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	<title>Comments on: EMRS: 39-37 to Labor in Tasmania</title>
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		<title>By: Molesworth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-143873</link>
		<dc:creator>Molesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t claim it was an original thought - I got that guess from comments on the Mercury website I think. It definitely wasn&#039;t a good idea to sack him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t claim it was an original thought &#8211; I got that guess from comments on the Mercury website I think. It definitely wasn&#8217;t a good idea to sack him!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bonham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-143766</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bonham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welll done Molesworth (#32) - your guess was right; sacked staffer Nigel Burch has now revealed himself as the source of the shredded document.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welll done Molesworth (#32) &#8211; your guess was right; sacked staffer Nigel Burch has now revealed himself as the source of the shredded document.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bonham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-142591</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bonham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32 - interesting; now that you mention it, the guy sacked a few weeks ago for writing to the Premier was indeed Kons&#039; staffer.  So far I have not seen any link drawn publicly between that sacking and the document affair; perhaps the Premier&#039;s current attempts to get to the bottom of how the document came to be available may look in that direction.

Re #35, I also found the business you mention, but I also found there are two C O&#039;Briens in Legana in the phonebook, so I am wary of assuming it&#039;s the same person.  Anyway, given that he is the sole challenger to a sitting member he seems extremely obscure; I certainly haven&#039;t heard of him!

This online in the Examiner: &quot;has worked in banking and in the tourism and landscaping business&quot;, aged 46, ran &quot;to give voters a choice&quot;.

&quot;Mr O&#039;Brien said he had issues about the approval process of Gunns&#039; proposed pulp mill but believed the decision had to be accepted so people could move forward.&quot;

More at http://northerntasmania.yourguide.com.au/news/breaking/general/finch-faces-a-challenge-for-his-legislative-council-seat/1221689.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 &#8211; interesting; now that you mention it, the guy sacked a few weeks ago for writing to the Premier was indeed Kons&#8217; staffer.  So far I have not seen any link drawn publicly between that sacking and the document affair; perhaps the Premier&#8217;s current attempts to get to the bottom of how the document came to be available may look in that direction.</p>
<p>Re #35, I also found the business you mention, but I also found there are two C O&#8217;Briens in Legana in the phonebook, so I am wary of assuming it&#8217;s the same person.  Anyway, given that he is the sole challenger to a sitting member he seems extremely obscure; I certainly haven&#8217;t heard of him!</p>
<p>This online in the Examiner: &#8220;has worked in banking and in the tourism and landscaping business&#8221;, aged 46, ran &#8220;to give voters a choice&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr O&#8217;Brien said he had issues about the approval process of Gunns&#8217; proposed pulp mill but believed the decision had to be accepted so people could move forward.&#8221;</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://northerntasmania.yourguide.com.au/news/breaking/general/finch-faces-a-challenge-for-his-legislative-council-seat/1221689.html" rel="nofollow">http://northerntasmania.yourguide.com.au/news/breaking/general/finch-faces-a-challenge-for-his-legislative-council-seat/1221689.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Molesworth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-142464</link>
		<dc:creator>Molesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feral Sparrowhawk

If you put speech marks around the name and add &quot;Launceston&quot; you get hits from a guy who seems to run a maintenance business, which fits with his occupation description on the TEC site. If it is the same Colin O&#039;Brien it seems that his business was at some point based in Dilston on the other side of the Tamar to the seat of Rosevears (Dilston is in Windemere).

Check out the Launceston Examiner site tomorrow and there&#039;s likely to be something, I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feral Sparrowhawk</p>
<p>If you put speech marks around the name and add &#8220;Launceston&#8221; you get hits from a guy who seems to run a maintenance business, which fits with his occupation description on the TEC site. If it is the same Colin O&#8217;Brien it seems that his business was at some point based in Dilston on the other side of the Tamar to the seat of Rosevears (Dilston is in Windemere).</p>
<p>Check out the Launceston Examiner site tomorrow and there&#8217;s likely to be something, I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-142461</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve added an update to this post regarding the upper house nominations:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Following yesterday&#039;s close of nominations for the upper house elections, it has been revealed that two-horse races will proceed in both divisions. In Huon, Paul Harriss will face Greens candidate Mark Rickards, a former Royal Australian Navy officer and candidate for Franklin at the 2006 state election. Kerry Finch faces a challenge in Rosevears from independent Colin O&#039;Brien, who would appear to be the proprietor of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webstays.com/Product.aspx?ListingID=4314&amp;loc=/Australia/Tasmania/Legana&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bed and breakfast&lt;/a&gt; at Legana just outside of Launceston.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Newspaper archive searches on O&#039;Brien have drawn a blank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve added an update to this post regarding the upper house nominations:</p>
<blockquote><p>Following yesterday&#8217;s close of nominations for the upper house elections, it has been revealed that two-horse races will proceed in both divisions. In Huon, Paul Harriss will face Greens candidate Mark Rickards, a former Royal Australian Navy officer and candidate for Franklin at the 2006 state election. Kerry Finch faces a challenge in Rosevears from independent Colin O&#8217;Brien, who would appear to be the proprietor of a <a href="http://www.webstays.com/Product.aspx?ListingID=4314&#038;loc=/Australia/Tasmania/Legana" rel="nofollow">bed and breakfast</a> at Legana just outside of Launceston.</p></blockquote>
<p>Newspaper archive searches on O&#8217;Brien have drawn a blank.</p>
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		<title>By: feral sparrowhawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-142453</link>
		<dc:creator>feral sparrowhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that Huon is indeed a straight match-up between the incumbent and a Green challenger. There&#039;s also a contest in Rosevears, but the challenger (Colin O&#039;Brien) isn&#039;t listed as a Green. Hard name to Google - anyone know anything about him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that Huon is indeed a straight match-up between the incumbent and a Green challenger. There&#8217;s also a contest in Rosevears, but the challenger (Colin O&#8217;Brien) isn&#8217;t listed as a Green. Hard name to Google &#8211; anyone know anything about him?</p>
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		<title>By: Molesworth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-142407</link>
		<dc:creator>Molesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I know this is unfair but I can&#039;t resist repeating this: Kons &quot;hardly seems to have a single enemy&quot;.

