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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102214</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closing this thread, so please take it over &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/767&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102213</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to bed.   Brain still addled.  

Thank you William for this superlative site.

&#039;my fellow Queenslanders&#039; delivered a coup de grace to the government.   Remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to bed.   Brain still addled.  </p>
<p>Thank you William for this superlative site.</p>
<p>&#8216;my fellow Queenslanders&#8217; delivered a coup de grace to the government.   Remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil Fawlty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102212</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil Fawlty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socrates:
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/clarkedawe.htm</description>
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		<title>By: Kirribilli Removals</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102211</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirribilli Removals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G&#039;day VB, looks like your mate was right then? Alan Ramsey in yesterday&#039;s SMH, told of the 300 bins under the Ministerial offices in Canberra! 

Did you hear the collective sigh of relief that swelled across this big wide land last night? 

And then the cheer for the newly chosen son?

It was indeed like Whitlam&#039;s election, although I&#039;m wondering how long it will be before there is talk of the new coalition: Labor and Green, because it could not have happened otherwise.

By the way, thanks for all your reportage from the Lib bunker, it made great reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day VB, looks like your mate was right then? Alan Ramsey in yesterday&#8217;s SMH, told of the 300 bins under the Ministerial offices in Canberra! </p>
<p>Did you hear the collective sigh of relief that swelled across this big wide land last night? </p>
<p>And then the cheer for the newly chosen son?</p>
<p>It was indeed like Whitlam&#8217;s election, although I&#8217;m wondering how long it will be before there is talk of the new coalition: Labor and Green, because it could not have happened otherwise.</p>
<p>By the way, thanks for all your reportage from the Lib bunker, it made great reading.</p>
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		<title>By: John Howard Is A Coward</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102210</link>
		<dc:creator>John Howard Is A Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie 977 I have never seen Costello more upbeat. He must really hate the rodent and he celebrated with Maxine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie 977 I have never seen Costello more upbeat. He must really hate the rodent and he celebrated with Maxine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joffaboy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102209</link>
		<dc:creator>Joffaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to apologise for my rather intemperate and vindictive post at 1.21am this morning (#787). I rather think it was the copious amounts of Scotch and half dozen beers I had consumed.

I dont believe the Unions are coming back, and I haven&#039;t been a Unionist for decades (although I do work for a membership organisation with 115,000 members, where my co-workers dont find it very funny when I DO refer to us as a Union ;)). Prime Minister Rudd (oh that sounds good), will keep his promise to work with Australians of all persuasion ad the Unions are only a small part of the overall picture.

One thing I will not apologise for is my attack on the insidious, hatefilled, ideological attack on Australians through the Tories unauthorised and unheralded Workchoices crime. This legistlation, this vindictive, arrogant, extremist legistlation attacked not only current and future generations, but the memory of working Australians who fought and suffered for our basic working conditions.

Bob Hawke is deadset correct that every man and woman in the workforce owes the Union movement a debt for Annual Leave, Sick Leave, LSL, a five day working week, redundancy pay, and other. The basic rights of a decent country that respects and honours its citizens. These right wing extremists and ideologues wanted to strip us of our basic rights and our history.

Well Australians have spoken. Most Australians dont &quot;hate&quot; Unions like Jackie Kelly&#039;s stupid husband. Australians see a Bernie Banton and what the Union movement and Bill Shorten did for him and his cause. That is decency, and that is right.

A couple of thank you&#039;s.

1) Mark Latham.- Just over three years ago I sat watching Howard making his customary gloating victory speech after Latham had gone off the rails. I was mortified. The Labor party was going to be out of power for at least 6 years. What was worse was that the Tories had control of the senate. An unmittigated disaster.
Well hows that for irony. Through Mark Latham and his performance we got the conditions where the arrogant, born to rule, hubris laden government could finally drop their sheeps clothing and inflict on Australian working men and woman the hated Workchoices.

2) John Howard - Mr Howard, you have always been at the forefront of the NSW right uglies. You hounded the wets out of your party in the late 80&#039;s and early 90&#039;s, you attacked the weak in our society, you dog whistled and appealed to the basest of the electorates fears and prejudices and used these prejudices to wedge and divide the nation, you made our country bigoted, xenophobic, insular, and inward looking. And you did all this with the smug reassurance of a man who thinks he is so clever that the people will be fooled forever.
You allowed hubris and your insane extremist right wing views to allow you to believe that you had a mandate to attack the very people that elected you in the first place, the so called &quot;Howard Battlers&quot;. How a politician could be so arrogant to believe that they could get away with this is astounding.

