recorded by Newspoll throughout the campaign. Note that the most recent result seems to indicate a mild Coalition recovery in Victoria being offset by worsening results elsewhere.

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  1. 151
    red wombat
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Wouldn’t be funny if the reporters when they get back to work go “you know what? f#@k em” and type what they really think of the LNP.

  2. 152
    slartybardfast
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Well Grattan wasn’t intimidated thats for sure, if fact Old man J up at the dias was shitting himself cos he could see she wasn’t impressed, if he could I think Ol J would have told them to shut up.

  3. 153
    BV
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Between Rob’s google research skillz and the Kelly Gang’s alleged desktop publishing operation, the Liberals seem to support Rudd’s support for laptops and technology in deed if not word.

  4. 154
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    A comment on the radio by a Lindsay voter. We have always voted Liberal, I don’t know what we are going to do now. We have two days to make up our minds. The person sounded very down.

  5. 155
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Glen,

    Sledging an icon like Gratten by a bunch of immature Liberal plants is very poor form. I suspect the coverage will be wall to wall shite for the Libs.

  6. 156
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    I was referring how the journalists couldnt help themselves asking 90% of their questions about Lindsay, im glad Grattan got booed for brining Lindsay up for the 8th time enoughs enough.

  7. 157
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Chris B

    I admired the fact that most reporters ignored the Howard hoons up the back and asked their questions regardless (did anyone notice that deranged tory David Barnett in the crowd..)
    They obviously had trouble selling tickets to the press so the gates were opened to the lib riff raff. Steven Kaye was probably there..

  8. 158
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I was referring how the journalists couldnt help themselves asking 90% of their questions about Lindsay, im glad Grattan got booed for brining Lindsay up for the 8th time enoughs enough.

    Oh FFS Glen, we have a FREE PRESS they can ask whatever they want.

  9. 159
    frank frederic
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    hahahahh Sean @ 81
    no hard feeling mate, in her article “Little_value_in_a_Priceless_election”, Overington talking about missing Matt Price (hence “priceless”) comments/analysis in this election. More or less a “tribute” to Mr. Price

  10. 160
    Paul K
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    asking 90% of their questions about Lindsay

    You’re right Glen. They should have done their jobs properly and just asked about Union Bosses just like Rupert’s instructions. Silly of those journos.

  11. 161
    Lose the election please
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Glen she’s just doing her job. This Lindsay story is likely to sell more papers than a discussion of the Libs campaign lines, which noone is interested in.

  12. 162
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    No Paul is it too much to ask for journos to ask about policy?

  13. 163
    gusface
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    will

    suspect we will hear more about this one
    http://voiceoftheshire.blogspot.com/
    - EB is definitely in the frame
    what do you think brother glen and elect vessel esj ????

  14. 164
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Frank

    She’s still an idiot.

  15. 165
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    LTEP 7 other people asked the same questions she didn’t need to ask another for crying out loud…

  16. 166
    Ron Brown
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    First comment is nothing has changed in any polls re the result – a landslide

    Second comment re ALLEGED improvement for Labor in NSW and ALLEGED decrease for Labor in Vic is SIMPLY UNTRUE

    The previous Newspoll had an UNTRUE few $ lead to Labour in NSW and
    an UNTRUE 19% lead in Vic

    This poll has merely CORRECTED Newspoll’s wrong earlier state breakup poll

    Frankly , the idea of doing a National Poll is correct BUT the subsequent breakup of that National poll into state by state is flawed as the state samples are too small

    Irrespective of the above , to use a ‘Ruddism’ …am I happy ?……..ABSOLUTELY
    …why ?…..because the correct polling (the National polls) are consistent for Rudd
    by a large 2PP margin

  17. 167
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    No Paul is it too much to ask for journos to ask about policy?

    They can ask about WHATEVER THEY WANT TO ASK!

    Your attitude to the media, and your admiration for Ian Smith suggests you have some sort of deep hatred for democracy.

  18. 168
    George
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn Says:”Oh FFS Glen, we have a FREE PRESS they can ask whatever they want.”

