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Morgan: 54.5-45.5

Roy Morgan has released a phone survey of 1670 voters including 1025 in hand-picked Coalition marginals. It shows Labor with an overall lead of 54.5-45.5 on two-party preferred, or 46.5 per cent to 40 per cent on the primary vote. The picture is somewhat better for the Coalition in the marginals, where the swing to Labor is 5.2 per cent compared with 7.2 per cent overall. Morgan aren’t done yet: the accompanying release tells us “the final Morgan Poll will be conducted tonight and released on election morning”.

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  1. 801
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I think that’s the funniest thing Tabitha has ever said :)

  2. 802
    Michael
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    O’Shaughnessy’s comments about the swings not being even might explain the divergence in the polls so far

  3. 803
    Rates Analyst
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    This is a cracker:

    “How to give out HTVs”

    I’ll follow their advice tomorrow!

  4. 804
    Lose the election please
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Paul K, he wasn’t asking me to censor myself but to post less often. Which I can do.

    Labor to win Mallee

  5. 805
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    http://pulse.ninemsn.com.au/forecast/

    Now says Labor are going to win 24 with 11 too close to call.

    Earlier this week it said Labor was going to win 21.

    Early last week it said Labor was going to win 19.

  6. 806
    Qld Ken
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Brissy Rod, i’ll buy your dad a beer for his first real vote.

  7. 807
    Paul K
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Tabitha,

    On Monday we’re sending the Union Bosses over to “talk” with you about your “re-education” course.

  8. 808
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn, unless they explain their methodology all I can say about passion pulse is its too volatile. Every time I look at it, the swings dip and sway like the bars on an equaliser.

  9. 809
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    790
    Tabitha Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    “Now only at the end does that pathetic Old Fool realise he forgot to take his viagra medication.”

    - Crosby/Textor 23rd November 2007

  10. 810
    Ralph
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    I’m nervous about this “cliffhanger” newspoll due to be published in the Australian this afternoon. I don’t want to be pessimistic, but I think we’ve been down this path before. I only hope it ain’t so.

  11. 811
    Nostradamus
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Howard has not exactly had a good week in his campaign and yet, on election eve, he is within millimetres of victory. Perhaps Krudd was doomed from the start.

  12. 812
    Michael
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Ralp – we have never been down this path before. It’s teh day before the election.

  13. 813
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Oh dear have I cursed another Labor victory?

  14. 814
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Howard has not exactly had a good week in his campaign and yet, on election eve, he is within millimetres of victory. Perhaps Krudd was doomed from the start.

    You consider half a million votes millimetres?

  15. 815
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Oh dear have I cursed another Labor victory?

    No.

  16. 816
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    John Hunt, you miss the joke. Its a quote from Star Wars. The emperor says that not long before he ends up getting vaporised.

  17. 817
    Jordan
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Gezza – an Adelaide Uni poll of 800 people in Boothby suggest a 50-50 deadlock.

  18. 818
    Rates Analyst
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Mr Nostradaime

    Only if you believe Galaxy.

    If you believe ACN he’s around 28 hours from oblivion.

  19. 819
    BrissyRod
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    2010 everyone, 2010………. is but 1095 days away……………

  20. 820
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    jc sez:

    a fairly creative field (architecture)

    How many different ways can you say “Will you have fries with that?”

  21. 821
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Yep, Ralph, never been down this path before.

    Last election Newspoll on the eve of the election had a 50/50 result didn’t they? And look how that turned out.

  22. 822
    neophyte
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Just heard Howard on Kellygate again on Radio National; what’s striking is the lack of moral outrage. No moral bone in his body.

  23. 823
    Luke
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    If Labor does drop in tomorrow’s Newspoll, well that would make perfect sense wouldn’t it?.
    I mean it has after all been a shockingly bad week for Labor…oh wait that would be the Coalition. So please tell me again why should Labor drop in the polls? Are they only polling morons now?.

  24. 824
    ricky
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Oh, by the way, who remembers 2004?

    Where Newspoll also called a cliffhanger?

    50/50?

  25. 825
    BrissyRod
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    816 – ‘Are they only polling morons now?’

    LOL

  26. 826
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/a/australia/polls.shtml

    Looks fine to me folks.

  27. 827
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    no mad cow you missed the joke – howard can’t get it up…in time for the poll

  28. 828
    Andrew
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    I think the accusations of Insiders being a Pro-Howard program say more about the bias of the posters on this site!

    Paul Kelly notwithstanding, Barrie seems to be pretty even handed, and the three journos are more often all centre/left than centre/right. I’ve seen plenty of eps with Marr, Megalogenis and Toohey, or Middleton, Price and Milne. How often are Bolt and Akerman on at the same time? Bolt and Henderson? All three? Ever happened?

    Shame they don’t repeat it on ABC2 on Sunday nights anymore. I hate having to get up early…

    (Andrew – $200.00 on the Coalition to hang on)

  29. 829
    Michael
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    did newspoll reallly have 50/50 last election eve?

  30. 830
    Ian
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Gezza @ 793

    Were you able to listen all morning to mattndave from Boothby ? Can you confirm a poll by Flinders Uni (?) that has Boothby “too close to call” ?

    Go Nicole !

  31. 831
    Ralph
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    The numbers have all been pointing in the right direction thus far. But, the talk of the cliffhanger newspoll has spooked me a little. It’s hard to believe that people are rushing back to the rodent at the last minute. However, I’m confident the people will make the right decision tomorrow. Undoubtedly, the general feeling in the community is that Howard’s been a fairly decent PM, but he’s had his day and it’s time for a new bloke. I can only hope that people that sentiment with them into the ballot box.

