Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth

Morgan: Rudd 77, Nelson 9

Roy Morgan, which normally goes easy on “beauty contest” questions, has today entered the fray with a phone poll of 527 respondents. It gives Brendan Nelson the same 9 per cent preferred prime minister rating he suffered from Newspoll, with Kevin Rudd on 77 per cent compared with Newspoll’s 70 per cent. That’s not the worst of it though: on the question of preferred Liberal leader, Nelson can only manage equal fourth place behind Malcolm Turnbull (24 per cent), Peter Costello (18 per cent) and Joe Hockey (13 per cent). Nelson and Alexander Downer are both on 9 per cent. Kevin Rudd is favoured as Labor leader by 66 per cent over 15 per cent for Julia Gillard; in the absence of Rudd, 50 per cent would favour Gillard over 8 per cent for Wayne Swan.

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  1. 251
    BK
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    250 Glen – By the time the Libsa are again in with a chance Hunt will be as ols as Johhny!

  2. 252
    Jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Who is Greg Hunt?
    If he is the heir apparent he’d better get a better public profile.

  3. 253
    Scotty
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Mayo Feral @ 229
    Just out of interest which local paper is that? Mayo is a pretty Big electorate.

  4. 254
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    247 Scorpio

    To progress as a nation, it is best to not be sour about the past, but to learn and concentrate on the future.

    There has to be a separate entity to bring about a formation of a road to the future without political interference, but with senatorial over-sight.

    As Tim implies in his Garnaut thread…democracy is the hurdle.

  5. 255
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Mine is it was a bit short on detail and somewhat askew

    lol… talk about projection!….

    anyway…congratulations on only doing the “i” thing 5 times

  6. 256
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    255

    Try the “we” thingy…

  7. 257
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    and what army… (btw, that last bit “…” isn’t morse)

    Mr mack

  8. 258
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Oh my…do I have a cyber-stalker…tell me more…pray tell.

  9. 259
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    ha…m8

    you remember that image dont you?

  10. 260
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    scaper -
    trust me, it ain’t fun.

  11. 261
    apres
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    232
    Generic Person Says:
    Mr Bruce, I am not Glen and never have been.

    So GP, do you also deny categorically that you are Edward St John?

  12. 262
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    apres -
    denial is GP’s middle name.
    After all he is still defending the indefensible on this site.
    hope they are paying him well.

  13. 263
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    apres Says:

    So GP, do you also deny categorically that you are Edward St John?

    C’mom.. as if!

    If you need anymore proof, check out the writing styles!

    It’s like comparing scaper against somebody with connections!

  14. 264
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    M8…in bundara land???…cool!

  15. 265
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    classified -
    not sure what is going on with you and scaper, but either come out with it or back off. We have a code of conduct here, and if you are going to make snide implcations rather than say what you mean then I will be pissed off.

  16. 266
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    179
    Harry ‘Snapper’ Organs

    It was a Russian scientist living in England who stated:

    Politics is the art of the possiblel
    Science is the art of the soluble

  17. 267
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Name of Medvedev

  18. 268
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    close scaper…

  19. 269
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Got you picked…I tip my hat.

  20. 270
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    … is not morse!

  21. 271
    Fulvio Sammut
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Classified, haven’t you ever heard or read that Martin Luther King speech?

    We’re all entitled to have one.

    Naughty boy.

  22. 272
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Re. #205, Gusface…

    The Milennium Bug was real. It may not have taken $400 billion to fix it. But it was real and bad things would have happened had it not been fixed and checked. Every line of code that ran our banks and our defence establishments had to be gone over.

    Criticising the Y2K counter measures is like criticising a surgeon who saves a heart patient’s life. “Sheesh, you said he could have had a heart attack, but look: he’s up and walking already! He doesn’t look sick to me.”

    Well, he was, until he was fixed by the surgeon. Ditto with Y2K. Until it was fixed.

  23. 273
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Srry people, this is a personal thing underway here… it shouldn’t happen but alas sometimes it does…the nature of blogs

    no worries cos it will end soon… Admins always invoke the right!…in the end…to end

  24. 274
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Jen Says:
    February 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm
    classified -
    not sure what is going on with you and scaper, but either come out with it or back off. We have a code of conduct here, and if you are going to make snide implcations rather than say what you mean then I will be pissed off.

    “trembles”

  25. 275
    Harry 'Snapper' Organs
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Thomarse re: the source of the quote. It’s always struck me as most apt.

