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Newspoll: 52-48

Sky News reports tomorrow’s Newspoll at 52-48. The Australian reports a sample size of 2614, but no primary votes. Normally you wouldn’t doubt the result with four polls telling you 52-48, 52-48, 54.5-45.5 and 57-43, but surely there’s some significance to the fact that the two closest polls of the year have come in the day before polling day.

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  1. 1
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    1st

  2. 2
    John of Melbourne
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    You beauty.

    Hopefully it gets closer and closer

  3. 3
    happy chap from Griffith
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    How very Galaxy of them…

  4. 4
    George
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    I’m still predicting 87 seats to Labor at the least. Bring on tomorrow night!

  5. 5
    Michael
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    phew

    it won’t be less than 52 then.

    labor will win

  6. 6
    BV
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Bahahaha. Cliffhanger pffft!!!

  7. 7
    Pathological Logic
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    What an anticlimax.

    Government still pooned.

  8. 8
    brad
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    whats happening on the betting markets?

  9. 9
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Well, 52-48. I’ll take that with MOE, which I guess is about 2-3%? I can’t see the LNP being happy with that.

  10. 10
    I'm calling Warringah for Zochling
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    4 poll average 53.6?

  11. 11
    middle man
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    yawn. i’ll take the less volatile and steady AC Neilsen thank you.

    galaxy and newspoll. what a farce.

  12. 12
    Nostradamus
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Well this is the last Newspoll, and considering that last time round, Newspoll favoured Labor by 2.7 points, it puts Howard in the lead on 2pp, and will romp home to victory.

  13. 13
    sondeo
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Have the primaries been published ?

  14. 14
    rusty
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    This will be as low as it goes – labor will win.

  15. 15
    Ron Brown
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    So 3 Pollsters show a 2% drop to ALP in one week

    IF they are right , then 9 months polling was absolutely useless and MISLEADING

    Absolutely disgusted and sad

  16. 16
    James
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    @brad: looks like a lot of money is being dropped on the LNP this arvo.

  17. 17
    centaur_007
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    80 seats I will be right. Was it Charles that had all the predictions a while ago?

  18. 18
    Kate Ellis for PM
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Still sticking with 89 seat to Labor with a TPP of 54%.

  19. 19
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Denis, never stop being Denis.

  20. 20
    Alex McDonnel
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Newspoll uses the fixed 69/31 ratio for distributing preferences. Labor would probably pick up at least 75% or more of Green preferences plus some others. So it’s probably more like 54/46.

  21. 21
    Paul K
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    I see no reason to change my prediction of a minimum 80 seats to Labor.

  22. 22
    areaman
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Primaries?

  23. 23
    RGee
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22808891-601,00.html

  24. 24
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    cliffhanger yawn – no news here people just moe
    labor to win comfortably

  25. 25
    ricky
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    The simple fact is, the Coalition is out of it.

    The only two possible scenarios are:

    1) Comfortable ALP win

    2) Crushing ALP win.

    Reminder to all: John Howard did NOT campaign today in Leichart, held on a 10% margin, because this one will be tight.

  26. 26
    Maurico
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    So, 4 poll average is the best predictor

    ACN 57 = ALP win
    Galaxy 52 = ALP win
    Morgan 54.5 = ALP win
    Newspoll 52 = ALP win

    Average = 53.87 a swing of over 6% from 2004
    Bring it on!

  27. 27
    Mathew Cole
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Oh smeg.

    This is exactly what JWH needed – a poll which could be spun to give the electorate the feeling that by voting for him, they are backing a winner.

    Smeg. I’m going to have a word with the “analyst” of Newspoll….

  28. 28
    midnothcoast
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    That’s it? Cliffhanger, days of counting, court of disputed returns? I guess they have to sell papers but after the build up this is a serious let down. Average of polls must be about 54 ALP – no change

  29. 29
    Pathological Logic
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Well this is the last Newspoll, and considering that last time round, Newspoll favoured Labor by 2.7 points, it puts Howard in the lead on 2pp, and will romp home to victory.

    What a shame they’ve sorted out their dodgy preference allocation from last time.

  30. 30
    Rob
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Bull Butter

  31. 31
    Lefty E
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Bahahaaa! I cant wait to see your faces tomorrow when Rudd romps it. :)

    So cruel of Newspoll to do this to you. And actually, its 52-48. Nothing new, another poll showing ALP will win.

    I personally think elements of the Oz public ARE dumb enough that Howard will get a 1% kick out of Lindsay gate. Usual grubby trick – but to no avail.

    It wont save your hides Saturday!

  32. 32
    BrissyRod
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Again, tell me, what national poll has the ALP losing this election?

  33. 33
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    The sample size was larger than average – 2614.

    sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!

    52-48

    Howie by 3

  34. 34
    Jim
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    ladies and gentleman we now have the narrowing.

    GAME ON

  35. 35
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    it will be fun to watch some of the pollsters wipe away all that egg

  36. 36
    Swanny for Lilley
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    http://www.iasbet.com has the Coalition blowing out ot $4.50.

    Newspoll are just copying Galaxy so they don’t look stupid by themselves.

    ALP will have 12 seats won by the times the polls close in QLD.

  37. 37
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I think John, you are falling into the same trap we “lefties” are falling into. You’ve been so use to seeing mid to high 50’s for Labor’s TPP that you view 52 as being bad for Labor and 48 being good for the coalition this far out from the election. Hell, that is a loss for your side John.

  38. 38
    NB
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Take some time to remember just why Howard will be voted out tomorrow:

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzO017lcA4

    An rant about what was wrong with the last 11 years set to a pretty catchy tune.

  39. 39
    JC
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    defence chief to make announcement at 4.30

  40. 40
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Shanahan makes me want to puke

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22808891-601,00.html

    “After being written off as a ‘has been’ John Howard’s last week of campaigning will give the Coalition hope of pulling off a miraculous victory tomorrow. “

  41. 41
    RGee
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    They’ve used the 2004 preference flows. Can one of the wiser heads explain if that is or isn’t a problem?

  42. 42
    brad
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    what poll was best in 2004?

  43. 43
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    pamphletgate impact still to come…tomorrow

  44. 44
    Glen
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22808949-12377,00.html

    Rudd shakes hands ‘like a girl’

  45. 45
    Dario
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE MOE

  46. 46
    Martin B
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    With ACN disappearing in one direction and Galaxy and Newspoll heading in the other, Morgan musn’t be able to believe his luck…

  47. 47
    Flash
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    The media narrative tonight and tomorrow morning, unfortunately, will be:

    Howard is making a potentially remarkable comeback in the very last moments of the campaign. Sad, but true, nothwithstanding the true import of the poll, which is not clear yet, given no primary etc.

  48. 48
    Howard Hater
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Nostro: Nielsen has got it pretty much right for the last 3 elections.
    David Briggs must be suddenly doing Newspoll as well.
    Or, they’ve oversampled Western Australia for some strange reason.

  49. 49
    Darn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Ron Brown (15) I told you earlier today that Morgan DOESN”T show a 2% drop in the ALP primary. Their phone poll at the beginning of the campaign was 45% ALP. Now it is 44.5% ALP. Also it’s much bigger face to face poll, which always has a higher ALP primary than its phone polls, is still to come tomorrow. Try to get a grip man.

  50. 50
    Kina
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

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    brad Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pm
    whats happening on the betting markets?

    Well at least now they can gets some bets on the LNP.

    Nice to have two independent pollsters around.

    This poll result is of course not credible except for being moe and, not consistent. You will see 54/46 tomorrow – and Rudd is out there still tring to pick up those 10% seats.

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