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Newspoll: 52-48

Sky News reports tomorrow’s Newspoll at 52-48. The Australian reports a sample size of 2614, but no primary votes. Normally you wouldn’t doubt the result with four polls telling you 52-48, 52-48, 54.5-45.5 and 57-43, but surely there’s some significance to the fact that the two closest polls of the year have come in the day before polling day.

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  1. 1301
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    for those interested here is the state breakdown of swing to alp based on ACN: nsw-8.1 / vic-8.4 / qld 9.9 / sa.nt-10.4 / wa-3.1

  2. 1302
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Whoa Dave, what’s up no ganga tonight at the share house?

  3. 1303
    Hemingway
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Lionel, Many thanks back at you!

  4. 1304
    Steven Kaye
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    A new poll out of WA – about 6000 respondents – has the Government ahead 53-47 2PP.

    Also, both leaders delivered a final pitch to voters on ACA tonight and afterwards the viewing audience SMSed their verdict: the PM winning 76%-24%.

  5. 1305
    Erytnicam
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    #1279- It might just because its getting late, and I’m getting tired, but that letter makes me feel very sad that we might miss out on this man when I believe he is what we need now. God I want to have faith in Australia. I understood why they didn’t vote Latham. I understood the fear of 2001, the desire to give Howard one more chance in ‘98, but tomorrow Australia, you have no excuses left.

  6. 1306
    Mark
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Ah Mr Squiggle, I’m on the Illawarra line, and it’s true two years. I’ve always wanted to ask you how is Miss Jane these days?

  7. 1307
    dave
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    ittle eddie smith – always slow and dumb until he joined the libs – then he became smart

  8. 1308
    Mr Squiggle
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    John Howard is a silly bunt

    where did you find those numbers?

  9. 1309
    Hemingway
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Soc, where are you finding the final morgan?

  10. 1310
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2007/4250/

  11. 1311
    Mr Squiggle
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Mark,

    Ms jane is deply satisfied,

    I upgraded to 2B thinkness recently and haven’t had any complaints since

  12. 1312
    NOT SO MAD MAX
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    1304 Yeah SK you’re right. The SMS figures were ridiculous, even the Ch 9 presenters were laughing at them.

  13. 1313
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    1304

    6000 “respondents”

    does that mean it was an online poll?

  14. 1314
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    Barry @1280, all part of the fun of the wild west :)

  15. 1315
    Erytnicam
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    1310, are we sure this isnt the last morgan result yesterday?

  16. 1316
    red wombat
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    just got home and found all the gear for being “BOOTH CAPTAIN”……JHO YOU ARE GOIIIIINNNNGGG DOOOOWWWWNNN

  17. 1317
    kina
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    SMS poll

  18. 1318
    Rusted on
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Edward SJ 1265
    Nothing personal against Penny Wong or any of the candidates on either side but there aint a lot of naturally gregarious ones? Penny Wong may be bright but that demeanour will kill off any serious hopes of advancement

    News for you, ESJ, bright is good. That’s why Labor has always placed a lot of emphasis on education. Penny Wong could eat you for breakfast.

  19. 1319
    wysiwyg
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Steven Kaye you are a busy little voter! Fortunately you only get one (1) tomorrow.

  20. 1320
    Henry
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Poor rodent on the ACA special tonight was just awful.
    He was cut off mid sentence by Grimshaw and just looked totally bewildered.

    It has been a long time for the old guy – plenty of time for rest from sunday on him.
    Studio audience went big time for ALP.

  21. 1321
    mad cow
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Anyone wanna comment on my senate ticket post at 1097 ?

  22. 1322
    lurker speaks out
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    1311
    The B in 2B refers to “b”lackness in pencils Mr. Squiggle.

  23. 1323
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    Mr Squiggle just read tomorrow’s AGE…

  24. 1324
    Adam
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    1320 – it was hilarious.

  25. 1325
    canberra boy
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    JH is a C – plug that ACN state breakdown into the ABC calculator (with the assumption that both Tassie Coalition seats fall) and you get 97-51-2.

  26. 1326
    Tory Crimes
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    ACA -Very reliable indicator that one- the studio audience had the same figures reversed.

    WISYWYG-Thats what Im saying, Cos was too spineless to, as Joe Mantegna said in Godfather 3, ‘take what will not be given’. In the end his turned out to be all piss and wind. And some people want this man to be the countrys next leader, God help us.

  27. 1327
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Rusted on,

    I am not interested in having an argument and I seem to always attract the crustaceans on this site when I do (and LTEP is now the resident Limpet mine) but to surmise I would say voters would pick a Cornes over a Penny Wong.

  28. 1328
    ice444
    Posted Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    That would still be around a 2% swing to the alp steven kaye. That would mean stirling and hasluck would both swing to the alp :)

  29. 1329
    ViggoP
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    “Who will revenge me of the injuries I have sustained from one turbulent priest?”. Now is the hour. Today is the day.

  30. 1330
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    “1315
    Erytnicam Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pm
    1310, are we sure this isnt the last morgan result yesterday?”

    Can’t be sure, to be honest. I’m becoming dizzy with all this polling. But it’s the latest one on the site and is dated today.

