Morgan’s latest survey combines two sets of phone polling conducted in the middle of this week and last week, producing an unusually large sample of 2231. Normally their phone poll figures consist of only one such set of polling. It shows Labor leading 60.5-39.5 per cent on two-party preferred – down from 61-39 at the phone poll of March 11-12, and from 63.5-36.5 in the more recent face-to-face survey released last week.
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Watch the Opposition Orifice spin this, regarding a Treaty.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,23489777-5005361,00.html
Uhlmann is the typical TV Bimbo (Himbo?) that they used to make TV sitcoms and movies about in the 80’s and 90’s.
It’s like he’s a poor impressionist trying to do an Oakes or (the late) Richard Carleton, but comes off much closer to Richard (Dick) Wilkins.
No
Intellectual
Content
What’s that about people throwing stones at glass houses
Looks like Brendan will be a prime candidate for year two reading in the education revolution.
You would think a Dr would know the difference but then that’s probably why he has had three marriages.
Maybe he has a phobia about his organ!
Funny, but not as funny as the Brendan Nelson misadventure story from this week, which was snuffled out by the Nine Network’s Laurie Oakes.
While listening intently at a shopping centre in Wayne Swan’s Brisbane seat of Lilley, the Liberal leader was reportedly approached by a young man wearing a T-shirt which proclaimed the wearer to be an “Orgasm Donor”.
Dr Nelson made a small but crucial error in reading the slogan, and was well into a small speech of congratulation to the young man on his public-spiritness when he was gently corrected by another passer-by.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/annabel-crabb/ruddsnuggling-on-the-register/2008/04/04/1207249454003.html?page=2
142 Kina – Why change something that is working so well? You don’t fix something that isn’t broke.
Any treaty won’t fly. Public won’t back it and the Indigenous community is not likely to either. There would be too much disagreement over what was to go into it. As for who would sign it to on Indigenous side is another bunfight that would happen for sure. Internal Indigenous politics makes the Queensland conservatives look fully functional.
Kina @ 140 -
The Liberals & Howard on the other hand were pretty rude to Al when he was last here.
In one of the parallel universes Howard is still PM and Al is about to be drafted as the Dem candidate for the election he will win. Now wouldn’t you want to be the fly on a Oval Office wall during Howard first visit. Assuming he had the guts to show. I certainly would pay big money to be there!
Mind you, in the unlikely event Al were drafted in this universe I suspect Howard might find engagements on the lucrative American lecture circuit start to dry up. Seriously p*ssing off a potential future American Prez always seemed a really, really dumb move.
Not that I’m really complaining but has anyone else had trouble opening up the OO site? I get the front page but it freezes somewhere in the download everytime. I can open all of the other papers with no problems.
Loads fine here using Bigpuddle.
Thanks Frank – it’s strange because I’ve never had this trouble before.
Antonio-of-the-ABC
In light of Allan’s and my experience (75 and 91) of receiving identical responses from the ABC after our complaints about Pies on the Insiders, wtf point is there in complaining? Their response is simply windowdressing.
I am reminded of a sketch from Derek and Clive. Clive (a.k.a. Peter Cook) writes to Margaret Thatcher (then in her period as Opposition Leader before winning the 1979 election) complaining that he has “the horn”, and asks what action the Conservative Party proposes to take. The faint of heart are warned to proceed no further:
Just a thought but could it be the OO did do a Newspoll last week and it was so bad for their good buddy Brendon that they scuttled it? Then they said to all the OO “writers” (using the term loosley) and the ABC hacks “Get out there and compose some compost about Rudd, do whatever it takes, lie, fabricate, fornicate do anything but fer christsake make Australia hate Rudd so our boy can rise above 7 ##ckin” %”
Just a thought, we’ll see if the big salute has done the trick if they put out a newspoll on Tuesday.
The way the established journalists at the ABC introduce Uhlmann as “the ABC’s chief political correspondent” says it all. They do everything but hoik and lob a golly into the camera when they have to read his name out.
Bushfire Bill
uhlmann sorta sounds like the noise you make in your throat to ready the golly for hoiking
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William Bowe
Ah, Derek and Clive…imf@ckingmortal!
I’m still not sure why the salute was so bad and I think that would be the case for most people.
166 Gary
Either there really is a fundamental difference in the way people interpret what Rudd did, or people are becoming ever more desperate to find a reason to chuck mud.
I have personally seen someone react to what he did – the rest of us in the room shook our heads and rolled our eyes, and some of them were not ALP voters.
