Morgan has simultaneously released results of face-to-face polling conducted over the previous two weekends, and a phone poll conducted on Wednesday and Thursday. The former has Labor leading 49 per cent to 36 per cent on the primary vote and 59-41 on two-party preferred, compared with 61.5-38.5 at the previous such poll a fortnight earlier; the latter has Labor’s leads at 50 per cent to 34.5 per cent and 60-40, compared with 63-37 last week. In other news, political parties’ financial disclosure returns for 2006/07 have been published by the Australian Electoral Commission: Steven Mayne sifts through the evidence at Crikey (subscriber only).
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As a matter of interest, Gusface, when was Bushfire Bill’s piece posted and under what thread, do you know?
I ask in the interests of William’s lost archival week. Which may have occurred when you were in the gulag and unable to post.
Maybe you have everything?
CW
06/03/07 on ozpolitics 56/44 newspoll thread comment by BB responding to various plots imagined by glen etc
no not every comment -only the pearlers (though my h/d was wiped ) my kids clunker (runs 95 BION) had quite a few saved pages/posts/emails
If we then look at the booth results there were many swings of 15-20% in workers areas in the suburbs and in industrial rural towns, but in the middle/upper class booths there was 0-5%. Indded in the classic doctors wives booth of Hunters Hill there was a small swing to the Libs.
The figures tell me that that the union campaign was very effective in returning the Howard battlers to the ALP. The Libs campaign was very effective at scaring back the shopkeepers and the ALP campaign sucked yet again.
Some interesting points. I agree, the ALP campaign wasn’t spectacular, it was simply a matter of the Coalition being worse.
The union campaign in Melbourne was largely targeted toward middle-class Deakin, which just got over the line. (Interestingly, in nearby Box Hill, almost every Asian store, bar one or two Coalition restaurants, had ALP posters up). On the other hand, the unions didn’t turn up in the parts of Melbourne that are genuinely poor (i.e. Broadmeadows, Sunshine, Dandenong, Lalor) yet these places voted ALP in an absolutely massive way.
Also, up in the NT, the Coalition was lucky to break into double figures in some booths. It says something about the ‘intervention’, in my opinion.
”Didn’t matter a jot how out of touch the Howard government had become nor how incompetent the Coalition’s election campaign turned out (except for all the bribes for Howard’s solidly loyal base such as the private schools), Labor still couldn’t even crack 53%.”
Maybe this is the result of the Cold war? So many Labor voters started voting Liberal/National/DLP after 1954, and their sons and grandsons continue to do the same now?
So, there was a narrowing, and poor hopeless Labor couldn’t crack 53%.
In fact, the Coalition didn’t really lose, they just came second …
Gusface, thank so for finding that
Bushfire, that was brillant,have a cookie
Professor Higgins @ 46,
Go to Youtube, type in My Fair Lady and scroll down till you find it.
Cheers
ahh-
memories of those golden pre-election days. Except Howard was still pm.
Does anyone knopw how Glen(s) repsonded to BB’s brilliant piece?
Quietly I would have guessed.
From memory, he ignored it.
Glen’s moved on since then. He donated his pieces of paper, his Spiderman coloring-in book and his plastic scissors to Don D’Cruz at IPA, who has since made good use of them.
“MASTER PLAN—–Threaten backing anti-W/Choices legisltn/ Business crawls bk to Lbrl/Prty / begs frgvness./Nelson hero/PM 2011./JST KIDDING!!!! [He! He!]/Alwys knew he cld do it./Mnwhle trap KRUDD in own web by making nice to Union thugs/ Cause CHAOS in ecomony [chk. spl???]/”IN CONFUSION IS PROFIT”/Ha! Ha! Maybe can strt wear ear-ring again???? No… too much like Lbrl/Prty election ad… msn’t scare horses/little chldrn /ladies in Wahroonga… “
Yes Bushfire, I recall that piece too, classic, had me in stitches at the time. Have you thought about making it into a tv series
But somehow you have gotta weave his first love Julie Bishop into the plot, dominatrix in black leather perhaps!