Might not have been such a good idea for Kons to acquiesce in his staffer&#039;s sacking ... it was his staffer who got the sack for bagging Lennon wasn&#039;t it? 

(I have no evidence of course.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I know this is unfair but I can&#8217;t resist repeating this: Kons &#8220;hardly seems to have a single enemy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Might not have been such a good idea for Kons to acquiesce in his staffer&#8217;s sacking &#8230; it was his staffer who got the sack for bagging Lennon wasn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>(I have no evidence of course.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bonham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-142094</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bonham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kons can be scratched from the list of future suspects for the ALP leadership - he was sensationally forced to resign after a contentious document he had signed concerning staff employment was reconstructed from the shredder by the Greens after he had denied its existence on the floor of the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kons can be scratched from the list of future suspects for the ALP leadership &#8211; he was sensationally forced to resign after a contentious document he had signed concerning staff employment was reconstructed from the shredder by the Greens after he had denied its existence on the floor of the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bonham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/04/01/emrs-39-37-to-labor-in-tasmania/comment-page-1/#comment-141747</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bonham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite amazing that Peg Putt is still openly talking about wanting cabinet positions.  Pushing for the deputy premiership was a serious blunder in the previous campaign.  I don&#039;t think it harmed her own party&#039;s vote much, but it certainly helped Labor keep the doubters in the fold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite amazing that Peg Putt is still openly talking about wanting cabinet positions.  Pushing for the deputy premiership was a serious blunder in the previous campaign.  I don&#8217;t think it harmed her own party&#8217;s vote much, but it certainly helped Labor keep the doubters in the fold.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a fool would try to predict elections two years out ... oh, well, if the cap fits! If I was framing a market now I would have a hung parliament favourite. There are only three remotely possible outcomes, and here is how I rate the probabilities:

Labor majority: 29%
Liberal majority: 2%
No majority: 69%

I think the Liberals vote at around 32% is below what their support &quot;should&quot; be. It has been kept this low by, first, an amateur-hour campaign in 2002 by an unelectable Bob Cheek as leader, and then, as Kevin points out, a very poor campaign in 2006 under Rene Hidding where they gave votes to Labor by rejecting a minority outcome.

At the most recent state elections around the country most Liberal parties scored in the high thirties on primaries. All states are in roughly the same position: generally poorly performing over the past decade against a dominant ALP. Tasmania is not directly incomparable, of course. The other states don&#039;t have the Greens sucking up 17% of the vote. But providing leader Will Hodgman maintains reasonable levels of popularity, and providing the Libs don&#039;t self-destruct with their campaign again, another 5-6% should be almost a gimme.

Anything more than that ... I don&#039;t know. I discuss the general issue of majority/minority government as an issue here: http://tasmanianpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-beat-majority-government-scare.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a fool would try to predict elections two years out &#8230; oh, well, if the cap fits! If I was framing a market now I would have a hung parliament favourite. There are only three remotely possible outcomes, and here is how I rate the probabilities:</p>
<p>Labor majority: 29%<br />
Liberal majority: 2%<br />
No majority: 69%</p>
<p>I think the Liberals vote at around 32% is below what their support &#8220;should&#8221; be. It has been kept this low by, first, an amateur-hour campaign in 2002 by an unelectable Bob Cheek as leader, and then, as Kevin points out, a very poor campaign in 2006 under Rene Hidding where they gave votes to Labor by rejecting a minority outcome.</p>
<p>At the most recent state elections around the country most Liberal parties scored in the high thirties on primaries. All states are in roughly the same position: generally poorly performing over the past decade against a dominant ALP. Tasmania is not directly incomparable, of course. The other states don&#8217;t have the Greens sucking up 17% of the vote. But providing leader Will Hodgman maintains reasonable levels of popularity, and providing the Libs don&#8217;t self-destruct with their campaign again, another 5-6% should be almost a gimme.</p>
<p>Anything more than that &#8230; I don&#8217;t know. I discuss the general issue of majority/minority government as an issue here: <a href="http://tasmanianpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-beat-majority-government-scare.html" rel="nofollow">http://tasmanianpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-beat-majority-government-scare.html</a></p>
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