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		<title>By: BMWofVictoria</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-2/#comment-120015</link>
		<dc:creator>BMWofVictoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once I put together a pretend seat which may be acceptable in terms of population I wonder who would win the seat.

All of Kew &amp; Hawthorn (East of Burke Rd), All of the City of Yarra south of the Eastern Freeway, all of Stonnington plus Southbank and the Domain part of South Yarra
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I&#039;ve found my paper with the stats written out and i&#039;ve mistakenly included Southbank and the Collingwood areas for they would put it over quoter.

I also wouldn&#039;t mind seeing all of Port and South Melbourne placed in the seat of Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once I put together a pretend seat which may be acceptable in terms of population I wonder who would win the seat.</p>
<p>All of Kew &amp; Hawthorn (East of Burke Rd), All of the City of Yarra south of the Eastern Freeway, all of Stonnington plus Southbank and the Domain part of South Yarra<br />
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<p>I&#8217;ve found my paper with the stats written out and i&#8217;ve mistakenly included Southbank and the Collingwood areas for they would put it over quoter.</p>
<p>I also wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing all of Port and South Melbourne placed in the seat of Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: BMWofVictoria</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119997</link>
		<dc:creator>BMWofVictoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way of having all of the City of Melbourne in the one seat would be to place the Brunswick booths into Wills.

I&#039;m inclined to think Melbourne Ports should move back towards the city via Prahran and South Yarra while Caulfield move into a new Higgins or into a seat running though the remainder of the City of Glen Irea.

I also feel Hawthorn and Kew have more in common with Richmond, South Yarra and Malvern than Balwyn, ignoring the Local Government Boundary

I don&#039;t expect this to happen but I feel Coburg and Brunswick if possible should be grouped with Essendon.

Other possible redistributions might see Dunkley pushed further south into Mt Martha, this would follow the patten of the past two previous redistribution&#039;s, but would have the effect of making the seat nearly unwinnable for the ALP.

Once I put together a pretend seat which may be acceptable in terms of population I wonder who would win the seat.

All of Kew &amp; Hawthorn (East of Burke Rd), All of the City of Yarra south of the Eastern Freeway, all of Stonnington plus Southbank and the Domain part of South Yarra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way of having all of the City of Melbourne in the one seat would be to place the Brunswick booths into Wills.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m inclined to think Melbourne Ports should move back towards the city via Prahran and South Yarra while Caulfield move into a new Higgins or into a seat running though the remainder of the City of Glen Irea.</p>
<p>I also feel Hawthorn and Kew have more in common with Richmond, South Yarra and Malvern than Balwyn, ignoring the Local Government Boundary</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect this to happen but I feel Coburg and Brunswick if possible should be grouped with Essendon.</p>
<p>Other possible redistributions might see Dunkley pushed further south into Mt Martha, this would follow the patten of the past two previous redistribution&#8217;s, but would have the effect of making the seat nearly unwinnable for the ALP.</p>
<p>Once I put together a pretend seat which may be acceptable in terms of population I wonder who would win the seat.</p>
<p>All of Kew &amp; Hawthorn (East of Burke Rd), All of the City of Yarra south of the Eastern Freeway, all of Stonnington plus Southbank and the Domain part of South Yarra</p>
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		<title>By: Blackburnpseph</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119931</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackburnpseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on Adam&#039;s info, Yarra did include Hawthorn. Richmond was in Melbourne Ports from 1968 until 1984.

The City of Melbourne extends south of the Yarra and it could definitely be argued that South Bank has community of interest with the CBD. But Melbourne itself is overenrolled.

If somebody could tell me how I can insert a graph into this text box, I have formulated one which shows the relative deviation from the mean of Victorian seats over the last 4 years. I found it quite enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on Adam&#8217;s info, Yarra did include Hawthorn. Richmond was in Melbourne Ports from 1968 until 1984.</p>
<p>The City of Melbourne extends south of the Yarra and it could definitely be argued that South Bank has community of interest with the CBD. But Melbourne itself is overenrolled.</p>
<p>If somebody could tell me how I can insert a graph into this text box, I have formulated one which shows the relative deviation from the mean of Victorian seats over the last 4 years. I found it quite enlightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Robinson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119896</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yarra included Hawthorn up until its abolition I think. Will Melbourne ever be pushed across the Yarra into Southbank?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yarra included Hawthorn up until its abolition I think. Will Melbourne ever be pushed across the Yarra into Southbank?</p>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119497</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#46