Kevinism charms China?
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23146978-601,00.html
BB-
are you suggesting that (gulp) The Glen’s could be Nelson???????
Basil-
eeeyew ,as my 8 yr old would say.
its my fault Jen why Glen is not around much
A few nights ago He & I had a spirited debate about the Libs current leadership
and proceeded to denigrate Juli Bishop’s leadership skills vs Julia
at the time I was oblivious to Glen’s love for Julie Bishop
Glen is hurt his love star was criticised & I’m now very remorseful
Ron, don’t beat yourself up too much about it.
Glen’s having a hard time at present, and it’s made him a tad over sensitive.
(BTW, where did this fascinating exchange take place? I seem to have missed it).
Ron.
You should never mock such tender and true love. Shame on you. I myself have a similar but as yat unrequited passion for George Clooney.
thx Zoom , but my conscience over the Glen & Julie affair is bothering
Oh look. it’s Horatio Hornet with his telescope to his bad eye as the monstrous history of black Australia looms up close to him. Can he see it? Apparently not very well, even if Malcolm can.
In his inimitable style, and quoting slabs of that ‘gin rooter’ Xavier Herbert, Ramsay lashes Nelson to the mast and sails him through the straits of black and white histoy with the moral siren’s wailing:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/weasel-words-wont-hide-monstrous-shame/2008/02/01/1201801034773.html
…and Horatio still can’t seem to see it.
Lashed to his pole, (let’s call it the “White Armband” pole, so greatly championed by his moral midget predecessor) Horatio Hornet will have plenty of time to think about the other polls, and wonder why he’s still stuck at the bottom them.
But not for long. He’s headed for the rocks and the second in command will have no compunction in casting Admiral Hornet to the fishes.
but the crew ca not find ‘Turn on the Bull’ because he’s painted himself ‘black’
to win the indigenous vote
Jen, George Clooney in black leather, naaah.
Jen , if George knew such a fine’green’ damsel as thou was on this site , he would forsake McCain in a flash & support our Obama
RON.
Don’t tell me that George is supporting McCain!!! I was sure that he wsa a died-in the-wool Democrat.
My heart is broken … sob.
And Basil – infinitely preferrable to Julie Bishop.
Jen…I was merely highlighting how much George would swoon to such a fine ‘green ‘ damsel to cheer her heart…… IF he’d been a Republican
but you can rest easy , his mind & heart is with you ‘figuratively’
Ron,
I wish.
Kirribilli -
are you bringing your opponents with you, or has ESJ buggered off?
and Basil’s idea of black leather was the FINAL straw where I with great regret
broke Glen’s heart over Julie Bishop
I’m ashamed to admit I said to glen re his Julie love
even dolly downer in ghis black stockings would be sexier than julie
…how could I jen
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Jen
Who can tell Jen? Last night he picked up his wet lettuce and ran home to mommy (for a good thrashing one supposes!).
He’ll probably pop up, wet lettuce in hand, waving it and snarling, but he’s so completely hot air it’s just amusing (mildly).
Talk about having deep pyschological problems and being let out in public!
One should pity, but hey, the tosser asks for everything he gets.
Ron,
I would have to agree with you on the Downer/Bishop camparison.
(I’ve always had a bit of a thing for Alex: – perhaps it’s striking resemblance to George C.)
Actually, this is not so much a test of Nelson’s leadership but more the followship within the non Labor side of politics. If Nelson can get his side to agree to the wording of a meaningful apology, then it is a great outcome for Australia. He will have made a valuable contribution to confronting a nasty side of our progress as a nation and give us all the opportunity to move on.
This is far too important an issue to be bogged down in petty party politics and puerile point scoring by the commentariat.
To me an apology needs to be heartfelt and unconditional. An apology decided on Party lines should not be the aim here.
Good luck Dr Nelson.
Not to mention his Richard Burton-like voice.
