Democratic voters in West Virginia will today elect 28 delegates by some method or other. I can’t be bothered looking into it because the New York Post reports that Hillary Clinton is “toast”, and papa says, “if you see it in the Post, it’s so”.
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Oh-oh, snotfish are jumpin’ and the codger is high.
Mate, if you ever get arrested, no matter how many squishy hankies you’ve got in your pocket, her majesty’s ever vigilant and watchful constabulary are gunna slide you into a goblet cell and hoik away the key!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblet_cells
Sat May 17:
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/billday;_ylt=ApO2zNcE9qnPz0GIBR4_H1dN_b4F
1348 ESJ
The running mate is considered to be worth an extra 5% vote. That puts Virginia in the blue states with Jim Webb as VP.
But Diogenes hasnt Webb admitted to not being partial to people of colour?
BS at 1330, would Hillary really demand VP? Would the convention not vote with Obama’s choice? I doubt they’d overrule his wishes
Diogenes @ 1343 -
Not sure about them turning against the Repubs because of Iraq, per se. They might on the shabby way the troops have/are being treated, but I wouldn’t count on it. The U.S. military has a long history of doing just that (as has ours, just ask the Voyager disaster survivors). It may make the difference if it’s a close race in those states, but of itself won’t be enough, IMO.
Obama’s best asset: George W Bush. Obama’s reply to the appeaser nonsense:
“He accused me and other Democrats of wanting to negotiate with terrorists, and said we were appeasers no different from people who appeased Adolf Hitler,” said Obama. “That is what George Bush said in front of the Israeli parliament. Now that is exactly the kind of appalling attack that has divided our country and alienates us from the world. And that is why we need change in Washington, that is part of the reason I am running for president of the United States of America.”
Ecky, our old mate Ahmed (the Charlatan) is getting the boot…again:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/37261.html
…although it’s almost impenetrable as to why. Except of course for the obvious reason, that it’s Ahmed.
It’s nice to see an article that talks about Florida in terms other than simply ‘out of bounds’:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article510039.ece
…that would really be interesting if Obama runs McCain hard there and one other big one, say Texas. That should blow a hole in Macca’s lunch money! LOL
too bad he BHO couldnt even win a primary in Florida
More ads (3) from the Clintons – the last dud fireworks from the bottom of the box being lit at the fag end of cracker night on Empire Day when its time for the kiddies to leave the bonfire and go home. And this in Oregon, where she hasn’t got a chance, so why bother? :
PORTLAND, Ore. – Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign is increasingly aiming its punches not at her front-running opponent Barack Obama, but at the media.
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“This may be as much about men as it is about D.C.” or the media, he [Tim Hibberts] said, pointing out that all the pundits featured in the ad are men. Polls in Oregon, including one last week by Hibbitt’s firm, have shown Obama leading Clinton among women voters, an important part of her base.
Taken together, the three ads illustrate the nearly 180-degree pivot Clinton’s campaign has made since she entered the race early last year as the overwhelming favorite to secure the Democratic nomination.
Back then, she criticized the anti-corporate, anti-special interest rhetoric of her chief rivals Obama and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards as overly simplistic. She pledged to work with all sides to forge compromises. And her campaign encouraged media characterizations of her as the inevitable nominee.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10420_Page2.html
‘180-degree pivot’ ? A slight understatement I’d suggest. Add all Hillary’s pivots up and it would beat the upturned twists of a synchronised swimming team at the Olympics.
Interesting development …
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24679629/
John Edwards said yesterday he doesn’t want to run for VP again, but he didn’t deny he and Obama have discussed other potential jobs in a Democratic administration – presumably Attorney General?
Hillary’s campaign is in its death throes, and if the only supporters she’s got left are ESJ and Ron, I know which side I’d rather be on LOL
Catrina @ 1361 – Given Nancy’s allegiance to Barack, I’d say that visit is all about the real meaning of Hillary’s mantra – being ‘ready on Day 1′ except it’s Barack who’s going to be ready.