    I think there’s something more to Glen breaking out into German. Meanwhile at the Press Club:

    M. Grattan: “Prime minister, on the leaflet that was…”

    Glen [Interrupting]: “Grattan! We don not vask unt Fuhrer difficult questions… NEXT!”

  19. 169
    red wombat
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Grattan should have asked JHO if Jackies husband was OK and if he needed counseling after those nasty union bullies stuffed a pamphlet in his and and took photos?

  20. 170
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    LTEP 7 other people asked the same questions she didn’t need to ask another for crying out loud…

    Are you saying that “Mr Speaker” should’ve ruled them out of order!?

  21. 171
    Derek Corbett
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    jaundiced view @ 127

    I noticed that. It was an almost hostile reaction to Michelle having the cheek to ask the question. A strange moment in the whole affair. It was the clapping that got me, too. Last hurrah. The final rally of the troops. Howard’s finale.

    Someone earlier on this thread – Stephen Kayke – referred to the question on climate change from a journo grub. Howard responded with basic orifice stuff, which is about the level of a Liberal joke. Howard is certainly a climate-change septic, but knows all about farts …

  22. 172
    Rates Analyst
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Glen you personally asked about earwax about 10 times on this very blog. Since the topic at hand today is illegal behaviour by a member of the NSW Liberal Party Executive I think the journos can ask 8 different questions, even if they are similar.

  23. 173
    Hemingway
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Whew! Now I finally get it. What’s transpired in Lindsay is no big deal, thanks to Skynews’ downgrade of the scandal to merely “questions”. Hope it makes Mr. Howard feel better he hasn’t been deserted by his cheerleading squad on Skynews:

    Pamphlet questions
    Pamphlet questions
    Updated: 15:21, Thursday November 22, 2007

    There are reports that the husband of Karen Chijoff, the Liberal candidate for Lindsay, was involved in the distribution of a fake election pamphlet aimed at inciting anti-Muslim sentiment.

  24. 174
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    165 Glen Yeah, that was great wasn’t it.

  25. 175
    Paul K
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Glen,

    Yes Glen if it had been Labor caught with dishonest phamphlets I’m sure you wouldn’t expect the jounos to ask Rudd many questions.

  26. 176
    noel
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    loving glen’s posts in german. I feel like the Allies toward the end of WW2, worrying about the Germans wheeling out a secret weapon and grabbing a last-minute victory. Thankfully all Lib weapons so far have either fizzed or blown up in their faces.

  27. 177
    Gippslander
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    34
    George Says:
    November 22nd, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    That’s what it says on the pamphlet I have here – next to it will be a heroine shooting gallery, then a union bosses lounge, and just a little further than that a fairy shop.

    Hey George.. would thar heroine be Jackie Kelly?

  28. 178
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Sure ask 1 or 2 but don’t waste half an hour on that anyway id rather they scrutinise Rudd’s dodgy policies.

  29. 179
    Geepee
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    It’s a press club lunch. Press = news. News = Lindsay. The Libs have been talking about policy all thru the campaign.

    Makes Kelly & co’s shenanigans all the more reprehensible (from the Tory standpoint).

    Nicht wahr, Greg?

  30. 180
    George
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    he he, Gippslander @ 177, I mean heroin of course, but that works for me!

  31. 181
    Paul K
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Glen,

    Maybe if Howard would confess his crimes the journos wouldn’t need to keep asking.

  32. 182
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    165 Glen Yeah, that was great wasn’t it.

    Yeah it was my favourite part. It will be in my highlights package. :-P

  33. 183
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Glen,

    And that is why you guys are getting a bollocking.

    Just because you have had enough does not mean the story is over. New details emerged as the conference proceeded. Do you think Howard knew that Clijoff’s husband was involved? Of course he did, but made no reference beforehand. By not revealing all up front the story will eke out over the coming hours and days and be far far worse for the Libs overall.

    The possibility that the spouses of Kelly and Clijoff could end up in jail is a big story. The fact that the Liberal Director says he has done nothing that wasn’t authorised means there are many aspects of this story to be explored.