I think things are definitely more subtle than ‘hate Rudd, vote Liberal’, though that seems to be the primary school level of thinking being employed by the media, who seem hell bent on a race to the bottom of the credibility well.
167 [the primary school level of thinking being employed by the media, who seem hell bent on a race to the bottom of the credibility well.]
Forget the salute, the media circus has moved on.
“IT’S time for Therese Rein to put style ahead of substance, according to some of Australia’s leading fashion designers.
After a week on the world stage, accompanying her Prime Minister husband Kevin Rudd on his 17-day tour, Ms Rein has been in the media spotlight more than at any time since last year’s federal election victory.
And her fashion statements during stops in Washington, New York, Brussels and London have left some of the country’s top style experts asking questions about her choices, given the public focus now placed on leaders’ wives.”
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23490661-3102,00.html
onimod I like your 2nd option. Its the ‘Rudd wave” , uniquely Australian and invented by Kevin07. He used the same Rudd wave on Election night & loved it
And Outgoing WA Senator Ruth Webber is being blasted for taking a “Farewell Junket”.
And yes, they HAD to drag up the Speeding Ticket on Election Day 2004.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,23490396-2761,00.html
Luckily Therse Rein didn’t attempt to catch peoples attention similarly to Sonia McMahon in the late 60’s.
This mob would have absolutely crucified her.
The problem with Rudd is he really doesn’t give them very much to criticize and much more that really should deserve praise.
But that is another story. We can’t have that sort of thing appearing in the MSM. Not with a string of critical by-elections coming up and our favored LNP needing as big a leg-up as we can possibly give them
Have to balance the ledger eh what!
Frank,
I can’t remember any such ballyhoo when our esteemed current diplomat in Italy took a similar lap of honour prior to her departure.
Or the numerous other LNP Senators and MHR’s who did the same thing.
Boy-o-boy, they sure hold Labor pollies to a high standard. Saint hood awaits.
The blatant hypocrisy we are seeing recently is surely embarrassing someone.
And it seems they are having trouble finding a replacment for McGauran
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/coalition-struggles-to-find-gippsland-candidate/2008/04/05/1207249548514.html
“It is understood the party has approached Sally Cray, a former lawyer who now works as an adviser to shadow treasurer Malcolm Turnbull, and Peter Harrison, a local school teacher.
But few potential candidates have expressed interest
Normally you’d have a blood bath, but there are no takers,” a senior source said. “It’s a broader indication that people think they can’t win the seat after the 2007 election defeat.”
I love the way Therese presents herself, she is bubbly and colorful and shimmies like sunshine. I don’t reckon she’d give a stuff what some snooty so called fashion expert says about her anyway.
“IT’S time for Therese Rein to put style ahead of substance, according to some of Australia’s leading fashion designers.”
Salute, plastic-bags, not visiting Japan on this trip, trip too long, cardboard cutout of Kev, Lib leadership uncertainty, NSW liberal party drama, Qld Lib?Nat drama.
Maybe it isn’t bad at all, the media and the Libs are characterising themselves as the trivia party implying that there are no serious problems with the govt, just minor foibles. And anybody would now vote for the LNP because?
But we are missing decent presentation and analysis of the real issues. But I guess that doesn’t sell.
For heaven’s sakes. One could be forgiven for thinking that Therese Rein has been wearing outfits designed by the “Crocodile Hunter” or something.
Get a life folks and leave her alone. She didn’t stand for election and has had to pay quite a price already because of your small minded pettiness in using her to attack her husband.
Case in point Mark Valie and Wilson Tuckey.
And no-one complained about what Janette wore on her trips with John, they were both wearing RSL Chic
Speaing of which, did he not wear his usual uniform when he was at the BBQ for Dubya ?
http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussie_news_views/images/6_9_06_steve_irwin_pres_bush_pm_howard_a.jpg
Looks fairly clear now that Costello is not taking the bait and is determined to leave soon.
Looks like they are stuck with Half Nelson for a while yet.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/coalition-struggles-to-find-gippsland-candidate/2008/04/05/1207249548514.html
Janette’s ’style’ was (is?) the subject of much discussion in social circles, particularly Sydney unsurprisingly. But rather than throw stones I’ll just snigger to myself…
Therese is a champ and I hope she answers with a raised middle finger.
Even the Newspoll has the ALP hovering around 59% consistently up from the 53% at the election. I think the LNP have to thank the aura of Howard and incumbency for the narrowing that occurred coming up to the election.