1362 Progressive – I’ll take board odds that Edwards will be set for Attorney-General should Obama beat McCain. His background as a practical lawyer, the power of that position to affect the plight of the underdog, and his general political philosophy all point to that post rather than VP, where he would be wasted, in my uninformed view.
BSF @ 1330,
You musn’t miss out the Obama sheltered workshop group on PB who go by the title of “Barraks uncritically loving loyalist sycophants hoplessly ignorant to their egos’ rhetorical stupidities”.
We Clinton “Creeps” call them Obama’s “B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.T.E.R.S.”
You can too!
Oh look at that, the baby has been playing with the alphabet blocks again. Isn’t he clever? I wonder what he’ll be if he ever grows up.
Progressive @ 1362 – [the only supporters she’s got left are ESJ and Ron]
Apart from ESJ and r/Ron don’t forget the erudite GG (see 1365 for a soaring example) we have had lurking Hillary’s lovely caring American couple Rain
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and Mathew Cole, who are very busy right now with all that busy stuff that serial world wide web blog plants have to deal with, plus, you know, oh, work projects in Canberra, family and stuff, so they
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might touch base with us when the Clinton camp lets them go for lack of money.
Growler-
obviously you have taken the keyboard back from your stand-in. Abuse resumes.
Having trawled back through all the comments- political, economic, personal bias, whatever, the thing I am left feeling most unsettled about is the dialogue between Diogenes and Mayo-Feral.
The cavalier indifference with which these governments have sent children (and they are) to war, and the inhumanity shown to them, their victims, their families and the ‘pink-mist’ that shrouds us all-
we can all bang on about white male demographics and centralist voters who won’t vote for a black man, but surely it is time we became civilised rather than stuck in a paradigm of plain stupidity .
Hi JV
do you think they are from the Inside??
Hope so – it’s good to know that they would bother with little old oz blogs. Or else it shows how desperate and dateless the Clampetts are.
We can’t even vote afterall.
Hi Jen [do you think they are from the Inside??]
I think they are Jen – the forces of control worry about us – we are an inquiring and thinking lot (especially you of course) – and that’s a concern to any establishment such as The House of Clinton. Their operatives are listening to us now. Careful – only talk in generalisations about the revolution, such as “I like Barack in red” or ‘I like red wine, it reminds me of Barack” and they won’t twig we’re really talking about a downgrade in Halliberton’s annual profit.
I hope you lock your doors at night. If you see a red dot on your shirt, drop to the floor.
OMG JV-
do you think the dead dolphin I saw on the beach with the shark-bite to the head – (no shit!)
was a message??
Jen – It certainly was a message, and if a dolphin’s head ends up in your bed, you’ll know it will be a ‘narrow squeak’ if you are to escape. I myself have dropped to the floor several times tonight on seeing a red dot on my shirt, but fortunately each time it has turned out to be merely another splash of red wine. Lucky so far … but the people around me are confused.
BTW Jen – did you really see a shark mauled dolphin on the beach? I live in and on the water and haven’t seen that but I think you’re down south (?) in white pointer territory. I’ll swim up here thanks.
jv
don’t panic if you hear a gunshot…it’ll probably only be that jokester The Huckster firing a starters pistol at the Black Guy for shits n giggles.
HarryH – I went to a dinner last night where Tony Squires was MC and he was nearly as funny as the Huckster but not quite – and Tony had some ‘killer’ one liners. What a shame for him be overshadowed by Mike.
Do you you think it was Mike’s way of saying he doesn’t want to be VP?
lol
if it was, it is the first time he has been effective all year.