Well Mr Howard your enduring legacy will not be the destructiion of the labour movement. Your legacy will be swept away by the new Labor Govt. Your legacy is now your epithaph.
You will have no victory lap, you will not be known in history as Menzies lite, you will be remembered for plunging our country into fear and for that crime being thrown out of not just office, but parliment alltogether.

I will not thank K-Rudd, Julia Gillard or my local member Nicola Roxon. Your work is in front of you. Time to walk the walk.

A final thank you to William Bowe for this tremendous site, and to all the other bludgers (especially the Keating lovers :)) who has made me feel I am in a room full of fellow true believers.

The sun is up - its a new dawn, a new day, and Australia is once again back on an even keel.

End of rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to apologise for my rather intemperate and vindictive post at 1.21am this morning (#787). I rather think it was the copious amounts of Scotch and half dozen beers I had consumed.</p>
<p>I dont believe the Unions are coming back, and I haven&#8217;t been a Unionist for decades (although I do work for a membership organisation with 115,000 members, where my co-workers dont find it very funny when I DO refer to us as a Union <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). Prime Minister Rudd (oh that sounds good), will keep his promise to work with Australians of all persuasion ad the Unions are only a small part of the overall picture.</p>
<p>One thing I will not apologise for is my attack on the insidious, hatefilled, ideological attack on Australians through the Tories unauthorised and unheralded Workchoices crime. This legistlation, this vindictive, arrogant, extremist legistlation attacked not only current and future generations, but the memory of working Australians who fought and suffered for our basic working conditions.</p>
<p>Bob Hawke is deadset correct that every man and woman in the workforce owes the Union movement a debt for Annual Leave, Sick Leave, LSL, a five day working week, redundancy pay, and other. The basic rights of a decent country that respects and honours its citizens. These right wing extremists and ideologues wanted to strip us of our basic rights and our history.</p>
<p>Well Australians have spoken. Most Australians dont &#8220;hate&#8221; Unions like Jackie Kelly&#8217;s stupid husband. Australians see a Bernie Banton and what the Union movement and Bill Shorten did for him and his cause. That is decency, and that is right.</p>
<p>A couple of thank you&#8217;s.</p>
<p>1) Mark Latham.- Just over three years ago I sat watching Howard making his customary gloating victory speech after Latham had gone off the rails. I was mortified. The Labor party was going to be out of power for at least 6 years. What was worse was that the Tories had control of the senate. An unmittigated disaster.<br />
Well hows that for irony. Through Mark Latham and his performance we got the conditions where the arrogant, born to rule, hubris laden government could finally drop their sheeps clothing and inflict on Australian working men and woman the hated Workchoices.</p>
<p>2) John Howard &#8211; Mr Howard, you have always been at the forefront of the NSW right uglies. You hounded the wets out of your party in the late 80&#8217;s and early 90&#8217;s, you attacked the weak in our society, you dog whistled and appealed to the basest of the electorates fears and prejudices and used these prejudices to wedge and divide the nation, you made our country bigoted, xenophobic, insular, and inward looking. And you did all this with the smug reassurance of a man who thinks he is so clever that the people will be fooled forever.<br />
You allowed hubris and your insane extremist right wing views to allow you to believe that you had a mandate to attack the very people that elected you in the first place, the so called &#8220;Howard Battlers&#8221;. How a politician could be so arrogant to believe that they could get away with this is astounding.</p>
<p>Well Mr Howard your enduring legacy will not be the destructiion of the labour movement. Your legacy will be swept away by the new Labor Govt. Your legacy is now your epithaph.<br />
You will have no victory lap, you will not be known in history as Menzies lite, you will be remembered for plunging our country into fear and for that crime being thrown out of not just office, but parliment alltogether.</p>
<p>I will not thank K-Rudd, Julia Gillard or my local member Nicola Roxon. Your work is in front of you. Time to walk the walk.</p>
<p>A final thank you to William Bowe for this tremendous site, and to all the other bludgers (especially the Keating lovers <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) who has made me feel I am in a room full of fellow true believers.</p>
<p>The sun is up &#8211; its a new dawn, a new day, and Australia is once again back on an even keel.</p>
<p>End of rant</p>
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		<title>By: Socrates</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102208</link>