I agree.  The forecasts for Lyne are for rapid population growth.  Having just visited the Hastings/ Port Macquarie LGA, I&#039;m not surprised.</description>
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<p>I agree.  The forecasts for Lyne are for rapid population growth.  Having just visited the Hastings/ Port Macquarie LGA, I&#8217;m not surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackburnpseph</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119489</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackburnpseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TW

Going on current enrolment figures Lyne may appear to be underenrolled. However NSW has only just had a redistribution so this would reflect that this area is projected to grow quickly - and that area of the north coast is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TW</p>
<p>Going on current enrolment figures Lyne may appear to be underenrolled. However NSW has only just had a redistribution so this would reflect that this area is projected to grow quickly &#8211; and that area of the north coast is.</p>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119485</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40

Yep, the ACT is vastly underrepresented.  The seat of Canberra has about the same no. of voters as the entire NT.

In NSW, the seat of Lyne is underpopulated.  The ALP could &#039;lean on&#039; the AEC to abolish Lyne, rather than one of its own seats in metro Sydney.  I&#039;m only being half-serious here - this particular re-distribution would cause all sorts of knock-on problems for the neighbouring seats, especially along the coast.  Also, all sorts of urban development is going on inside Lyne, so it may catch up in terms of population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40</p>
<p>Yep, the ACT is vastly underrepresented.  The seat of Canberra has about the same no. of voters as the entire NT.</p>
<p>In NSW, the seat of Lyne is underpopulated.  The ALP could &#8216;lean on&#8217; the AEC to abolish Lyne, rather than one of its own seats in metro Sydney.  I&#8217;m only being half-serious here &#8211; this particular re-distribution would cause all sorts of knock-on problems for the neighbouring seats, especially along the coast.  Also, all sorts of urban development is going on inside Lyne, so it may catch up in terms of population.</p>
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		<title>By: BMWofVictoria</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119444</link>
		<dc:creator>BMWofVictoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbourne Ports, Lalor, Gorton, Holt, McEwen are oversized

Kooyong, Chisholm, Deakin, Hotham are unpopulated.

Blackburnpseph writes why not cross the Yarra.

This has been done several times in the past

Diamond Valley: Use to include areas around Ivanhoe and Bulleen
Melbourne Ports: Once ran from Port Melbourne/South Melbourne across the bay though Williamstown
Yarra: changed a few times covering Richmond and Hawthorn and at one point I believe had a small part of Toorak yet Jim Caines was never threatened</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbourne Ports, Lalor, Gorton, Holt, McEwen are oversized</p>
<p>Kooyong, Chisholm, Deakin, Hotham are unpopulated.</p>
<p>Blackburnpseph writes why not cross the Yarra.</p>
<p>This has been done several times in the past</p>
<p>Diamond Valley: Use to include areas around Ivanhoe and Bulleen<br />
Melbourne Ports: Once ran from Port Melbourne/South Melbourne across the bay though Williamstown<br />
Yarra: changed a few times covering Richmond and Hawthorn and at one point I believe had a small part of Toorak yet Jim Caines was never threatened</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119441</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biggest problem in Kalgoorlie was the candidate. Ideally needed a candidate from Kalgoorlie-Boulder or one of its satellite towns, preferably with popular local connections. Not someone from Newman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biggest problem in Kalgoorlie was the candidate. Ideally needed a candidate from Kalgoorlie-Boulder or one of its satellite towns, preferably with popular local connections. Not someone from Newman.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rennie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/01/15/the-luck-of-the-draw/comment-page-1/#comment-119396</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Rio Tinto get their way the population of Kalgoorlie will decline even more with remote (i.e. Perth based) workers. Will save a lot on airfares as well, not to mention carbon footprints. Seems that all the pro AWA miners live in Perth if the election results in WA mean anything. Told you we could have won Kalgoorlie. A failure of imagination amongst other factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Rio Tinto get their way the population of Kalgoorlie will decline even more with remote (i.e. Perth based) workers. Will save a lot on airfares as well, not to mention carbon footprints. Seems that all the pro AWA miners live in Perth if the election results in WA mean anything. Told you we could have won Kalgoorlie. A failure of imagination amongst other factors.</p>
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