HarryH – The mixed race guy whose skin is black is going to do this – isn’t it great? I don’t know if you think like me, but I genuinely believe the world will be just a little bit safer if he ascends
Maybe Huckster was channelling his fellow comedian Eddie Murphy
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/05/huckabee_shoots_himself_in_the_foot_in_his_mouth/
G’day Bludgers,
Families of America’s dead and maimed war heroes can never thank you enough for your sacrifice, Mr. President. And Senator McCain hopes you won’t mind too much if The Senator doesn’t ask you to campaign with him ahead of November.
http://caglepost.com/cartoon/Keefe/51003/Sacrifice+COLOR.html
http://caglepost.com/cartoon/JD+Crowe/50997/Bush+Sacrifices+Golf.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/telnaes/telnaes_main.html
KR #1366. This playing with blocks is fun for infantile mnds. My 6 year old informs me that GG is a bit of a desperate regurgitator of propaganda – kindergarten’s idiotic Clintonite kid.
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Enemy Combatant Says:
May 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Morning EC – thanks for the toons!
hiya RB
Clubbing Bush with his own personal sacrifice is, like, soooooo unfair. Afterall, the man has had to cut short his down on the ranch time to make appearances in the Rose Garden and stumble through some of the most mangled English you’ve ever heard, AND, he’s cut down on his golf.
Give the man a break!
Just because the Republican party have designated the President as “TOXIC:HANDLE WITH CAUTION” is no reason for the rest of the world to dump on him.
Meanwhile, gods,guns and gays, is starting it’s warm up for the big November bash, and one WaPo article, you couldn’t call it journalism, makes the stunning case that Obama and Edwards are girly guys who nearly kissed on stage. Wow, political insight, or what. (Is that why I don’t read the WaPO?). OK, they ain’t eloping to California just yet, to tie the knot, but you can bet we’ll be seeing more of this tripe over the coming months.
But if Obi’s had everyone from some slimeball ‘journalist’ trying to turn him, and Hillary trying to geld him, Macca has got his own problems now that the California Supreme Court have read the constitution and decided that, shock, horror, it actually applies to everyone! (These conservative judges do a great imitation of ‘ignorant loathing liberals’ when you get them into a room together to decide this stuff, eh?).
So what’s Macca’s problem? Well, he’s been a swinger. You know, he won’t come down for a re-write of the constitution and he’s left it up to the states. The god loving, gay hating, gun toting good folks of the US of A are gonna be coming down on him with their pitchforks if he doesn’t join them in sending all these sinners to hell.
Ain’t that just a pity for Macca, eh?
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/17/kennedy.hospital/index.html
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Robert Bollard
Somewhat ironic then, that the Gruffster’s main complaint towards me is that I don’t have anything relevant to say! LOL
For someone who’s posted almost nothing but childish dribble for weeks, that’s an astonishingly dumb thing to say…but one shouldn’t expect much in the way of self-reflection from the severely intellectually challenged.
On the electoral-vote.com map of Obama/McCain, it’s interesting to note that Obama in only 1% behind.
Now, given that this is May, and that Obama is not yet the nominee, that he DID NOT campaign in Florida, you’d have to assume that he could spend some time and money over the coming months to markedly improve his position.
Maybe he can forget the HillBilly Belt, the Appalachian banjo plunking, chicken plucking, mother…ah, forget that one, nigga lynching, confederate flag waving descendants of the bog Irish and highland Scots?
Florida Jews and Hispanics for Obama?
Stranger things have happened.
1% behind in FLORIDA
# 1330: B.S. Fairman Says: [The problem is the job is probably Clinton’s if she demands it (because she has 1500 delegates who will vote for her when it comes to the VP vote at the convention)] it’s good to see that there is someone else who also can see the REAL POLITIK of the DNC. Hillary will DECIDE who the VP is. Either herself or her nominee because she has 47% of the popular votes and 46% of the delegates. There has never been a Dem nomination contest that been this close between the last two candidates. Whether the Obamabots here like it or not, she is still a very powerful force in Dem politics and will be as powerful as the eventual winner.
the Obmabots also naively assumed that the VP is simply nominated by the winner and the DNC just rubber-stamped. It maybe in the past, but not this time. There will be two ballots, one for POTUS and one for VP, and the Hillary camp will fight all the way to Alaska.