The next election Rudd will have incumbency and but more importantly the LNP will not have an 11 year figure-head in Howard as a filter through which to view the party.
With Howard it really needed people to be fed up with him before there were enough willing to dump him. Howard got on the nose with Workchoices and his arrogant behavior but it still took Rudd to jump in and present himself as an acceptable alternative and, also give reasons that people could relate to as to why change was necessary.
For Rudd to lose the next election the party has to be on the nose for some pretty bad policy and the LNP need to have an attractive alternative (and no nasty policies).
I can only see Greenhouse Gas reduction policy as the only thing with a workchoices potential – so the ALP do need to use Carbon and other revenues sensibly to mitigate widespread problems. On that score we are beginning to get the scare tactics (reports and comments) from the energy and mining industry as to how exceedingly expensive it is going to be, how it is going to push down standard of living how it is going to make power so expensive and so on.
Rudd will not only need to get the policy settings right but also the language and follow up.
Vera Says:
And what do we have, Rudd returns a salute ( nice to be polite) and Therese doesn’t dress nice ( so she like most of our wifes doesn’t spend a fortune on designer cloths). The press really have lost it.
It looks like Howard and the press have lost touch with the common man, unfortunately the press can’t be replaced with an election. The Liberals have got no hope if they leave their work to the New ltd hacks.
180 [Therese is a champ and I hope she answers with a raised middle finger]
A fashionable salute indeed, Onimod.
I think it is a mistake by the press to home in on Theresa’s attire. Half the population won’t give a hoot (read male) and most of the other half will feel offended for her. In other words not only a non story but a self defeating non story.
Agree, GB #184. It just makes the Liberals and their running-mates in the mainstream media look like trivial spite-snipes.
On that count, I figure it actually helps Labor.
the best part of the Costello shenanigans is it shows just how desparate many are in the party to prevent Turnbull for getting the leadership. Turnbull is consistently the no. 1 voters choice for leader
Watch the party it itself apart when Turnbull tries
Andrew
In my mind, Turnbull is the logical choice for the leadership role of the opposition…I’m just not sure it will be called the LNP.
Maybe the Coalition is in a state of white ant degradation and demolition is the only approach in order to rebuild?
That a centrist like Turnbull is bitterly opposed, time and again, indicates that the Liberals are determined to avoid a centrist position, preferring instead the hard-right course in the Howard mould.
They have more or less ceded the centre ground to Labor, who hold it with a wide margin (as per the Morgan poll in William’s thread header). It is at the right fringe that the “Liberals” position themselves.
This story relates how the Liberals tied themselves into knots on the Apology issue, with Minchin cussing Turnbull, and general paranoia abounding in the Liberal camp …
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23180714-2702,00.html
Frank at 158,
I had the same problem – search for “the australian” using google and click on say opinion rather than the main title then you will be fine. Mind you, looks like it has been fixed now.
Kerneels, the problem is easily fixed. Use any search engine other than Google.
Kim Beazley’s thoughts on the “salute” LOL
‘It’s always a good way to greet an American with a salute, they do love it.’
http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=225874
Gillard wants all the rats who leave the sinking ship to have by elections on the same day to save money.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/gillard-urges-libs-to-go-for-super-byelection-saturday/2008/04/06/1207420166712.html
The ASIC inquiry report into Mortgage entry and exit fees is here.
http://www.treasurer.gov.au/DisplayDocs.aspx?doc=pressreleases/2008/018.htm&pageID=003&min=wms&Year=&DocType=
192 Steve, perhaps we can call it ‘Divine Wind’ Saturday, as they all line up to get into their Zeros and plunge to electoral oblivion
Basil, perhaps if they were more internet savvy they could take our snippets on board.
http://theorstrahyun.blogspot.com/2008/04/liberals-pray-to-tubes-of-internets-for.html
Speaking of the Intertubes, Milne is at it again attacking Labor over the Computers for every student.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23489688-5006009,00.html
Milne is the leak King – most of his stuff has super-dooper secret squirrel leaks to back up his fantasies.
On closer inspection this “leak” seems to have come from Peter Costello’s former political adviser – Tony Smith.
Tony a hint – scrap that bit from your resume.
Oh and check out the typical responses on the comments section – straight out of Liberal Party HQ.
WTF?
Albrechtson “Cut the Prime Minister some slack. Regardless of your politics, Kevin Rudd has done a fine job representing our economic and foreign policy interests on his 17 day trip abroad. Yet he made headlines when he offered a salute to President George W Bush.”
ah Milne, the floating turd of journalism.
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