Used to have me swooning in his lateline interviews.
God, I miss him.
I can almost understand why Jen
Dolly announced yesterdat he’ll be will be doing peaking tours in his black stockings for his fans so perhaps you can get a ticket before they all sell out
Alright GG-
back to a serious matter:
Nelson’s equivocation and non-committment to the Apology to indigeneous Australians is a complete rerun of the Howard goverment’s appalling attitude to this issue by appealing to the base elements of parochialism and racism.(’they’ll want to take our land and bleed us dry with compensation claims. And anyway – we were just doing what was best for them, the ingrates’).
Wouldhave though the libs would have got the message by now.
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Ron
Dolly “peaking”?
hmmm, I’d pay to see that!
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Jen
It’s pretty bottom of the barrell stuff, but that’s where poor Horatio finds himself, with most of his support from the sludge-meisters, and he can’t ignore their grip on him.
Oh, how deliciously sad for the admiral.
Well at least the Admiral is getting ‘advice’ from the whispering article clerk
so Horatio now knows its gotta come from the heart…..what inspirational words
Nelson – what a leader…
Faced with the prospect of a lack of support he throws his hands up in the air so he can claim ‘wasn’t my fault’ later.
I don’t doubt that a large part of the population doesn’t want Sorry, but has Abbott not worked out that these hot heads change their political support at the drop of a hat to support their own selfish status quo?
The inability to avoid the wedge, even when it’s pointing directly at them, is intellectually laughable.
Nelson/Leader?
Hahahahhahhahhah
maybe Nelson should be referred to as LP ’spokesman’.
Skokesman – you know, the guy corporations employ to announce and take the shit from the press…
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personally, I like The Lamb-
as in sacrificial.
onimod , you seek to see a leader in the Admiral but all there is is pebbles of sand blowing in the wind
with Spiderman building his fire for Jen’s lamb sacrificial
90
you mean the stuff that should have been consumed on Australia Day.
hahaha.
Nelson reminds me of the ‘good looking vacuous guy’ type used in US sitcoms – pretty harmless and seemingly oblivious to the laughs he causes. J Bishop is the corresponding dumb blonde. I’m struggling to find the smart geeky boy/girl who always saves the day – it’s definitely not Aquaman. I don’t think this show will get much past pilot stage.
It seems pretty obvious to me – Kev needs to clean up education, and fast, and then hang on till the kids get through. Seeing Oz follow a European civilisation trend by a decade or more it’s really not hard to work out what the next move is.
Where was Kev posted and for how long….?
onimod
Vacuous, yes, but Good Looking?????
As my 8 year old would say….
onimod , yep …you have soundly defined the Admiral’s “qualitys”
yes Jen that ‘good looking’ can only apply to your George
must fly for a while…enjoy your afternoon fellow spirits
I said he played the type – not that it fitted perfectly…
As I also said – I think this one’s over after pilot season, or should be…
The problem with politics is that’s it’s not rational – the population at large reads so much more into these people than they can possible contain themselves.
The thing that gets me – I think I’ve raised it here before – is who the hell is advising these guys?
Why in a nation of 300 million can’t George W find a speech writer?
Why in a nation of 20 million can’t the liberals make a friend with someone who drinks a couple of pints in a pub on Friday afternoons?
onimod-
because he’s a liberal.
circular aargument.
The next election is shaping up nicely for a Brackslide.
http://petermartin.blogspot.com/2008/02/saturday-forum-labor-whose-party-is-it.html
No wonder Julia had the confidence to beat up on the limp celery during the campaign…
No wonder they were so shameless in exploiting the public advertising budget…
I do wonder why it took the ALP so long to get organised though.
Is there aby truth at all to the rumour that Nelson wants to try and emulate Rudd’s “Kevin 07″ campaign and is planning on running wtih the slogan “Bren 10″?
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as in: he thinks he’ll still be the leader in 2 years?
Hahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahhhahhahahahhahahah
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