There’s more, Obama needs Hillary and her supporters to win in November. He needs her more than she needs him. If he loses the POTUS in November, he will be condemned forever as the candidate who snatches defeat from the deep throat, not jaw, of Victory. The weight is on him. he better WINS.
The Dubya’s attack on Obama exposed the inexperience and naivety of Obama in foreign affairs. Why make yourself a bigger target than necessary by saying stupid things like that you will talk unconditionally to the presidents of Syria and Iran and Cuba. There are times where silence is golden, dont say anything even if you want to do it. Get into power first. By not saying anything then you do it, is not a lie. By saying you will do it and then back away, is a lie.
Have a good sunday to all. the sun is shining and beautiful, that’s more important.
a welcome if brief read on a sunday morning:
ttp://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-scoblic17-2008may17,0,6293795.story
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Yes, KR, no states are safe for the Republicans. Obama has come this far as a soloist. Soon the whole democratic party will be running with him. They can carry just about everything.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-scoblic17-2008may17,0,6293795.story
The article should interest you finn – it explains why talking is not appeasement, and cites some historic examples where negotiating has secured the peace and advanced security at the same time. Well worth a look.
JV-
I did see the dolphin – at Wilson’s Prom: very southerly, and very cold – no water sports for me, my friend.
Finns – that hole in your head is having quite an impact. Or maybe it was the trauma of a sharkbite, but are you seriously still saying Hillary will win the nomination??
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elitebutterfly, very good article showing the absurd debasement of history for propaganda purposes. This Orwellian process has plumbed the depths in the US, but you have to think the tide is beginning to turn.
Bush and his ‘appeasement’ argument are ludicrous examples of the dumbing down of American politics and the modus operandi of this inept and arrogant administration.
I watched Jon Stewart interviewing Rumsfeld’s undersecretary Douglas Feith, and it was impossible not to see which one was the adult and which the grovelling little yesman for an administration that was plainly overcome with delusions and bristling with beligerence to settle a score with Arabs. Any Arabs, Saddam will do.
Stewart pressed him on why the downside, the risks, were just glossed over, and why they worked to hard to make the connection to 911 but Feith just clearly cannot, ever, see what he’s been party to as a misleading of the American people (not to mention a war crime inflicted on the people of Iraq).
It really is time for the adults to take control.
Obama: You can have the VP or the $20m, but not both.
Any bets which way she’ll go on that one?
Clinton will definitely be in discussions about who she wants on the ticket. She may even be able to add several names to the shortlist. And any decision that Obama makes will be made with her and her supporters in mind. But the VP vetting process is incredibly extensive, and all possible permutations will be examined by Obama’s camp before anyone is given a final tick. To say that ‘Clinton get’s to choose the VP’ is incredibly naive.
As Obama inches towards less than 100 delegates left, what are the latest KY and OR polls
Pancho, youre right, of course Clinton will have a say and of course she should, she has gotten a significant no. of delegates. Making it sound like it’s her call is a final attempt for a graceful exit
I hope Obama doesn’t offer VP to Hillary, if he wants a woman in the job, why not one of the female governors, like Kathleen Sibilieus from Kansas?
I cant see Obama offering it to Hillary. It would be madness, and he is not the type
Andrew: Hillary well ahead in Kentucky(Obama isn’t bothering to campaign there), Obama has a good lead in OR
Rumour: Another big name will endorse Obama on May 21 – Gore?
Huckster’s ‘joke’ fell flat, and so does this:
Not long after he left the convention stage, he issued a statement saying, in part, “I made an offhand remark that was in no way intended to offend or disparage Sen. Obama. I apologize that my comments were offensive. That was never my intention.”
…yeah, he’d just thought putting Senator Obama and someone taking at him together as a kind of philosophical conjecture about the power of one, the supreme self-reliance of individual Americans to make lasting changes in the political landscape.
Huckleberry stood on his own grassy knoll and delivered his ‘joke’ that was not meant to be offensive.
Yeah, right.
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