    No I think it’s new, cos it doesn’t seem to be in Antony Green’s calculator

  31. 1331
    dave
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    little eddie smith is a coward !!

  32. 1332
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    steven kaye is a bit slow with figures and swing

  33. 1333
    Henry
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    “long election for the old guy – plenty of time for rest from sunday on for him”

    oops – need an edit/preview facility.

  34. 1334
    kina
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Penny Wong is one of those totally trust worthy pollys you can send out by themselves and not worry what they might say – not like Abbott and co. Some of those Labor women are serious talent.

  35. 1335
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    WELCOME TO MY NIGHTEMARE HOWARD – BBRRRRAAAAAUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!

  36. 1336
    Howard Hater
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    You can’t trust those socialists they hire for Channel 9 audiences LOL
    I think I’ll watch a lot of Nine tomorrow night: Swan vs Kroger could be amusing

  37. 1337
    SeanofPerth
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Wow

    The labor team has really got their game on

    They are even advertising those “I will, I wont” ads on gaydar.com.au, which is major social networking site for those of that particular persuasion

    I dont think ill be seeing a Liberal on there lol

  38. 1338
    wysiwyg
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Speak for yourself ESJ – I prefer voting for intelligent women wearing suits, very fetching indeed! BTW as a mostly silent trawler, I must say I have enjoyed your contributions. You’re also quite fetching in your own way.

  39. 1339
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    It looks to be the 21/22 November Morgan phone poll, i.e. the one that was reported this morning:

    Gary Morgan says:

    “With a day to go, the ALP is set to win the Federal election. The final Morgan Poll will be conducted tonight and released on election morning — see http://www.roymorgan.com for full details.

  40. 1340
    VoterBoy of Over the Water
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    “1331
    dave Says:
    November 24th, 2007 at 12:00 am
    little eddie smith is a coward !!”

    Why do you call him Eddie Smith?

    I thought his real name was Norman StJohn Pole Vaulter, “who for the past three years has been contradicting people”.

    (How’s that for remembering Python sketches from three decades ago!)

    (and of course, he might spell it Poll, rather than Pole)

  41. 1341
    dave
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    # 1327
    Edward StJohn Says:

    “I am not interested in having an argument and I seem to always attract the crustaceans on this site when I do (and LTEP is now the resident Limpet mine) but to surmise I would say voters would pick a Cornes over a Penny Wong.”

    using the dog whistle again ! You really are scum !

  42. 1342
    George
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Edward StJohn Says: “I am not interested in having an argument and I seem to always attract the crustaceans on this site when I do (and LTEP is now the resident Limpet mine) but to surmise I would say voters would pick a Cornes over a Penny Wong.”

    You must have one giant carrot up your arse mate. Your posts are usually of the simplest and most stupid nature, what do you expect. Get a thicker skinner, loser.

  43. 1343
    turfmeister
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    The plunge on the Greens candidate in Mayo continues, backed in from $501 to $201 in the past 24 hours. Amazing what a stupid $5 bet on my behalf can do – an interesting waste of $5 on my behalf.

  44. 1344
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Dave – I dont mind you having a go at me but at least try and be witty in the way you go about it here at our on line community.

    Thank you wysiwyg.

    AG01 – Do you think you will wear a blindfold if it does come to that?

  45. 1345
    Rusted on
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    1327 EST
    And what do you know about voters? Fail sociology 101 for gross oversimplification. Then again, that’s what you’re good at.

  46. 1346
    CL de Footscray
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy @ 1271 – the thing is, it’s just not credible that we get 103 polls that say ALP easy, then we get two in one day from the same large and essentially corrupt organisation that just somehow manage to be identical and to put the libs on the same lap (where they haven’t been since the starter’s gun). And it just happens that they become the new story of the day on election eve, and they all mention the name of the organisation. It just seems like they sandbagged the sampling to make sure they were on the low side, since their main competition is way out the other side.

    It goes against my neo-keynsian heart to say so, but the betting markets make a lot more sense at the minute. I think somewhere around 89 is quite reasonable, and I also think a 2pp in the range of 54 is very likely. Certainly 53.6% (in the right places) would deliver 89.

    You probably don’t have to live through the quotidian shite of the Aus media (and the ABC have been pretty damn bad this time around) so you don’t see the nonsense they spout as though it were the word of God. That may give you better perspective! Anyway, despite being slightly sick in the stomach (just as i was on Grand Final eve) I feel that victory is within our grasp! We just have to live through the next 24 hours …

  47. 1347
    dave
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    VoterBoy of Over the Water

    Thank you kind sir :)

    Always happy to meet a gentleman :)

  48. 1348
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Settle petals, George, Rusted on etc etc

  49. 1349
    Socrates
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Regarding the WA poll and SMS and website polls in general, I’m not a pseph but IMO they are rubbish, because there is no atempt to ensure that they are have random and representative sample. The worst of them don’t even exclude people multiple voting. You see a lot of the internet polls on the SMH website running 70/30 in favour of a Labor position, but they means nothing either.

  50. 1350
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    I don’t Know ESJ……do they work?

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