  32. 832
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    So please tell me again why should Labor drop in the polls? Are they only polling morons now?.

    We should all remember that the final Newspoll was released on election day 2004 was out by 2.7% at the last election. That’s not a very good record for final poll accuracy.

  33. 833
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    John Hunt the only drug he needs is HCN.

  34. 834
    KT
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    So please tell me again why should Labor drop in the polls?

    It might be a Coalition-friendly sample. It might be that there’s a huge surge for Howard because they all feel sorry for him. Who knows?

    Polls are not absolute, nor are they perfect. I like to overanalyse polls as much as everybody else, but to obsess and engage in microanalysis over individual poll results is silly.

  35. 835
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Newspoll is so cruel.

    Theyve done it time and time again, try and make the Coalition look better when they most need it.

    I just take comfort in that last time they said 50-50. Gosh I’m gonna have trouble sleeping tonight

  36. 836
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Afternoon bludgers from sunny Broken Hill. Is the GG they delivered to BH the same as the real one or was it a Lindsay-style practical joke? It endorsed Ruddski. WTF is going on?

  37. 837
    Socrates
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Jordan,

    If true (Boothby 50/50), that is great for Labor. apart from being a 5% swing in itself, it represents a 2% improvement since the previous Boothby poll, where up till now the reported swing has been below the average for South Australia. If that carries across Adelaide, Mia Handshin will win Sturt as well. Hurray :)

  38. 838
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/23/2099148.htm

  39. 839
    Jordan
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Funny how 52-48 is “panic stations”. Does anyone ACTUALLY think that Labor will get 55 2PP tomorrow?

  40. 840
    Julie
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    This might be a song to listen to tomorrow night as well :)

    From Elton John – Can You Feel The Love Tonight?

    (Chorus)
    And can you feel the love tonight?
    It is where we are
    It’s enough for this wide-eyed wanderer
    That we got this far
    And can you feel the love tonight
    How it’s laid to rest?
    It’s enough to make kings and vagabonds
    Believe the very best

    Yes, at SunCorp Stadium the wide-eyed wanderers of 11+ years in the ALP wilderness will definitely feel the love tomorrow night and will definitely be believing the very best for the future :) :) :)

    Not much longer to go folks. Don’t let the last opinion polls get you down or worried. Just feel the love tomorrow night :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGDrV_2ehI

  41. 841
    Paul K
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    806
    Edward StJohn Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pm
    Oh dear have I cursed another Labor victory?

    Yes Edward, it’s all about you. The Universe is only interested in what you say and do.

  42. 842
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/tides-turning-pm/2007/11/23/1195753279860.html

    The tide is “coming back” to the coalition strongly enough for it to win tomorrow’s election, Prime Minister John Howard said today.

    Top story online

  43. 843
    Mathew Cole
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    To all those predicting a landslide ALP victory, I issue this reminder: never underestimate the cupidity, timidity, shortsightedness or traditionalism of the electorate as a whole. Also never overestimate its collective intelligence or willingness to see the truth. Despite this extremely damaging week for the Coalition, I’m still predicting Rattus Falsehoodinus to scrape in. The only way that JWH was going to be voted out, after having perfected the application of election bribes (like throwing scraps to the pigs), was if he was caugght in bed with an underage partner.

    Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. – George Bernard Shaw, playwright.

    In case you fail to notice, my opinion of my fellow Australians could use some improvement. But that’s due to experience with them, at the 1996, 1998, 2001 and 2004 elections.

    My prediction stands: Coalition with 78-80 seats.

  44. 844
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    If true (Boothby 50/50), that is great for Labor. apart from being a 5% swing in itself, it represents a 2% improvement since the previous Boothby poll,

    The last Boothby Advertiser Poll was flawed because it distributed preferences 60/40 to Labor (which was the split at last election). I think it will be higher than that tomorrow, perhaps 70 or even 75%.

    If that is the case, Cornes will get over the line on preferences.

  45. 845
    Julie
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Re 832,

    “Jordan Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm
    Funny how 52-48 is “panic stations”. Does anyone ACTUALLY think that Labor will get 55 2PP tomorrow?”

    Yes :)

  46. 846
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    I believe ACN poll over all others Jordan 832 and I am mightily spooked by getting anything less than 100 seats.

  47. 847
    Ian
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Small Boothby poll conducted by Adelaide university:

    http://www.abc.net.au/adelaide/stories/s2099106.htm

  48. 848
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    I just take comfort in that last time they said 50-50. Gosh I’m gonna have trouble sleeping tonight

    LOL. Not as much difficulty as the punter who put $160,000 on Labor last week.

    As confident as I am that Labor will win, with $160,000 on the line I would be freaking out slightly.

  49. 849
    Matthew Sykes
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    The critical thing about the Boothby poll from the Advertiser was it showed the greens at 9%. This is significant, and a potentially huge supply of 2PP for Cornes. If Cornes can get around 36-37% of the primary, she may stand a very good chance. She may even need less if the greens votes pops above 10%.

  50. 850
    Ralph
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    I hope more of this is not happening around the country…

    Was speaking to the admin girl at work at morning tea this morning. She’s mid-40s, not overly blessed with intelligence and I dare say not in tune with politics. Was having a discussion about the election and a few people jumped in with stuff about Johnny packing his bags. But the admin lady says something along the lines of “I think Howard’s done a pretty good job, I just don’t know why we need to change”. I really worry that people out in the suburbs who don’t give a rats about politics (most of them) will just get cold feet at the last minute and go for the ’safety’ option. If there is a chance that Labor won’t get up, that’s it in my opinion.

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