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US primaries open thread

Been a bit busy lately, so it’s past time for a new US elections thread. Since Super Tuesday we’ve had an anticipated string of Barack Obama victories from caucuses in Nebraska, Washington and Maine and a primary in Louisiana, along with a narrow win for John McCain in Washington and probably meaningless victories for Mike Huckabee in Kansas and Louisiana. Tomorrow US time we have both parties holding primaries in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia.

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  1. 1251
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:14 am | Permalink

    HarryH, your comment at 1245 asserts that I have said things which I haven’t said. To get your head around what I have said, re-read 1241.

  2. 1252
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    Davidoff, it is HarryH’s comment at 1212 which suggests the Israelis were behind the Kennedy assassination. I haven’t offered an opinion on whether such an assertion would be anti-semitic, and I don’t propose to.

  3. 1253
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    #1252
    William
    Harry’s comment of 1212 was

    JFK’s biggest mistake was opposing Israels nuclear ambition….one might say a fatal mistake.

    That is an argument that I would agree with and I would go further to say that this is central to the immediate status quo in the middle east. I don’t see how this comment suggests or implies that the Israelis were behind the Kennedy assassination.

  4. 1254
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    william,

    now you’re waffling.

    i’ll leave it at that.

  5. 1255
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    Davidoff: So you think HarryH is saying JFK should have supported Israel’s nuclear ambition? I think you will find he is suggesting that because Kennedy opposed it, they had him bumped off, hence his mistake being “fatal”. If I am indeed under a misapprehension here, he has missed a number of opportunities to correct it.

  6. 1256
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:44 am | Permalink

    #1255
    William
    I could suggest that one may be taking the context of the word fatal a little too literally with respect to singular degree of association.

  7. 1257
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    william

    you are correct in what my original post suggested.

    but how is this anti semitic?

    by the way it was a post that flowed with the ongoing discussion at the time, it wasn’t an overt statement of all knowing fact….but …ah well

    by diogenes saying in the previous post to mine that the CIA was responsible make him anti american .

    anyway, at least one little ESJ is happy about the kerfuffle he caused.

  8. 1258
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    at least one little ESJ is happy about the kerfuffle he caused

    Oh no – you mean there are more of them?

  9. 1259
    Ron
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:55 am | Permalink

    Davidoff , hi

    your interpretation #1253 of Harry was the same as my interpretation at #1227 ie. geo political and William accepted my basis of argument in his #1244

    Harry has since confirmed he was suggesting that because Kennedy opposed Israel’s nuke ambitions they had him bumped off, hence his mistake being “fatal”

    Neither me , Davidoff or Harry care which interpretation Harry meant now

    Harry says now “anyway, at least one little ESJ is happy about the kerfuffle he caused” and he is right

    But esc any anyone else should be aware that IF they use “anti semetic” on this blog when Israel is criticised for its appalling humanitarian treatment of the Paalestinians or their abusibe lobbying of the US system or their geo political games ….such lame ‘anti semetic’ resposes will draw firm logical replys

    Such tactics ARE successful in the US but not here

  10. 1260
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    #1259
    And lets not even gone down the silly slope of justifying what a semitic is because at the end of the day we will be working with a demographic that doesn’t exist. But if that is true (and it is) – one can assume (rightly by rules of pure logic) that no such thing as an anti-semetic can exist (or am I getting off-topic here)?

  11. 1261
    Ron
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    My friend you are still on topic because that is the charge Obama now faces.
    After formally being made the Democratic Nominee it is one but not the only swiftboat that is going to be thrown at him more strongly.
    (Finn says there will be bucketloads & he’s right unfortunately)

    as to the non existence of semitic & consequentially anti semitic …touche !

  12. 1262
    Ron
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:30 am | Permalink

    and I say anon for another day of happiness

  13. 1263
    Posted Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    New thread open for tomorrow’s/today’s primaries/caucuses.

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