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Morgan: 54.5-45.5

Roy Morgan has released a phone survey of 1670 voters including 1025 in hand-picked Coalition marginals. It shows Labor with an overall lead of 54.5-45.5 on two-party preferred, or 46.5 per cent to 40 per cent on the primary vote. The picture is somewhat better for the Coalition in the marginals, where the swing to Labor is 5.2 per cent compared with 7.2 per cent overall. Morgan aren’t done yet: the accompanying release tells us “the final Morgan Poll will be conducted tonight and released on election morning”.

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  1. 151
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    79 Webroar Liberals had never had polls like that before Malcolm Fraser in 1975. Doesn’t mean it can’t be done does it.

  2. 152
    Andrew
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    worth remembering that half this sample is in Lib marginals, dragging down Labor’s 2PP

  3. 153
    ruawake
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    John Stirton say min 20 seats to Labor.

  4. 154
    Ave it 07
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    One day to go!

    Coalition surging back in the marginals:

    ——————————

    On Saturday tee hee
    It will be Coalition glee!!

    Looking forward to getting up 7am Sat for live results!!

  5. 155
    tdt
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    80
    Bring Back CL’s blog Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 8:54 am
    rumour has it Newspol is 54-46 ALP

    Who says? Or is this just another make a post then leave the blog beat-up a la yesterday?

  6. 156
    ruawake
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Croatia 3 England losers. :-P

  7. 157
    Lose the election please
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    tdt yes, last night there was someone who claimed to know the Newspoll results.
    56/44 Qld, 54/46 NSW, 52/48 Vic, 55/45 SA and 48/52 WA with an overall 54/46.

    I would take it with a grain of salt though.

    We also had another person who leaked early that Galaxy would show ‘too close to call’ state that Newspoll would be 55/45.

  8. 158
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    WHAT!? Martin O’Shaunessy from Newspoll just said that he doesn’t think we will know the election result for about one week.

  9. 159
    Ave it 07
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    153 Australia football LOLOLOLOL

    stick to the Aussie Rules!

  10. 160
    ruawake
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    O’Shannasy says cliffhanger – maybe – perhaps.

  11. 161
    George
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    CEO of Newspoll reckons it will be a cliffhanger – Y-A-W-N

  12. 162
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    He says he is CERTAIN it will be a cliffhanger.

    That’s the biggest fence sit of all time.

  13. 163
    BV
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Martin O from Newspoll spruiking the Australian tomorrow

  14. 164
    RGee
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Ave it 07 – What was the score last time the aussies played england?? 3-1 wasn’t it?

  15. 165
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    That means he’s got 52-48

  16. 166
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Hey Ave it 07 – Take a F#@& off pill

  17. 167
    verbal
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    @ 101 & 102:

    Thanks heaps guys, really really appreciate it!

    Now to figure out which booths the electorate got from Farrer and lost to Gillmore!

    As far as I can tell they got:
    Adelong
    Brungle
    Batlow
    Lacmalac
    Jingellic
    Rosewood
    Tooma
    Talbingo
    Tumbarumba
    Tumut
    Tumut East

    and lost:
    Batehaven
    Batemans Bay
    Long Beach
    Malua Bay
    Mogo
    Nelligen
    Sunshine Bay
    Sutton (Eden-Monaro)
    Tomakin

    if anyone knows for sure, much appreciated!

  18. 168
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    If Newspoll is saying that AC Nielsen is the odd man out?

  19. 169
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    That means he’s got 52-48

    He seemed to imply that the 2pp is higher than that, but that it is closer in marginal seats.

  20. 170
    George
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Aussieguru01, it’s not even 10am yet – don’t let these Lib dorks get to you so early – stay focussed ;-)

  21. 171
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    ESJ,

    The problem is that ACN conducted 2 separate polls (one online and one traditional) with 2000 people sampled in the traditional and 1400 sampled online. Both point to the exact same result…

  22. 172
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    George Its only that retard that gets ’special mention’

  23. 173
    Ave it 07
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    161 – little friendly game – we like to give you developing nations encouragement
    163 – you know you’re worried – you will be crying by Sat night lol

  24. 174
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    130 Ashley Yes, but it backs up the previous poll.

  25. 175
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Labor now favourite in Petrie on Centrebet and Portlandbet. Still behind on Sportingbet…

  26. 176
    Will
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    LTEP: As for deciding between Green or Dems in the Senate, just remember the Dems have a split ticket. Even if you vote below the line, then there should be no issue. If you vote above the line, your initial transfer value might not be 100% but could be 50% (depends on who was eliminated before the transfer). The Greens don’t have a split ticket so the transfer value should be 100%.