    It is a nice juicy scandal at the worst possible moment for the Libs as individuals and as a party.

  34. 184
    imacca
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Glen, the dirty tricks in Lindsay are after all the issue of the day, and it was made the issue by the Liberal Party. For Kelly’s husband to be involved when she is known to be close to the PM is a very, very poor look. Then Rattus’s idiot mate Jackie defends it as a prank??

    And a new take on an old song for the kiddies out there (just for you Glen mate!!).

    the wheels on the bus fall off off off, off off off, off off off,
    the wheels on the bus fall off off off,
    all around the town.

    the engine of the bus goes boom clank hiss, goes boom clank hiss,goes boom clank hiss,
    the engine of the bus goes boom clank hiss,
    all around the town.

    the Rat driving the bus goes WTF,WTF,WTF,
    the Rat driving the bus goes WTF,
    before election day.

    Bye bye Rattus!

  35. 185
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Glen your lust for Julie Bishop is sickening

  36. 186
    Socrates
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    98
    Glen Says:
    November 22nd, 2007 at 2:49 pm
    Zumindest haben wir den Bürgermeister von Brisbane, wenn wir verlieren.

    You do know that Newmann is a Liberal Mayor of a Council with a Labor majority? Brisbane City may have a budget larger than Tasmania’s but still, the BAC is not a big enough rat hole to accomodate every unemployed Liberal staffer in Australia, (even if Newman didn’t have to ask permission from his other Councillors). Unlike the other bunker escape, there is no Argentina this time.

  37. 187
    Alex McDonnel
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    The Kelly Gang’s effort will be all over the 6.00 pm news today and in all the papers tomorrow. Howard needed that like rabies – he will be kicking a few arses later today. But as someone said earlier here, dirty tricks and lies are part of Howard’s ‘liberal’ ethos, so we shouldn’t be surprised when this type of desperate stunt is perped by his supporters.

  38. 188
    Grooski
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Guys, confirming that ALL polling companies are releasing their final analysis overnight. That is Galaxy, Newspoll, Morgan and AC Nielsen.

    Anthony Green will be giving special comments on ABC Brisbane radio tomorrow morning with Madonna at around 8.30 covering 3 of those companies the big three’s results (ex Morgan – poor bastards – here’s hoping they get close on the result this year)

    Galaxy and ACN have done big polls apparently, and also single seat polling. There will also be releases from Westpoll and EMRS on several state polls.

    That should satiate any poll hungry people I think.

  39. 189
    alpal
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Grattan/Oakes/Bongornio are experienced operators – who actually have a brain. They’ve seen it all in 30 to 40 years in Canberra. The Kelly story would have offended them. They see politics as a tough game – but they also know what is acceptable in politics and what is not. Oakes on “Today” will be the same Oakes on the 6pm news – probably the second story, after Bernie Banton. It will be very very pointed.

  40. 190
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    There is nothing wrong with Julie Bishop.

    She’s at least got more brains than Gillard, sure she goes to schools when not invited but she gets there on time.

    Julie could be the Thatcher we need should we lose and for the middle aged she aint half bad to look at ;) enjoy John Hunt lol!

  41. 191
    Grooski
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Galaxy results are apparently showing the election as “too close to call”

  42. 192
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Stiflers Mum for PM (the Libs Adelaide candidate)

  43. 193
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Grooski can you post the site where you got that from please

  44. 194
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Socrates

    I agree with you it will be a disaster if we lose. But that’s politics for you.

    Remember, ‘Serenity Now, Insanity Later’

  45. 195
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Glen you conveniently changed the subject

  46. 196
    George
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    “Julie could be the Thatcher we need should we lose …” Oh FFS!

  47. 197
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    188 Grooski The full effect of the Lindsay issue may not show up in these polls.

  48. 198
    Lose the election please
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    so 52/48 for Galaxy?

  49. 199
    Rob
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Glen sagte

    Zumindest haben wir den Bürgermeister von Brisbane, wenn wir verlieren.

    Ja, aber er ist nur im Tunnel!

  50. 200
    Posted Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Galaxy to show 50/50

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