		<dc:creator>Socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have a link to a video of Clarke and Dawe on Thursday? I missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have a link to a video of Clarke and Dawe on Thursday? I missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil Fawlty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102207</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil Fawlty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>971, you obviously saw Clarke and Dawe on Thursday, had to be one of their best yet did it not?
Time to also record my sincere appreciation to William Bowe, Possum, Simon and Anthony for all the enjoyment and erudition they have given, but esp William.
I forgot to mention the bookies, I will also appreciate their contribution to my chancellor of the exchequer.
Very impressed by Mal Brough concession last night, he could not have expected that result, but behaved like a man. I am still blown away by all the crazy swings in Qld, whoda thunk it. On a sad note we did not get rid of the piece of useless excess baggage here in McPherson, mind you we needed 14%, a big ask. She can wait till next time, it will be good to see her vacuous face on the opposition benches anyway. 
And now the fun begins, Costello, Turnbull, Bishop (now there is another vacuous piece of work), Admiral Nelson, omg, such a bewildering array to choose from. Meanwhile Kev and Julia now can get on with the job for which they are both so qualified, OH THE JOY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>971, you obviously saw Clarke and Dawe on Thursday, had to be one of their best yet did it not?<br />
Time to also record my sincere appreciation to William Bowe, Possum, Simon and Anthony for all the enjoyment and erudition they have given, but esp William.<br />
I forgot to mention the bookies, I will also appreciate their contribution to my chancellor of the exchequer.<br />
Very impressed by Mal Brough concession last night, he could not have expected that result, but behaved like a man. I am still blown away by all the crazy swings in Qld, whoda thunk it. On a sad note we did not get rid of the piece of useless excess baggage here in McPherson, mind you we needed 14%, a big ask. She can wait till next time, it will be good to see her vacuous face on the opposition benches anyway.<br />
And now the fun begins, Costello, Turnbull, Bishop (now there is another vacuous piece of work), Admiral Nelson, omg, such a bewildering array to choose from. Meanwhile Kev and Julia now can get on with the job for which they are both so qualified, OH THE JOY.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Costello looked like a new man reborn last night.  Just saw a clip on Sky of part of what he had to say last night and he looked like a different person.  If that is a reflection of how much Howard has been his albatross over all these years, Costello is privately probably glad he is gone.  Don&#039;t know if Costello will stay around BUT he did promise during the campaign that he would.  Does Costello keep his promises?  We&#039;ll see ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Costello looked like a new man reborn last night.  Just saw a clip on Sky of part of what he had to say last night and he looked like a different person.  If that is a reflection of how much Howard has been his albatross over all these years, Costello is privately probably glad he is gone.  Don&#8217;t know if Costello will stay around BUT he did promise during the campaign that he would.  Does Costello keep his promises?  We&#8217;ll see &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirribilli Removals</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2007/11/24/federal-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-102205</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirribilli Removals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onya Australia, you&#039;ve done us proud!

What a night, what a glorious moment to savour, to see that trash taken out and the broom put right through what had become such a dirty and disorganised rabble.

And to all those on this blog, many thanks, you&#039;ve kept this little brown duck well and truly sane and brilliantly entertained. Your collective wit and good spirits is something to behold.

Now, the truck&#039;s warmed up, so off to pick up one dead Rodent and Mrs Rodent, and then cart them off the public stage, where they have well and truly outstayed their welcome.

Onya Kevin Rudd, and keep the faith of all of us who put you there, keep it safe in the years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onya Australia, you&#8217;ve done us proud!</p>
<p>What a night, what a glorious moment to savour, to see that trash taken out and the broom put right through what had become such a dirty and disorganised rabble.</p>
<p>And to all those on this blog, many thanks, you&#8217;ve kept this little brown duck well and truly sane and brilliantly entertained. Your collective wit and good spirits is something to behold.</p>
<p>Now, the truck&#8217;s warmed up, so off to pick up one dead Rodent and Mrs Rodent, and then cart them off the public stage, where they have well and truly outstayed their welcome.</p>
<p>Onya Kevin Rudd, and keep the faith of all of us who put you there, keep it safe in the years to come.</p>
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