    I know other parties do split tickets, but I detest split tickets more than the voting above the line. At least below the line I have my say.

  27. 177
    George
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Ave it 07, why don’t you shove a hot poker up your arse and go f*ck yourself….

    swe damn it, I didn’t follow my own advice Aussieguru01!

  28. 178
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Ave it 07 – your just a ‘cyber fart’, piss off!

  29. 179
    Hemingway
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Growler @ 145

    Thanks for the helpful quote, particularly about the internal polling from both parties. Graham Richardson, who has called the winner of every election for the past 30 years and has seen the Labor Party’s internal polls. Richo stated late Sunday that Labor will win 80 seats, and it’s likely that he would give the conservative minimum figure with a few more still in sight.

    But as someone said earlier, the polls (MSM or internal), Betting markets and Possums’ (and others’) stats analysis don’t matter a whole lot to the hunchpeople.

  30. 180
    Ave it 07
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    174 – lol – Australia a civilised mature country………

    10am there soon. 32 hours to Coalition win – alll you labor will have your handouts stopped lol – get back in the tent on the street

  31. 181
    BV
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Martin O said “we won’t know the result for a week, there will be recounts”, meaning that he thinks a lot of seats will be closely fought. Doesn’t mean that the overall 2PP is close.

  32. 182
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    George…some digression please…William will whack us if we keep up this form…he might be asleep!

  33. 183
    AM
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Ave it 07 don’t you have some flyers to deliver?

  34. 184
    BV
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Ave it 07 – investing your precious time posting about election polling on the other side of the world. LOL.

  35. 185
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    In the world of polling Swing Lowe – someone is going to get hurt!

  36. 186
    Betamax
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Apologies if this has already been covered here, getting harder + harder to roll with the times.

    Jim Middleton said on 702 that tomorrow’s Oz/Newspoll would show some “tightening but Labor still in a position to win”.

    Anyone got any more on this? Do we know the actual figures or do we just guess? It can only be 53-47, can’t it? Or 52.5-48.5? Any less and Libs would have 48 and be theoretically able to win, thus he wouldn’t have said that?

    Or am I reading 2 much into this?

  37. 187
    Ave it 07
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    175 lol missed that – dont forget we british can disolve your government if we dont like it – we’ve done it before

    180 – haha quite funny

  38. 188
    George
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    nah, Ave it 07 loves the tit for tat! now back to listening to cassidy on the radio

  39. 189
    Betamax
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Sorry, I meant to say 52.5/47.5 …

  40. 190
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Betamax,

    Rumour is that it’s going to be 54/46. However, that statement suggests a 53/47 result – 50/50 would be outside the MOE, but it would signify a “tightening”

  41. 191
    Ashley
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Jim Middleton said on 702 that tomorrow’s Oz/Newspoll would show some “tightening but Labor still in a position to win”.

    Anyone got any more on this? Do we know the actual figures or do we just guess? It can only be 53-47, can’t it?

    I agree. Last newspoll was 54-46. Tightening but still in a position to win would suggest 53-47 or at worst 52.5-48.5.

  42. 192
    Misty
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Has to be 53/47 I would have thought. Which will be disappointing if a large amount of the polling was done yesterday, during the Lindsay saga.

  43. 193
    Ashley
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Sorry, I meant to say 52.5/47.5 …

    Ha. I can’t subtract either.

  44. 194
    Ave it 07
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    53/47 to Coalition?

  45. 195
    Betamax
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Thanks SL.

    I wish he’d said where he got the info from — I’m guessing Jim would use reliable sources, even if he is a bit middle-of-the-road he always seems dependable

  46. 196
    Ashley
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    I don’t think Lindsay is going to swing the national vote too much. Might pull a percentage or two in certain seats though.

  47. 197
    Tim
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    So in the Oz’s editorial, it says that the latest Newspolling (which was still going on last night) shows the coalition coming back strongly…

    Anyone concerned?

  48. 198
    dembo
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Lose the election please@128:

    Anything we Democrats can do to sweeten the deal? :)

  49. 199
    rusty
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Galaxy Primaries 42.5 (ALP) to 42.5(Lib)
    Preference Split: 15% -> 9.5(ALP) to 5.5(Lib) ie. 63% toi Lab

    Nielson 48 (ALP) to 40 (Lib)
    Preference Split: 12% -> 9(ALP) to 3(Lib) ie 75% to Lab

    Who is right?

  50. 200
    Charlie
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    169 – please do not use that word. You clearly have no idea just how offensive it can be.

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