  26. 276
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    William, we have a sicko here…he is Tom of Melbourne…no morse to that champ!!!

  27. 277
    Scotty
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    250 Glen
    Why cause he is on sunrise? Shame he hardley gets a word in and when he does it dosnt come over well from the clip a saw the other day.

    Shame that Joe Hockey wasnt a women who is as hot as Tanya Plibersek. Maybe if he was Kevin would no have become Prime minister :P

  28. 278
    Harry 'Snapper' Organs
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Umm, I know I’m easily confused by the more arcane aspects of psephology, but WTF is going on between Scaper and Classified? Is this an example of extreme population attribute? Is it something like NAIRU? Is it provable? Re-peatable in a lab?

  29. 279
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    classified -
    it’s not about causing you to tremble.
    it’s about Respect, as Aretha would say.

  30. 280
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    278

    This person has followed me over several blogs and has slandered me and posted under my name here just before Xmas.

    I come here to look at the figures and crunch them.

    This place is the basis of my understanding…sorry to be put you through this here…hey Tommy???

  31. 281
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    jen…

    anytime you want… re = review snide implications…

    your friend scaper….. well…I could tell stories!

    apart from that… perhaps growing up might help?

    over 2 u (sing out if u need help!)

  32. 282
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Let’s hear these stories, bud…easier to understand your motives.

  33. 283
    Harry 'Snapper' Organs
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    I’m off to see ‘Keating, the Musical’, but would be interested in others’ thoughts about how the climate change debate can be steered. I’m in the sometimes terrified camp, being aware of Easter Island referred to by Diogenes, and of a similar sceptic bent given my regular exposure to a large number of people who behave self destructively. There’s also quite substantial evidence that the Mayan civilisation declined due to them eating themselves out of house and home, and this was a quite sophisticated civilisation. Having got myself quite down considering the folly of human kind, then my technophile side kicks in. Did anyone else see the report in today’s “Age” on the amazing chip developed by a Melbourne based scientist? It’s revolutionary. Really.

  34. 284
    gusface
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    BB
    i respectful disagree

    Y2k

    was trumpeted as end of civilisation

    was really chance for consultants/it companies to make a motza

    seems there may be a pattern there !!

  35. 285
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    classifieds -
    you’re moderated.

  36. 286
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    thank god….. no… wait!…damn(caught me)~!

    silly little girl… yes I’m here

    I’m just waiting for for you to say something useful!

  37. 287
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    are you
    ESJ/Generic Person/ Glen/Tabitha/ Janette Howard/ George Bush?

  38. 288
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    or just a PainITA.

  39. 289
    Diogenes
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    283 Harry- there are lots of theories of why the Mayans snuffed it. Foreign invasion, disease, peasant revolt etc. One of the most popular is a famine, as you suggest, brought on by too little food for too many people. The famine was putatively exacerbated by a multi-year drought.

  40. 290
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    287
    jen Says:
    February 23rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm
    are you
    ESJ/Generic Person/ Glen/Tabitha/ Janette Howard/ George Bush?

    alas it’s true

    As I always say to the small children when I do the “Santa”…I

    ‘m fat…but rich… who cares what santa brings when your rich!

  41. 291
    Inner Westie
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Oh how delightful – a fake madman!

    And I think you meant “you’re rich” … education is important as well as wealth and put-on weird chic surely.

    (Tell that to “the children”.)

  42. 292
    Inner Westie
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Sorry William. I’ll be good from now on … I promise.

  43. 293
    jen
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    classified-
    please don’t tell me that you get to be Santa.

  44. 294
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    No Jen, he is not up to the speed of any of those guys.

    It is time that the legal team extract the origin of this person…a brave move by the Tom!!!

  45. 295
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    It is time that the legal team extract the origin of this person…a brave move by the Tom!!!

    You do that, in fact I will send you my email//name/address …{no need to do same}

    So…Tony… lets dance…

    jen can tap you on the shoulder whenever she is brave enough… assuming she can live with full disclosure

  46. 296
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    btw jen

    for your records

    I’m 3rd from the right

    http://www.farecompare.com/editorial/content/rickseaney/santas-galore.jpg

  47. 297
    gusface
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    hey dude this is getting kind of weird

    are you a stalking santa or someit

  48. 298
    classified
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    lol

  49. 299
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Meanwhile in WA, another rat is jumping the sinking vessel that is the SS Boozewell :-)

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/23/2170621.htm

  50. 300
    steve
    Posted Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    299 Frank, it seems the Libs are disintegrating all over the country.

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